Israeli carry

[4t5]

Anyone use this method ?

[wvfarrier]

Not seeing anything

[JimT]

Only until I get my pants on.
Then it's cocked and locked.

[AJMD429]

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What's 'Israeli Carry'...???

[Bruce Scott]

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What's 'Israeli Carry'...???

Empty chamber with a loaded magazine in the grip.

[4t5]

https://www.wearethemighty.com/tactical ... condition/
I’m pocket carrying a bodyguard 2.0 and been using this method , for it’s inherent safety , mostly because of the sig sauer fiasco .

[Scott Tschirhart]

I thought it might be overkill to hire an Israeli to carry your pistol for you.

But now that I know your definition…. No.

[piller]

Even though any safety might malfunction, I have a Taurus which I carry most of the time. It has been reliable. My other Carry gun for when I need a smaller gon is a Kel Tec.

[Steve in MO]

Israeli carry is dangerous and outdated. No one teaches it, no one advocates for it. If I need my gun, I need it loaded right now, not trying to load it while my non-gun hand is tied up with a child, pushing my spouse out of the way, or fighting a bad guy who just attacked me. In teaching many Force on Force classes, I never saw anyone able to draw, chamber a round and fire before the attacker reached them, and that was with knowing the attacker was coming after them. By surprise and under stress? Not gonna happen.

[4t5]

Not having a firearm is dangerous , everything else less so.

[AJMD429]

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When we were just building our house and had toddlers and babies crawling all over the place and no separate bedroom yet, although I had a gun safe, I would keep my carry gun at that time in that manner figuring a child under the age of six would have an incredibly hard time chambering a 1911. In order to avoid chambering and re chambering and all that When I'd go to work I did take the shortcut of carrying all the time and what I guess would be called condition three in that format I think.

After seeing cases where people were attacked and didn't have two hands free to chamber their gun I changed my mind, and I got a rapid access gun safe to deal with the problem of child access.

[Griff]

When I was in the Navy, I stood in-port quarter deck watches, the 1911 was holster, full mag inserted, nothing in the chamber. This was in a standard military full flap holster. IOW: condition 3. The only time I had problem was a drunk sailor who threatened me by coming at me in a karate fighting stance from about 15 feet away. The gun was in my hand, cocked & locked before he finished his first step. Incident went no further. Adrenaline is your friend.

[765x53]

So, the same as U.S. Army carry?

[Bob Hatfield]

If you ever watch those Israeli soldiers draw a Glock and chamber a round and fire, you'd think it was Jerry Miculek they do it so fast. I'm sure they practiced till the cows (camels) came home.

The only kind of auto I would carry with an empty chamber is one without a safety (like a Glock) if I didn't have a holster. Plus, it would have to be an "easy chambering" auto. Glock 17's chamber easy for me. My Glock 43X not so much. 1911's don't chamber easy for me at all. I couldn't see the need in carrying a single'/double action auto with an empty chamber.

[jeepnik]

So, the same as U.S. Army carry?

Well, there's the way the manual says, and then there's the way it's actually done. I worked with a pilot who insisted all firearms be cleared (that also meant no mag). It's amazing how rapidly he changed his mind.