reduced loads for hunting deer

[milboltnut]

Hey fellers
Got a nice mild load for one of my pump rifles. .30-06 180 grain Remington RNSPCL on top of 30 grains of IMR 4198. Sound good for short range for deer ? I'm sure there will be plenty of penetration and expansion 100 yards or less. Ant one hunt with this type of load for deer ?

[Scott Tschirhart]

While I don’t know what kind of velocity that load might generate, I know several guys who load their .30-06 down to .30-30 levels so that their kids can shoot deer without the heavier recoil.

Makes good sense to me.

[41Redhawk]

While I don’t know what kind of velocity that load might generate, I know several guys who load their .30-06 down to .30-30 levels so that their kids can shoot deer without the heavier recoil.

Makes good sense to me.

I might would use 30/30 bullets to do that however. 30 caliber bullets for the 06 might be a bit too hard for those velocities.......Just a thought

[marlinman93]

While I don’t know what kind of velocity that load might generate, I know several guys who load their .30-06 down to .30-30 levels so that their kids can shoot deer without the heavier recoil.

Makes good sense to me.

I might would use 30/30 bullets to do that however. 30 caliber bullets for the 06 might be a bit too hard for those velocities.......Just a thought

Since both use the same bullet diameter, why would it matter if the bullets were pushed down the bore of a .30-30 or a .30-06 at equal velocities?
The 30.0 gr. charge of 4198 is going to likely be around 2000 fps or slightly over, so no reason a soft tip or flat nose like a .30-30 uses wont penetrate and expand well. Regardless of which case propelled it.

[ywaltzucanrknrl]

I use 190 Hornady Sub-X's in a 30-40 Krag SRC and in a 1889 Schmid Rubin 7.5 that run around 1900 fps. I've shot several deer and antelope with them and had great performance.

I could load the 30-40 up a bit, but the 1889 action is weak and around 1900 is a good load for it. The are both pleasant to shoot with those loads and accurate.

[milboltnut]

While I don’t know what kind of velocity that load might generate, I know several guys who load their .30-06 down to .30-30 levels so that their kids can shoot deer without the heavier recoil.

Makes good sense to me.

I might would use 30/30 bullets to do that however. 30 caliber bullets for the 06 might be a bit too hard for those velocities.......Just a thought

under a 100 yards I think it's fine. Brush hunting, most likely 30-50 yards. Be different if I took it out past 100 yards. Mostly off hand shooting, that's why I dropped it down some. If I knew I was shooting 100 yds or farther, I would use a standard load.

If at 200 yards @ 2K FPS will do the job, why would it do the job at 100yds or less ?

[Scott Tschirhart]

A whitetail isn’t that hard to kill. Last year I took my buck with a .45 Colt load that is safe in a Single Action Army.

You just have to punch a hole through them in the right place. If it’s accurate, you can certainly do the job.

[milboltnut]

A whitetail isn’t that hard to kill. Last year I took my buck with a .45 Colt load that is safe in a Single Action Army.

You just have to punch a hole through them in the right place. If it’s accurate, you can certainly do the job.

For sure !

[Lastmohecken]

I have been thinking about the same concept, but in my case, I have a Remington 700 in 300 win mag, that I would like to load down to .308 levels for deer hunting. I don't need all of that noise or recoil of the 300 mag, but I like that rifle and scope combo for some of deer hunting. I know I can do it, just haven't got around to it yet.

[Ray]

I have been thinking about the same concept, but in my case, I have a Remington 700 in 300 win mag, that I would like to load down to .308 levels for deer hunting. I don't need all of that noise or recoil of the 300 mag, but I like that rifle and scope combo for some of deer hunting. I know I can do it, just haven't got around to it yet.

The bad news is the ideal for this application imr 4198 runs about $70 per pound. The good news is it greatly simplifies ciphering the per charge cost what with there being 7000 grains to the pound.....

[samsi]

One of my favorite knockabout rifles is a 7.62 chambered Spanish 1916 Short Rifle that I load to around 40k cup. 40 grains of 3031, Varget or RL15 are all in that ballpark and give 2500-ish for velocity with my dwindling stash of 150 CorLokts. Sadly 3031 is the least accurate but most available powder these days. I look at it as being sort of a 30-30AI thing.

[milboltnut]

No snow opening day tomorrow ugh!

Sunday 1inch Tuesday 1 inch, if it sticks we should be in good shape.

[Lastmohecken]

I have been thinking about the same concept, but in my case, I have a Remington 700 in 300 win mag, that I would like to load down to .308 levels for deer hunting. I don't need all of that noise or recoil of the 300 mag, but I like that rifle and scope combo for some of deer hunting. I know I can do it, just haven't got around to it yet.

The bad news is the ideal for this application imr 4198 runs about $70 per pound. The good news is it greatly simplifies ciphering the per charge cost what with there being 7000 grains to the pound.....

I guess that's a penny per grain. I guess that's not too bad. I need to get off of my butt and work up some loads.

[piller]

I loaded down a few 30-06 for pillher several years ago. I stuffed a ball of tightly rolled dacron on top of the powder to hold it in place. It was milder than her 3030. Accuracy was nice. Shooting at 100 yards, it grouped 5 in a circle that were all touching, but 1/2 inch lower than it grouped with standard velocity. Each shot blew pillow stuffing everywhere. Funny, but the bore stayed clean.