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I can't wing shoot worth a hoot but the fella instructing me could. Surprised what the little 410 can do busting clays. Also introduced to a heavy load of 3/4 of shot, which is pretty much a 20ga payload. It was no.5 birdshot and based on what it did to some pine boards apart from good pest defence ...

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GunnyMack wrote: ↑Fri Aug 22, 2025 4:37 am At the time I was using the .429s.

Ok thanks GunnyMack.

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A fairly simple and inexpensive way to test bullet expansion in water. Buy a couple of cheap laundry baskets (~$3.50 @ Walmart) and a couple of 6x8 poly tarps (~$5.00 at Walmart), line the baskets with the tarps, fill with water and shoot away. https://i.imgur.com/9FVu70jl.jpg You can fold the tarp...

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I also used the XTPs in sabots with various.50 cal muzzle loaders. It wasn't real impressive. I then tried the Remington 240 semi jacket hollow points and they really blew up! I realized a 240 wasn't really needed for our 120lbs deer so I tried Remington 180s and deer hit were like they had been po...

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Thanks gunnymack, yes Ive found the 240 grain XTP works at lever action speed. I know fellas running them in 444 marlin and while its hard on the bullet they still swear by it for hogs and deer. Some of the 444 crew are a certain breed though, they like DRT and dont mind blasting big holes. I had re...

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Thanks fellas, I should have specified these are loads in the Rossi 92. I just found Brian pearces article , has 44 Special +P going up to 17 grains with 2400 powder and 240 jacketed, and it says its a 25,000 PSI load. https://www.handloadermagazine.com/44-s-w-special-p Im guessing it will get me to...

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So I tested 13 types of 44 factory ammo over a couple years and had it posted in different places on the net. Thought I would put it here too. Gun is a 20" Rossi 92, Prochrono chrony at 5 yards from the muzzle. I only shot 3 shot strings and didnt calculate ES etc, Some things I noted. Firstly ...

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Actually anyone know how much 2400 powder you can run in 44 special brass and a 240 jacketed? I know there was data out there on this..

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Okay so I loaded and chronied some bullets in 44 special starline brass. Some interesting results and good news is I found some velocities I want to test the 240 grain XTP with. 2400 powder behind the 240 XTP in 44 special starline brass( from 20" rossi R92 barrel) 12.0 grains. 943, 948, 937fps...

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I see they have locked up the wife of a politician who made comments online that they should just torch immigration hotels over there. She works in childcare for a living. She got 31 months prison for those comments and is currently serving as we speak. Apparently they moved her from general populat...

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in this vid they use a single barrel 410 with .387 full choke and run full house 444 marlin and 454 Casull through it. The casull load is estimated to be 55,000PSI and its a jacketed bullet and its fired into water jugs where the bullet fragments so the inference is the gun is taking a decent amount...

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Not my video nor recommendation, but if you were desperate or starving I guess. The fella hits a silhouette target he says is 50 yards too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX9F2m6DZzc Have seen similar vids of fellas using 44mag in 410ga as well. Al most tempted to buy an old Stevens or boito break ...

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I see they have those hotels full of illegal immigrants running amok in towns across the country. Their old folk cant afford heating yet they put illegals into the best hotels and charge it to taxpayers. Rape including of kids has gone through the roof and people are rioting against it at the moment...

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great photos and input there fellas. I cant fault hardcast hunters but for pig and regular deer JHP have always served me well. I dont mind plugging them past 100yards either if the situation requires. Longest shot about 130 yards with a bushnell red dot, about as far as Im good for without a scope....

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I shot a rather large pig with a 300gr xtp, about 15-20 yards. The bullet completely penetrated , the exit hole was approximately .75" . The shot was skin,ribs, oranges, ribs and skin, both gristle plates were completely ignored by the bullet. I don't remember the load, velocity but it was sho...

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Double post, having some strange delays trying to post on the site currently

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Not sure I get the joke there, too old I guess. I see the term used a lot. But thanks for the input on the 1400fps load.

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For something to do, Im going to set up one of the late Paul Harrel style 'meat targets' and see how low well the 240gn XTP expands including at low speed. The 'meat target' is a a bundle of leather, pork and ribs, oranges( for lung tissue) , same layers on the back side, and fleece layers to catch ...

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Im Australian by birth and moved back for an elderly relative. The above is correct, thats for just one of Australias states , Victoria, not the rest of the country. I'm not suprised by anything that goes on any more after watching the world lock down over a virus that is 3x less likely to kill some...

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Im going to try this out when I have time with the Rossi 92 in 44 mag.

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Found it , can't paste link for some reason but it's called Marlin 1894 lever action vs tactical carbine course, channel owner is hrfunk

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Fellas does this ring a bell, I seem to recall it might have been a fella here or maybe over at thehighroad. Anyhow vid on YouTube was him passing some police tactical test for semi auto rifles using his lever action. It was a good video to watch. Have been trying to find it again but cannot.

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Has anyone tried this bullet in their rifles fellas? I was considering getting the mold for bigger game. Not sure if the Rossi 1:30 twist will like it, Im thinking at rifle speeds it should shoot okay? I'll admit up front I'd be looking to run heavy loads, N110 and Lilgun powder with whatever max CO...

