can a .308 win be loaded down to the velocity of a 30-30?

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can a .308 win be loaded down to the velocity of a 30-30?

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Has anyone tried duplicating 30-30 ballistics in a .308 win?
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YEP. IT SURE CAN AND WE SURE HAVE.
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You can even take it on down to 30 carbine levels, or with some 22/30 sabots go into 220 swift country. :D
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The 308 Winchester is fast becoming my favorite cartridge. Middle of the road versatility.
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If memory serves me IMR SR4759 should work and has been recommended in the past in the various Speer manuals. 25grs should, I say should essentially duplicate the 150gr .30-30 velocities. Check the latest Speer data FIRST. Do not take my word for it. The info I am providing is purely conversational. Please check the Speer manual before proceding. Thanks, 1886.http://www.chuckhawks.com/reduced_recoil_reloads.htm Look at this web page. I do not know if 4759 is still available. Check 5744 aswell.
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Thanks for the info. I don't own a .308 yet.

The reason I ask is that a planned project of mine requires 30-30 ballistics, but I have no need for a 30-30 since my leverguns in .357, .44, and 45/70 cover pretty much all lever action niches. IMO, of course. A Remington pump in .308 might be in order for something a little different.
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Jason_W wrote:Thanks for the info. I don't own a .308 yet.

The reason I ask is that a planned project of mine requires 30-30 ballistics, but I have no need for a 30-30 since my leverguns in .357, .44, and 45/70 cover pretty much all lever action niches. IMO, of course. A Remington pump in .308 might be in order for something a little different.
The new Marlin 308 could keep you in a lever...... :idea:
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I use Federal Fusion Lites in my .308. It is a 170 grain bullet at 2000 fps. Exactly what you are talking about.
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BlaineG wrote:
Jason_W wrote:Thanks for the info. I don't own a .308 yet.

The reason I ask is that a planned project of mine requires 30-30 ballistics, but I have no need for a 30-30 since my leverguns in .357, .44, and 45/70 cover pretty much all lever action niches. IMO, of course. A Remington pump in .308 might be in order for something a little different.
The new Marlin 308 could keep you in a lever...... :idea:
True, but handloading options are more limited.
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Jason_W wrote:
BlaineG wrote:
Jason_W wrote:Thanks for the info. I don't own a .308 yet.

The reason I ask is that a planned project of mine requires 30-30 ballistics, but I have no need for a 30-30 since my leverguns in .357, .44, and 45/70 cover pretty much all lever action niches. IMO, of course. A Remington pump in .308 might be in order for something a little different.
The new Marlin 308 could keep you in a lever...... :idea:
True, but handloading options are more limited.
Why do you think so? Well, I guess, if you need pointy bullets.....
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BlaineG wrote:
Jason_W wrote:
BlaineG wrote:
Jason_W wrote:Thanks for the info. I don't own a .308 yet.

The reason I ask is that a planned project of mine requires 30-30 ballistics, but I have no need for a 30-30 since my leverguns in .357, .44, and 45/70 cover pretty much all lever action niches. IMO, of course. A Remington pump in .308 might be in order for something a little different.
The new Marlin 308 could keep you in a lever...... :idea:
True, but handloading options are more limited.
Why do you think so? Well, I guess, if you need pointy bullets.....
Probably won't need 'em, but it would be nice to use them if I want to. It is an idea.

I wonder what the chances of the cartridge going obsolete are?
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BlaineG wrote: Why do you think so? Well, I guess, if you need pointy bullets.....
The neat thing about a BLR, Savage 99 or Win 88 in 308, a reloader can use pointy or flat bullets, and make a 165 gr bullet do things the mx can only dream about :lol: No special burnrate powders or proprietary loading proceedures neede. :D
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I did it for my 30-06. Easy with the .308.
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Toned my 06 BLR down to a cat fanny burp...er sneeze, but I have other guns that shoot lesser loads so I'll leave my 06 alone to do what it was meant to. :?
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Speer #13 has reduced loads in the 308 that are at 30-30 levels.

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Jason_W wrote:Thanks for the info. I don't own a .308 yet.

The reason I ask is that a planned project of mine requires 30-30 ballistics, but I have no need for a 30-30 since my leverguns in .357, .44, and 45/70 cover pretty much all lever action niches. IMO, of course. A Remington pump in .308 might be in order for something a little different.

You might want to rethink your needs,cause the 30/30 has more energy at 100 yards than the .44Rem Mag has at the muzzel(the .357 is animic)and the 45/70 is your best bet!

you could get a lever 99 in .308Win (that would really fill the empty spot you have now).

I like every gun made just some more than others,it's a selective type thing(good luck)!

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bobbyjack wrote:
Jason_W wrote:Thanks for the info. I don't own a .308 yet.

The reason I ask is that a planned project of mine requires 30-30 ballistics, but I have no need for a 30-30 since my leverguns in .357, .44, and 45/70 cover pretty much all lever action niches. IMO, of course. A Remington pump in .308 might be in order for something a little different.

You might want to rethink your needs,cause the 30/30 has more energy at 100 yards than the .44Rem Mag has at the muzzel(the .357 is animic)and the 45/70 is your best bet!

you could get a lever 99 in .308Win (that would really fill the empty spot you have now).

I like every gun made just some more than others,it's a selective type thing(good luck)!

Bob :wink:
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