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While its good to make money off a sale sometimes its satisfying to see who it goes to. I recently sold off 2 x 357 Rossi 92, one to a mobile butcher who wanted to move up from killing animals with his 22LR. Another fella ran a 44 mag marlin as his main hog hunting gun and wanted something a bit sma...

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Doc, yes the rail is rossis one with peep built into it. When it appeared not to sit well he tried another aftermarket rail which is pre drilled for the latest rossi's. Nope as well. Not sure if rossi does one just for the 454 profile. The gunsmith is pretty good, Im not, I can barely describe the w...

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Just resurrecting this thread Tutt as it was such a great read. It was interesting to hear NKJ mention that the first three years of Rossi 454's had the early production run issues and they sorted a lot of it out by 2005. I was trying to find another thread where testing was done in the 80's I think...

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I have a 96/22 LR, great little gun. outshot my CZ452 with the hugh velocity ammo I like so I sold the CZ

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Well interestingly the gunsmith had a look at my gun to install for me a Rossi made pic rail, which I typically bubbarize my Rossis with. He said the taper from the reciever is different from normal R92's which tend to have more of a straight taper. The casull tapers suddenly near the reciever he sa...

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I've owned 3 X 357, 2x 44mag and now a 454 casull. Rossis can be rough out of the box but also rough diamonds. Smoothed up and tweaked you have one iof the lightest strongest lever actions and they tend to shoot well. One of mine was very rough, mag tube had a bevel in it, sharp load gate was scratc...

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. Years later I saved and traded and wound up with the BHA I now have, but I think you'll likely find the bolt action in 500 S&W will be kind of like having a Ruger 77/44 in 44 Mag - yeah it is a fun and good levergun cartridge, but can certainly be implemented well in a bolt action. yup Ruger ...

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That ought to provide as much punch at both ends as you could possibly want. I will confess that out of a 10-pound rolling block sporter chambered in .50-70 and a compressed load of No. 2 Swiss under a 625-grain Creedmoor bullet from a Buffalo Arms mold, the recoil was borderline unpleasant. Not su...

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Somewhat of an oddball this one, Winchester XPR which apparently started life as a 270WSM and wears a stainless steel barrel. Should arrive next week. Im not sure how it will do, previous owner says it feeds fine outta that little mag and he took deer. I admit I took a bit of a plunge with this one,...

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Of those choices Doc, 454 Casull Rossi. I own one in 20" as I wanted decent power in a small rifle for anywhere. A win 92 scabbards better on horseback, bike or ATV and can be pulled out from behind a seat etc about as fast as any firearm in existence, save a pistol. It draws almost like a swor...

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Thanks, I did not realise it was that recent.

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What action and when was it fellas?

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I shot most my hogs with 357 158grain xtp and 44mag 240xtp. The latter will kill any hog that walks. Large deer species are tougher than hogs in my opinion. I also used subsonic 357 and 44 bullets on hogs and 22wmr believe it or not but in those cases it was short range over baits, small to medium s...

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Thats a good one

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i shot at a pig in close cover with a SXS 12ga and 1 oz slugs and missed. Slug literally bounced off a hardwood tree about 20 yards to the front of me and buzzed back over my head. Not sure if glasses would have helped of that hit, but yeah I double up on the ears and protect eyes for any load devel...

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Prayers sent including a word on the good deed you did. Palliative care of another, selfless behaviour of the first order,

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Im steering clear of anything new myself. Got a buddy, a real big strong guy or was, now almost crippled by the second covid jab. he had a multi-millionaire dollar building business. First jab made him sick, dizzy, fainting spells for a time. Second jab, same thing, but the symptoms never went away....

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Nice buy with that 44. I've owned 6 Rossi 92s, two in 44 mag. That 200gn gdhp is designed for the 44 special and is a great home defence bullet. It's one of the few jacketed bullets that expands well subsonic, opens to 65cal+ under 900fps impact and just be aware fragments before 1300. I used them f...

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i eat mostly a caveman diet which keeps me at about 235 vs 260 on carbs. Also I dont have the continual carbs craving while Im on the diet. Also, not sure if anyone has noticed, but humans looked so different phyiscally in past decades. Look at ads from the 70's or 80's, smaller physiques. Even thei...

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Have since learned that most reloading data, in fact all I can find, Hoddgon, Vihtavouri, Alliant, ADI, barnes etc all specify small rifle, not magnum.

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I always wondered whether anyone has ever paid a visit to Rossi or corresponded as in directly with the factories or engineers in South America. Cant recall any posts on the internet about it. If I ever was in South America its somewhere I would consider checking out. A buddy of mine just visited In...

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Was just thinking re WFN functioning in a lever action. My other Rossis which included 357 and 44mag cycled JSP bullets seated backwards, just for a function test. Thats a calibre wide meplat. Not sure what the issue would be with a 454 WFN therefore. Maybe the issue is it would bang the edge of the...

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Fellas any suggestions on a heavy wide meplat cast that will still function through a lever. I was thinking of 340grains maximum, and as flat as might still feed

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Congrats on your new purchase. I have a Freedom Arms 454 and really had to use a Redding profile crimp die as a roll crimped shell wouldn’t chamber in the revolver’s cylinder. Tolerances are very tight in FA revolvers. You may not have an issue in a rifle. A bullet that has a hard core and is very ...