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I'll contribute too if things ever change

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Two 92's, original and a Rossi. This fella gets a pass

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I'm a fan of slow 44 cal slugs as I hunt with subsonics and low power in the 1250fps range but also at full stretch, 1700-1800fps with jacketed and killing hogs the latter is superior. I don't want two holes shooting a few hogs or a mob, I just want them falling over fast to get into the next one an...

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Wondering if Brian Austin might still frequent these forums or if anyone else would know. Load data to duplicate the old 44-40 hi power loads which I recall was with 200grsin bullets. I recall Brian I think saying the originals could still be loaded with jacketed but not sure if there was a proviso ...

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I had good luck running sub magnum loads in 44 mag rossis, including 44 special brass into the hotter range. eg 200-240 grain jacketed bullets to 1500-1600fps. The special brass in particular allowed me to load 11-12 in a 20" barrel. I had always 'heard' the 454 casull may not tolerate loading ...

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Fellas whats available these days. Im guessing the RSRH, Taurus and is the Bisley superblackhawk single action still on the market?

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When did they sneak this into production or have I been asleep the whole time Ive owned Rossi's. Im assuming its the same action as their 30-30. 1:12 twist as well,wow, well I guess that solves all the complaints about the usual 1:30 twist in their rifles. https://rossiusa.com/product/rifles/lever-a...

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I'll find the numbers and see if I have a pic or two. My house is gettings its floors sanded or I would pull out the cartridges themselves. I sold my 357's but still have some of the dummies I used for testing the action.

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Another thread with Buck commenting that all the Rossi's he had handled by 2008, being a couple dozen, had reciever stretching and widening occurring, possibly towards a separation....interesting. https://www.levergunscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?t=12008&start=50 Steve Jones remarks in 2014 that ...

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Found Buck Elliots tests on another forum. Maybe its here on this one as well? This was the info I recalled where they ran marlin 94's with 454 and it was having problems within a few shots. Very good read. https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?6998-Buck-Elliot-s-454-Casull-levergun-test-P...

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I find there are differences between Win 92 designs and to be honest rifles of the same brand too. Even have variances between my own Rossis as to what COAL they like. ... Of my 6 rossis all liked shorter specials except one. Two of my Rossi 357's in fact ran 38pecials real short, almost wadcutters,...

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Any point of the above fellas from a practical point of view( cough cough as if there is any such thing) but you get what I mean. Does the 480 in a Rossi offer anything the casull doesnt? Looks to be similar for hog thumping just a bigger PIA for bullet choices. Reason I ask is I know someone lookin...

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The virus hit rich countries, particularly the US the hardest. It sure likes money, and it got it

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I'll be doing some load testing soon and will post the results here. The three magnum pistol powders I have on hand are lilgun, N110 and 2400 and expecting that to be the order of power levels also. Just testing the 300gn XTP( non mag version) at this stage and maybe some 240 gn XTP mag if I can fin...

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Thanks fellas, hmmm rossi's seemed to be less likely to feed than some of the others but I might try them anyway

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Anyone tried this and got any sort of acceptable feeding? I saw a bag of schofield brass for sale and was considering giving it a try in my 454 R92. Not a lot of posts about it on the internet, so I am 'guessing' its not as easy as 44 special in a 44 mag.

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I only have 5 long arms and 3 are levers so thats 3/5. One is a 223 bolt action I am holding for my brother so I'll be back to 3/4 shortly.

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Sadly the Magna Carta has been ignored by generations of British politicians and forgotten by generations of the British public.... :( we now have a dictator as prime minister who has virtually stopped free speech. All I can say is "keep yer powder dry". Id say you have a puppet, not a di...

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While its good to make money off a sale sometimes its satisfying to see who it goes to. I recently sold off 2 x 357 Rossi 92, one to a mobile butcher who wanted to move up from killing animals with his 22LR. Another fella ran a 44 mag marlin as his main hog hunting gun and wanted something a bit sma...

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Doc, yes the rail is rossis one with peep built into it. When it appeared not to sit well he tried another aftermarket rail which is pre drilled for the latest rossi's. Nope as well. Not sure if rossi does one just for the 454 profile. The gunsmith is pretty good, Im not, I can barely describe the w...

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Just resurrecting this thread Tutt as it was such a great read. It was interesting to hear NKJ mention that the first three years of Rossi 454's had the early production run issues and they sorted a lot of it out by 2005. I was trying to find another thread where testing was done in the 80's I think...

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I have a 96/22 LR, great little gun. outshot my CZ452 with the hugh velocity ammo I like so I sold the CZ

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Well interestingly the gunsmith had a look at my gun to install for me a Rossi made pic rail, which I typically bubbarize my Rossis with. He said the taper from the reciever is different from normal R92's which tend to have more of a straight taper. The casull tapers suddenly near the reciever he sa...

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I've owned 3 X 357, 2x 44mag and now a 454 casull. Rossis can be rough out of the box but also rough diamonds. Smoothed up and tweaked you have one iof the lightest strongest lever actions and they tend to shoot well. One of mine was very rough, mag tube had a bevel in it, sharp load gate was scratc...

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. Years later I saved and traded and wound up with the BHA I now have, but I think you'll likely find the bolt action in 500 S&W will be kind of like having a Ruger 77/44 in 44 Mag - yeah it is a fun and good levergun cartridge, but can certainly be implemented well in a bolt action. yup Ruger ...

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