OT - AR7

Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here ... politely.

Moderators: AmBraCol, Hobie

Forum rules
Welcome to the Leverguns.Com General Discussions Forum. This is a high-class place so act respectable. We discuss most anything here other than politics... politely.

Please post political post in the new Politics forum.
Post Reply
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 28672
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

OT - AR7

Post by Ysabel Kid »

Anyone have an old AR7, and if so, have you ever found any ammunition it actually likes?

Every few years I get the bug to take this out and shoot it again. Then it irriates the snot out of me jaming every other round. I have never found any ammunition that reliably feeds in the sucker. Any luck brothers?
Image
Rusty
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 9528
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:37 pm
Location: Central Fla

Re: OT - AR7

Post by Rusty »

Years ago when I was an FFL holder I got a really good deal on Jennings J-22's. I was passing the deal on to as many as I could. We found then that the best functioning ammo in them was that cheap dirty firing Federal Bulk pack stuff that a lot of people didn't like. I even had one guy complain that CCI mini mags kept jamming up in his gun. While he was standing there whining I loaded up a mag with the Federal stuff, then proceeded to rip them off non stop like an M-60. He said How'd you do that? I showed him the ammo box and he walked away shaking his head. Just try everything you can get your hands on.
If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-
Isiah 55:8&9

It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
salvo
Senior Levergunner
Posts: 1509
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:56 pm
Location: Vegas
Contact:

Re: OT - AR7

Post by salvo »

I have an Charter Arms AR7 I bought around 1976 shoots about anything I put in it. The feed lip angle on the magazine is the trick. Try wrapping electric tape around the magazine so it pushes the magazine away from the receiver making the feed angle steeper. If that helps feeding adjust the magazine lips so it feeds at the same angle without tape.
ScottS

Image

"No arsenal, no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women."
-- Ronald Reagan
fatoldfool
Levergunner 2.0
Posts: 163
Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:37 pm

Re: OT - AR7

Post by fatoldfool »

I bought a Charter AR7 about 1979 or 1980. After I tired of it I swapped it to a friend who still has it. It would/will eat anything with only an occasional fte. I don't think it has been cleaned since I owned it! It sits in the corner of his garage where he can grab it quick for use on varmints. It has been used to put several very ill or injured dogs and deer out of their pain. I have tried to get it back with no success.
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 28672
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Re: OT - AR7

Post by Ysabel Kid »

salvo wrote:I have an Charter Arms AR7 I bought around 1976 shoots about anything I put in it. The feed lip angle on the magazine is the trick. Try wrapping electric tape around the magazine so it pushes the magazine away from the receiver making the feed angle steeper. If that helps feeding adjust the magazine lips so it feeds at the same angle without tape.
Scott -

This sounds interesting - I'm going to try it, and also try Rusty's idea on bulk Federal bullets. I think I read somewhere that these guns prefer high-velocity loads, but not "hyper" velocity ones. Anyone recall that? Wouldn't wrapping the magazine with electrician's tape make it hard if not impossible to insert into the magazine well?

Thanks!!!
Image
User avatar
gamekeeper
Spambot Zapper
Posts: 18133
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:32 pm
Location: Third world Britain.

Re: OT - AR7

Post by gamekeeper »

Jay,
I ordered a new Henry AR7 several months ago, there were none in the UK at the time.
I'm still waiting for it to arrive, so I have been searching out all kinds of info on the net.
CCI mini mags seem popular and some folks use stingers but Henry don't advise any hyper velocity ammo, just ordinary HV. There are so many conflicting comments on the AR7, it's hard to know what to believe. I don't expect the AR7 to replace my 9422 but in the absence of any chance of hunting with a handgun in the UK :roll: , the AR7 is the next best thing for what I need. I will use CB longs for some pest control work but I know it will only function as a single shot with those and sub sonics.
If ever I get the darn thing I will post a range report. :wink:
Whatever you do always give 100%........... unless you are donating blood.
salvo
Senior Levergunner
Posts: 1509
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:56 pm
Location: Vegas
Contact:

