Crescent shaped butt plate
Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.
Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.
Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Crescent shaped butt plate
I have a Winchester M94AE. I would like to add a crescent shaped butt plate to the stock. Is this plausible? I have the skill to do the wood work. Blued steel is preferred.
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
You could try and rework one of these.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?c ... 132690&MC=
http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?c ... 315280&MC=
I can't remember which stock fit the newer 94's, but these should fit up to the 80's for sure.
Byron
http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?c ... 132690&MC=
http://www.e-gunparts.com/product.asp?c ... 315280&MC=
I can't remember which stock fit the newer 94's, but these should fit up to the 80's for sure.
Byron
- kimwcook
- Advanced Levergunner
- Posts: 7978
- Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:01 pm
- Location: Soap Lake, WA., U.S.A.
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
I'd try these guys: http://www.precisiongunstocks.com/index ... 646.415625
They even have the buttplate and they're reasonable. Might poll what experience the forum has with them re their quality and fit first. I don't have any information on that.
They even have the buttplate and they're reasonable. Might poll what experience the forum has with them re their quality and fit first. I don't have any information on that.
Old Law Dawg
-
- Member Emeritus
- Posts: 2277
- Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:22 pm
- Location: Crenshaw County, Alabama
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
I can't tell you how or where about buttplates, but I can tell you that I find crescent buttplates to be mighty uncomfortable to shoot.
John Killebrew had a Model 1873 in .45 Long Colt with a brass crescent buttplate. Jimmy Pilcher and I both christened it the Pitchfork Rifle because with John's heavy loads, the buttplate would stab us like a Pitchfork. John liked it though.
Be sure the buttplate fits your shoulder and that you know the proper way to hold a rifle equipped with a crescent buttplate. Good Luck!
John Killebrew had a Model 1873 in .45 Long Colt with a brass crescent buttplate. Jimmy Pilcher and I both christened it the Pitchfork Rifle because with John's heavy loads, the buttplate would stab us like a Pitchfork. John liked it though.
Be sure the buttplate fits your shoulder and that you know the proper way to hold a rifle equipped with a crescent buttplate. Good Luck!
Doc Hudson, OOF, IOFA, CSA, F&AM, SCV, NRA LIFE MEMBER, IDJRS #002, IDCT, King of Typoists
Amici familia ab lectio est


UNITE!
Amici familia ab lectio est



UNITE!
- Modoc ED
- Advanced Levergunner
- Posts: 3332
- Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:17 am
- Location: Northeast CA (Alturas, CA)
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
There's your problem Doc. A crescent butt plate is meant to be cradled on the upper-arm not the shoulder.Doc Hudson wrote:Be sure the buttplate fits your shoulder and that you know the proper way to hold a rifle equipped with a crescent buttplate. Good Luck!
Last edited by Modoc ED on Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:10 pm, edited 2 times in total.
- kimwcook
- Advanced Levergunner
- Posts: 7978
- Joined: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:01 pm
- Location: Soap Lake, WA., U.S.A.
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
KirkD had a great set of pictures showing the correct placement of a crescent buttstock to the arm. He might be gracious enough to post them again.
Old Law Dawg
- Buck Elliott
- Member Emeritus
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:15 pm
- Location: Halfway up Sheep Mountain -- Cody, Wyoming
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
Must have been SOME heavy loads in that '73, Doc...Doc Hudson wrote:I can't tell you how or where about buttplates, but I can tell you that I find crescent buttplates to be mighty uncomfortable to shoot.
John Killebrew had a Model 1873 in .45 Long Colt with a brass crescent buttplate. Jimmy Pilcher and I both christened it the Pitchfork Rifle because with John's heavy loads, the buttplate would stab us like a Pitchfork. John liked it though.
Be sure the buttplate fits your shoulder and that you know the proper way to hold a rifle equipped with a crescent buttplate. Good Luck!
My load throws 250 gr. LaserCast slugs at 1400 fps from my 24 1/4" '73, and it is not at all brutal -- not even uncomfortable -- just a rewarding buck & snort, and a very accurate combination to boot. Anything much heavier than that load is a real danger to the lockup in a '73, believe me.
Yes, you CAN load somewhat heavier than that, but only to the detriment of a fine rifle.
Regards
Buck
Life has a way of making the foreseeable that which never happens, and the unforeseeable, that which your life becomes...
Buck
Life has a way of making the foreseeable that which never happens, and the unforeseeable, that which your life becomes...
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
If you have inletting skills it may be some work, but it can be done. What you will run into is the difference in width and length between the plate and stock. It may require filing down the plate or narrowing the stock itself. Blank (in the white) crescent plates are available new or you can use an original. Originals will be pricey though.
- Griff
- Posting leader...
- Posts: 21236
- Joined: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:56 pm
- Location: OH MY GAWD they installed a STOP light!!!
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
Contact Midwest Gunworks and se if they have any more of USRA's left over stocks from the plant closing in 2006. They hada few as I bid on some, but was a little too cheap.
No inleting required. May be al gone, but worth a phone call.

