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Yes I would. The article I am working on actually is about the BLR history, calibers and variations. The BPR is just extra. I have been researching the BLR for about a year and have close to 30 pages of typed notes. I am finding a lot of slightly confused information, especially concerning dates. I ...

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I am looking for a copy of an article that ran in the February 1998 American Rifleman magazine. It is a review of the Browning BPR 30-06. Hoping to find someone who has kept their copy. I am also interested in any other BPR "centerfire" articles and any on the BLR - covering all variations...

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I collected the Classic at one time and found the Original Winchester catalogs that have them included. They actually seemed to shoot better than the average 94 for me. I did recently see one that looked like first rate junk. The barrel had milling marks that can not be acurately described other tha...

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The Winchester Classic Model 94 that I am familiar with was made from 67-70 and came with an octagon barrel in two lengths. 20" for carbine and 26" for the rifle. The shot very good. IIRC Numrich's has/had replacement barrels.

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I asked the same question last month and the answers were that he moved out of state and we have lost contact w/ him.

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Winchester did make a model 94 carbine it called "Antique" from 67-70. It has some scroll work on the receiver and what I think was a liquid applied type of coloring to replicate case hardening. It is not very durable.

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Dr Walker, Wish you where in north Florida so that I could let you try a pistol grip BLR w/ a scope. I have the same problem with some brands, especially Remingtons. The Brownings have a different stock drop and they work out great for me w/ a scope. I use the Deadnutz one piece medium mounts w/ a s...

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Henry,

There is a rebored (was 7mm) now 338 BLR that has just showed up on Gun Broker.

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Paul, Tycer gave the answer to your question on the newer BLR's. Tycer, thanks for the clarification on the steel framed one's. I have been researching the history/changes/development of the BLR for almost a year and could not get that one question answered. I have found that there is a lot of incor...

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Scott,

It was just my southern english way of explaining things I do to a horn when I have too many files laying nearby.

It's kinda like, hey - I wonder what it would look like if I did this to it ?? Now that looks OK, what do I want to call it?

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Henry, The newer BLR's w/ an alloy type frame require the frame and barrel to be replaced together. The chamber of the barrel has the cut outs for the lugs on the bolt face (like an AR), not the receiver. I am trying to verify the older ones such as the ones you have. Some sources say they can be re...

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The exposed throat is the top one in the picture below.

I use a rough cut file to make a larger than normal ring in the throat area. Hope this explains it.

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Scott,

I have gone back and looked at all the posts and can not find the open throat comment.. Can you copy and paste the comment and I will explain.

Bruce

I am not having any trouble getting in to my account. Try logging out, then close out and start over - if you have not already tried that.

Bruce

There is no difference between the two and both are accurate. Do a search for BLR or Browning on this site and you can get a lot of information. I have two BLR takedowns and will probably get more.

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Sometimes a Stetson. Basically, I wear one of the Tilley hats (canadian made and excellent) 24/7. No ball cap - don't even own one.

Here is a link. http://www.tilley.com/home.asp?countryCode=US

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Has anyone heard from Duff lately?

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Well, I don't have that one. So please put me on the want list.

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One thing I did not cover is the use of fresh horn. That is one right off of the cow. The horn is over a core of bone and tissue. You need to seperate that core/tissue from the horn as soon as possible. You do not have to, but it will surely smell better if you do. You can leave it outside protected...

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Well, this is probably the final session on horn building. I will always be available for questions if you have any, or assistance if you should run into a problem or glitch. Anyone who wishes can copy and use this piece as you want. The good thing about working with horn is that you can really not ...

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OK, we have moved into the 50's here in north Florida and the wind is not blowing. Therfore, I can venture back out onto the back porch and continue the adventure. JFYI, I have spent way to many days working in the cold (retired Fish and Wildlife Lt. Col.) and I don't have to any more and besides th...

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Is that what you rich fellas call a truck gun?

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I forgot to add that your base pegs do not have to be wood. Many use brass tacks, nails etc.. I like wood because I can make them or just buy wood dowel stock of the size I want. I also stain and put a little sealer/finish on exposed/head portion before I use steel wool (OOO or OOOO) as the final bu...

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awp101, The base plug is permanant and is secured by the wood pegs through the horn. It is tapered about 80 degrees and is tapped in as far as it will go. I boil (water) the base of my horn just enough to make it a little soft, before I start the base plug in. It should be airtight once it is tapped...

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OK, you asked for it. Here is picture of some spouts. You can purchase the brass type from Track of The Wolf. The others are home made by me. One difference between blowing horns and powder horns is that you want the outside diameter of the tip (spout) to be much smaller on the powder horn. Don't ma...

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jumbeaux and Kirk, Thanks for the comments. I really enjoy working w/ horn. There are so many things you can do with it, just let the imagination go. If ya'll don't think the thread is too long, I can show some powder horn details while the weather is cold? The process is almost the same, except for...