Re: OT - AR7

Post by salvo »

Ysabel Kid wrote:
salvo wrote:I have an Charter Arms AR7 I bought around 1976 shoots about anything I put in it. The feed lip angle on the magazine is the trick. Try wrapping electric tape around the magazine so it pushes the magazine away from the receiver making the feed angle steeper. If that helps feeding adjust the magazine lips so it feeds at the same angle without tape.
Scott -

This sounds interesting - I'm going to try it, and also try Rusty's idea on bulk Federal bullets. I think I read somewhere that these guns prefer high-velocity loads, but not "hyper" velocity ones. Anyone recall that? Wouldn't wrapping the magazine with electrician's tape make it hard if not impossible to insert into the magazine well?

Thanks!!!
You just wrap the tape around the bottom of the magazine so it pushes the bottom of the magazine away from the receiver, that translates to a steeper feed angle at the top of the magazine. I still have one magazine that still has the tape on it after all these years, the tape will make it impossible to put the magazine in the butt stock compartment though.
ScottS

Image

"No arsenal, no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women."
-- Ronald Reagan
tomtex
Levergunner 2.0
Posts: 275
Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:01 pm
Location: lufkin tx

Re: OT - AR7

Post by tomtex »

I like the AR 7 after options and accessories are added to it, like folding stock and hand guard . just do a seacrh for
accessories for the AR7.
Last edited by tomtex on Fri May 28, 2010 7:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Rusty
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 9528
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:37 pm
Location: Central Fla

Re: OT - AR7

Post by Rusty »

Jay, I'm not saying that the Federal bulk packs will for sure be the answer to your problem. I'm just saying that you might be surprised at where you find the solution.
If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-
Isiah 55:8&9

It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
User avatar
jeepnik
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 7334
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:39 pm
Location: On the Beach

Re: OT - AR7

Post by jeepnik »

salvo wrote:I have an Charter Arms AR7 I bought around 1976 shoots about anything I put in it. The feed lip angle on the magazine is the trick. Try wrapping electric tape around the magazine so it pushes the magazine away from the receiver making the feed angle steeper. If that helps feeding adjust the magazine lips so it feeds at the same angle without tape.
Gotta go with Salvo on this one. I have a late 70's vintage CA AR-7. It doesn't seem to be to pick with regards to function. But it does like "Hi" speed long rifles better than hyper velocity (stingers and such), with regard to accuracy. Many a jack has fallen to it. Not to mention more than a few cottontails.
Jeepnik AKA "Old Eyes"
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 28672
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Re: OT - AR7

Post by Ysabel Kid »

slow2run wrote:I like the AR 7 after options and accessories are added to it, like folding stock and hand guard . just do a seacrh for
accessories for the AR7.
I've had a scope mounted on it before, as well as a collapsible stock. These were pretty cool, though they negated the use of the buttstock compartment. Would be better if I could ever get the darn thing to feed right!
Image
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 28672
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Re: OT - AR7

Post by Ysabel Kid »

Rusty wrote:Jay, I'm not saying that the Federal bulk packs will for sure be the answer to your problem. I'm just saying that you might be surprised at where you find the solution.
Just another excuse to buy more ammo! :wink: :D :lol:
Image
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 28672
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Re: OT - AR7

Post by Ysabel Kid »

game keeper wrote:Jay,
I ordered a new Henry AR7 several months ago, there were none in the UK at the time.
I'm still waiting for it to arrive, so I have been searching out all kinds of info on the net.
CCI mini mags seem popular and some folks use stingers but Henry don't advise any hyper velocity ammo, just ordinary HV. There are so many conflicting comments on the AR7, it's hard to know what to believe. I don't expect the AR7 to replace my 9422 but in the absence of any chance of hunting with a handgun in the UK :roll: , the AR7 is the next best thing for what I need. I will use CB longs for some pest control work but I know it will only function as a single shot with those and sub sonics.
If ever I get the darn thing I will post a range report. :wink:
John -