Griff,
SASS/CMSA #93
NRA Patron
GUSA #93
There is a fine line between hobby & obsession!
AND... I'm over it!!
No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
SASS/CMSA #93
NRA Patron
GUSA #93
There is a fine line between hobby & obsession!
AND... I'm over it!!
No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
- O.S.O.K.
- Advanced Levergunner
- Posts: 5533
- Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:15 pm
- Location: Deep in the Piney Woods of Mississippi
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
I got a stock and buttplate (was precision brand IIRC) from Brownells. The stock was inlet on the front end for a pre-64 win 94. It was fit to a 1970 receiver - and for me, this was a booger - but I'm not a skilled woodworker. But I made it work anyway... the butt was almost spot on and only required a bit of fitting. The buttplate was in the white and needed to be finished - had the mould lines still on it, so I ground them off and sanded the whole thing, blued and drilled the mounting holes. Here's a few pics:


Here's one of it before I applied the bedding compound:

As you can see, the stock to receiver area gave me fits - but Its rock solid now and looks good to me. Before the bedding, the stock had a bit of "play" in the wrist to reciever - the stock bedding compound eliminated that and actually improved the accuracy of the rifle.
Here's one of it before I applied the bedding compound:
As you can see, the stock to receiver area gave me fits - but Its rock solid now and looks good to me. Before the bedding, the stock had a bit of "play" in the wrist to reciever - the stock bedding compound eliminated that and actually improved the accuracy of the rifle.
NRA Endowment Life
Phi Kappa Sigma, Alpha Phi 83 "Skulls"
OCS, 120th MP Battalion, MSSG
MOLON LABE!
Phi Kappa Sigma, Alpha Phi 83 "Skulls"
OCS, 120th MP Battalion, MSSG
MOLON LABE!
-
- Site Sponsor
- Posts: 2508
- Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:05 pm
- Location: Lampasas, Texas
- Contact:
Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
Hi Jake,jake565 wrote:I have a Winchester M94AE. I would like to add a crescent shaped butt plate to the stock. Is this plausible? I have the skill to do the wood work. Blued steel is preferred.
you do know, the carbine stocks are shorter but fatter at the plate than the rifle stocks. So if you cut in a cresent plate you will need to remove wood from the sides and metal from the new plate because it will be proud over the shorter wood.
Somewthing like this;

And easier project would be to use a Rossi Rifle stock with the plate already on it and inlett it to the 94. Up until WWII the 92's and 94's used the same wood so it's pretty close. Here's a 92 carbine with a cresent rifle stock.

Steve Young aka Nate Kiowa Jones Sass# 6765
Steve's Guns aka "Rossi 92 Specialists"
205 Antler lane
Lampasas, Texas 76550
http://www.stevesgunz.com
Email; steve@stevesgunz.com
Tel: 512-564-1015

Steve's Guns aka "Rossi 92 Specialists"
205 Antler lane
Lampasas, Texas 76550
http://www.stevesgunz.com
Email; steve@stevesgunz.com
Tel: 512-564-1015

Re: Crescent shaped butt plate
Nice Job! 