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Well, lets go a little more into what horn can do. You have already seen the spoon/fork things. How about a little ear ring chest.

How about a key chain thingy.

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Next, we will cover scraping the horn to remove imperfections and to smooth up the surface. You can use the earlier described plate, a flat blade knife or anything similar. Put it on an angle like the picture and pull it towards you. You will feel the high/low spots and adapt very quickly. If you us...

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OK, it is way to cold and windy outside to do much horn work. Yes, I am whimping out. Let's cover a few minor details. Horns are left and right oriented - obviously. Meaning, they come off of the left and right side of the bovines head and they want to be carried that way if you so choose to carry t...

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This particular horn does not have enough dimeter at this location to allow for a good octagon pattern, so we have to come up with something else. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0081.jpg I marked it by free hand w/ a pencil and started a groove w/ the rough cut round file. htt...

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Most people do not know the proper way to blow a cow horn. Keep it tuned at an angle of about 10 or 2 o'clock to the center of your mouth and place it about 10 or 2 o'clock from the center of your lips. Think of Elvis' smile and put it where the lips curl to the side. http://i303.photobucket.com/alb...

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Now lets go back to the mouth piece. Remember the hole as the stone left it burned. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0069.jpg Stick the point of the drop blade knife down into the blowing hole and start the process of scraping the sides to make more of a funnel shape, rather tha...

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OK, how about a combination of those requests, with more to follow. First, there is the third ring. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0065.jpg Next is the dished ring. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0066.jpg Next we start the process of smoothing up the mou...

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Nothing wrong with any 30-30. A Marlin is a good, reliable and easy to maintain rifle. My choice is a BLR. There is a difference and it is not weight.

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Do you want it the same type as the other two? I can go bigger, smaller, dished or squared vs. half round.

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Next, we have some decisions to make. Should we put another ring in? http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0058.jpg Should we use a half round rough cut file and put a dish in? http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0060.jpg Should we use the edge of the rough cut file...

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For your first ring, you can use a ruler to make a uniform ring or you can use tape. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0049.jpg http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0050.jpg Use the rough cut round file to start with. You can go down about half the diameter of th...

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Next, use the counter sink drill bit to form the mouth piece. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0042.jpg It will have chatter marks inside. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0043.jpg You can use this stone to make more of a bowl and remove the chatter marks or...

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First question. Should I start another thread/post or just make this one long? Next step. Drill the 1/4" hole. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0039.jpg Put the shavings in your wife flower pot and she will love you. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_003...

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Thanks for the comments guys. To be honest, I am one of those who is not talented in the arts. I just start filing and let things work out. You will see what I mean on some of the following posts as I have no idea what design I am going to end up with on the project horn. Cimarron Red, great history...

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Next, you will need to drill or burn the blowing hole. Trust me, drill it as the smell of burning will run you off. Use about a 1/4" drill. You can go larger or smaller, but don't vary too much. Go straight down the center and make sure that you do not punch out of the side of the horn. Slow an...

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OK, let's get to horn selection. Here are three candidates. You have to consider length, diameter at the tip and depth of the core tip. Horns are hollow most of the way up, until you get near the tip. You need to leave enough of the solid tip to allow for the diameter of the mouth piece and the hole...

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For the big/bell end of the horn, I leave them natural or add a little flare like the one on the left. There was acutally a flaw there that I cut out. You can boil the horn for a little while and make it perfectly round by pressing it over a round form or you can make it oblong by pressing it from t...

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OK, I recommend that you buy horns that have been processed to start with. Here are a few good sources. http://www.trackofthewolf.com http://www.powderhornsandmore.com I use horns in the 10" range for powder horns. You can go bigger or smaller, this is just my preference. http://i303.photobucke...

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As you go through the process, always save the scrap parts and you can make buttons or powder measures such as this 90 grain BP example. http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn148/BruceHHH/101_0008.jpg You can also make neat things for the wife such as spoons, forks and combs. Let your imagination rul...

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Seems a few of our members want to know how to build a good old fashion cow horn blowing horn, so here it is. This will be a fluid type process and will take a week or so to complete, so please be patient w/ me. Nothing is written in stone in this process and there are short cuts and power tools tha...

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Pete,

I Florida, anyone (legal type) can purchase a long gun. Handguns are little more involved.

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And to think I was whining about it being 50 here in north Florida this morning. Why is he trying to mow the yard?

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Very honest wear. Hope all my BLR's last as long and have as good a history. Thanks for the post.

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I can not comment of the posts of others about a BLR failure to fire w/o a whole lot more information. I am familiar enough with the BLR mechanics to believe that it has nothing to do with the design or parts. Just my opinion. Even though it does have different internals as far as the lever system, ...

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