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Ya know mickbr, those fellows loading for revolvers have to have a powerful crimp to keep the bullet from jumping the crimp in the revolver and locking up the cylinder. Your Rossi lever has no such issues. You have got a bunch of poor advice from the revolver guys. Use just enough "crimp"...

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Just got word back from hornady themselves. They said the pressure issues related to soft jacketed bullets in revolvers when the bullet goes from the cylinder to the forcing cone. They said levers should be okay but said err on the side of caution as they do not have specific data for leverguns on t...

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Actually I read warnings online quoting Hornady that the highest pressures in the 454 casull may cause dangerous pressure spikes with the thinner jackets and bases of the 250xtp and 300xt regular jackets. Due to some effect of base deformation, bulging and excess obturation. Sscond hand info, some g...

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Thanks Tutt, I saw this test on the 300 XTP-Mag,. Below was 1444fps impact, might even need another 100fps-150fps by the looks to really expand. Thats a water news print test btw if I recall, real game may provide better results. Will still kill fine no doubt, but yeah thats a tough bullet. Well I c...

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So Im liking the looks of the regular 300XTP. Saw a youtube test showing some minor expansion as low as 940fps, nice expansion at 1260fps impact and very expanded but still not fragmenting at 2000fps! Thats an impressive expansion envelope, will handle all my shooting from low power to high. I wont ...

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. When I start reloading for the 454, it will be only for the Rossi, as I have no revolvers bigger/hotter than 44 Magnum and 45 Colt Redhawks and Blackhawks. However the little 16" Rossi in 454 Casull would likely be my choice as totin' gun in grizzly country, should I ever venture there - it ...

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Something I forgot to ask fellas. Whats the verdict on small rifle versus small rifle magnum primers. As mentioned Im using N110 so not as heavy as H110. Should a small rifle primer set that off? I have a lot from 223 use, would be good. But will buy magnum if I have to

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No small amount of wisdom in your posts there Grizz. I think with a 454 a lot is about power in small package, but also macho factor of owning the pistol cartridge that can run 60KPSI. How much of that horsepower is needed or used is another story. For me it will be my 'big gun', that and 3" 12...

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Mickbr, the Redding Profile die is one of only two dies I would use for heavy revolver loads like 454 Casull etc (the other being the Lee FCD of course). Not seen any problems with modern brass in 454 Casull and any reputable company should do like Starline or Hornady. Your powder choice is fine. L...

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Toasting as well . My father died last year but I wasnt told until a month after, we had only met three times in our lives. My grandfather though I was very close to, he died at age 100 September last year.

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stay positive, do all the P.T, dont over eat or over drink. All the fastest comebacks I saw made in the army, and this included vertebra injuries it was the fellas who stayed active and kept close to the original weight or even lost weight that did the best. It was like night and day. Even guys who ...

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So I got me a Lee 3 die set, then let some forum folks over at ruger.net talked me into the redding profile crimp die instead of the regular factory crimp die I was adding. Not sure if I wasted money there but anyway. Starline brass, 300XTP bullets, N110 powder which I believe is a little faster tha...

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When I first read parts of the Bible as a child I was fascinated by the stories. I've always loved history and let's face it, the Bible stories are history stories. The language was a bit tough at first but one learns. I read and re-read a big illustrated kids version of the bible growing up. It wa...

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I know quite a few guys happy with their tikkas

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is the 480 more powerful than the 454? I have a 454 casull that all I have fired in it has been 45 colt. I have two pistols in 45 colt is the reason I ordered it. I also have one in 38/357 mag, to go with my Ruger security six. Both of these are stainless steel, the 38/357 with 16 inch barrel, and ...

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I guess since we're going down this rabbit hole might as well include Big Horn Armory model 89 modified and beefed up 1892 with 1886 loading port . Billet 17-4 PH chambered in 454 casull and 500 Linbaugh and 500 S&W Chiappa got back with me and their 1892 is made from barstock or as they put it...

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Curiosity, but also tied in with my other thread on a Rossi 480 conversion, considering the best donor being the 480's higher pressures. Just emailed Steve on that note. He said its doable on a Rossi, also said a slightly larger OD barrel would avoid one of the original issues which was the front si...

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I was including all of the 92's I could think of fellas. But I admit I didnt know the Rossi 454( and Id assume also the 480?) had a different composition or treatment so thats interesting information there.

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Name your price Trailboss, PM me. Just kidding. But seriously Id probably even take Wffarriers shaken up one if he still has the pieces.

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they look nice but know of stores who wont handle them due to warranty issues. But that may apply to a variety of brands.

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Are there any thoughts or technical opinions on this. How say the Browning, Rossi, Miroku, Chiappa 92's rank for inherent strength, or is it all much of a muchness, being 92's are all strong.

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Doc from what I have read the 480's had the magazine threaded as well. Was it a fact the heat treat was different for the higher pressure calibres too, I read it once. Maybe the 454 casulls themselves could be the donor for the project. Way out of my paygrade to figure it out re magazine tube width,...

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Im the same Doc, I tried 454 casull in a buddies Super redhawk back in the early 2000's and it wasnt something I was interested in

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Do you have a technical reason why that should be so? Its the information I am after.

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Yes I reckon it will kick some, but I dont have a use for brakes anyhow, too hard on the ears.

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