I'll be interested to hear how the new Henry ones work! Good luck!!! :D
Image
Hagler
Senior Levergunner
Posts: 1523
Joined: Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:52 am
Location: Leverland, U.S.A.
Contact:

Re: OT - AR7

Post by Hagler »

Jay,

Seeing as how you have one, maybe you could use this:

Image

Image

Shawn
"That's right, Billy, I'm good with it. I hit what I shoot at, and I'm fast!"-Lucas McCain, c1882.
ImageImage
User avatar
TedH
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 8363
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:19 pm
Location: Missouri

Re: OT - AR7

Post by TedH »

I always thought I'd like to have one of those to just keep under the seat of my truck. I'd bet if you tinker with the mag feed lips you'll be able to get it running smoothly.
NRA Life Member
tomtex
Levergunner 2.0
Posts: 275
Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:01 pm
Location: lufkin tx

Re: OT - AR7

Post by tomtex »

You can find AR7 accessories at www.ar-7.com
User avatar
jeepnik
Advanced Levergunner
Posts: 7334
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:39 pm
Location: On the Beach

Re: OT - AR7

Post by jeepnik »

TedH wrote:I always thought I'd like to have one of those to just keep under the seat of my truck. I'd bet if you tinker with the mag feed lips you'll be able to get it running smoothly.
I kept one in my Jeep for years. Never had to use it for anything serious, but it sure got a work out on jacks and general plinking. I've upgraded to the ultimate Jeep gun, as I have described previously. It now rides around in my work truck. Nice and leagal all broken apart and such.
Jeepnik AKA "Old Eyes"
"Go low, go slow and preferably in the dark" The old Sarge (he was maybe 24.
"Freedom is never more that a generation from extinction" Ronald Reagan
"Every man should have at least one good rifle and know how to use it" Dad
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 28672
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Re: OT - AR7

Post by Ysabel Kid »

Hagler wrote:Jay,

Seeing as how you have one, maybe you could use this:

Image

Image

Shawn
Thanks Hagler!!!
Image
User avatar
gamekeeper
Spambot Zapper
Posts: 18133
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:32 pm
Location: Third world Britain.

Re: OT - AR7

Post by gamekeeper »

Ysabel Kid wrote:
game keeper wrote:Jay,
I ordered a new Henry AR7 several months ago, there were none in the UK at the time.
I'm still waiting for it to arrive, so I have been searching out all kinds of info on the net.
CCI mini mags seem popular and some folks use stingers but Henry don't advise any hyper velocity ammo, just ordinary HV. There are so many conflicting comments on the AR7, it's hard to know what to believe. I don't expect the AR7 to replace my 9422 but in the absence of any chance of hunting with a handgun in the UK :roll: , the AR7 is the next best thing for what I need. I will use CB longs for some pest control work but I know it will only function as a single shot with those and sub sonics.
If ever I get the darn thing I will post a range report. :wink:
John -

I'll be interested to hear how the new Henry ones work! Good luck!!! :D
UPDATE, Finally got the Henry Survival Rifle, only to find the safety did not work, (I think it had been tinkered with when it was proofed over here)
Anyway it went back to the UK dealer and I had to change the details on my firearm certificate, which can take weeks, luckily the police returned my certificate in 5 days. :o
Today a replacement rifle came and my local dealer suggested that we take it to a nearby field and try it out. It performed without a hitch with CCI mini mags and Remington HV solids and boy does it spit 'em out fast!!
It did not however chamber any of the Hollow Point ammo we tried, which does not bother me as my 9422 has first call on my hunting ammo.
I'm quite pleased with the little rifle, it feels more solid than I thought it would and it seems well put together.
Whatever you do always give 100%........... unless you are donating blood.
User avatar
Ysabel Kid
Moderator
Posts: 28672
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm
Location: South Carolina, USA
Contact:

Re: OT - AR7

Post by Ysabel Kid »

Congrats John!!! :D
Image
Post Reply