Gentlemen

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:50 pm

Something I've noticed. On this forum, and a few others that deal with leverguns, and sixguns, folks often refer to others as "gentlemen". I haven't noticed that same sort of thing at Glock Talk or AR15.com. I wonder whether it is the general age of the folks here, or just the way we were brought up. Now I'm not bad mouthing the folks on the other forums, but there just seems to be more "respect" of one another on this and the other types of forums mentioned. Fould language is, also, about nonexistant in these parts. Nice to know the little ones can read it without fearing what they will read.

Let me just say, Thank You Gentlemen. It's a pleasure to converse with you. Okay, I forgot the ladies. That was my mistake. So please members of the fairer sex, please don't take me to task.

Tycer · Post by **Tycer** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:51 pm

45, sir.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:59 pm

Yo dawg. 'Sup wit dat?

Homey ain't "gentle" nuthin.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:29 pm

If I'm not polite, Hobie yells at me

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:37 pm

BlaineG wrote: If I'm not polite, Hobie yells at me

I have a few rough edges but, when in Rome....

FWiedner · Post by **FWiedner** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:38 pm

I haven't noticed that.

I see a tendency toward foul language and rude personal attacks any time an opinion strays from what might be regarded as "The Party Line."

Hagler · Post by **Hagler** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:44 pm

FWiedner wrote:I haven't noticed that.

I see a tendency toward foul language and rude personal attacks any time an opinion strays from what might be regarded as "The Party Line."

You know, it happens, but, sometimes your "opinnion" appears to be very deliberately meant to cause such a reaction.

Shawn

pharmseller · Post by **pharmseller** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:09 pm

Hagler wrote:
FWiedner wrote:I haven't noticed that.

I see a tendency toward foul language and rude personal attacks any time an opinion strays from what might be regarded as "The Party Line."

You know, it happens, but, sometimes your "opinnion" appears to be very deliberately meant to cause such a reaction.

Shawn

+1

I is foty-fo', gonna be foty-fi' soon.

Q

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:13 pm

Heck, I'm just a pup of 38. I think the tone here has more to do with the quality of the membership rather than age.

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:15 pm

I'll tell you exactly what it is. The AR forums are a bunch of twenty and thirty somethings and they have not yet learned to be nice. We are a bunch of "middle aged and older dudes" who were taught a little respect from our parents, (yea, most of us had two parents back then) who were from the greatest generation.

Besides, only us older dudes can afford this neat levergun stuff--when your young, you have to be happy with one AR as your total arsenal

----------Sixgun

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:25 pm

Griff sends me to my room, and never tells me I can come out!

Borregos · Post by **Borregos** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:27 pm

Sixgun +1

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:39 pm

Sixgun, I agree and I'll add that there was usually a "whuppen" a coming if you did dis someone and Dad found out.

Kids anymore won't even give up their seats to an elder when there's none left. And, I mean the elder is visually showing signs of stress and on the verge of falling over.

Duff L Bagg · Post by **Duff L Bagg** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:41 pm

Hagler wrote:
FWiedner wrote:I haven't noticed that.

I see a tendency toward foul language and rude personal attacks any time an opinion strays from what might be regarded as "The Party Line."

You know, it happens, but, sometimes your "opinnion" appears to be very deliberately meant to cause such a reaction.

Shawn

I often find that I am treated with the same amount of respect that I give. When I act as a gentleman I am treated a such but when I go looking to provoke I am treated accordingly.

I thank you Gentlemen for tolerating me.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:43 pm

hmmm I'm not sure the reason, sixgun may be on to something, but I am glad that the cursing and personal attacks are a min though we sometimes forget the rules. I consider this home, and those that visit here friends, family, or visitors.

Bearhands · Post by **Bearhands** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:52 pm

I belong to several gun/hunting forums...... and this one is the standout King of them all..... nice folks, without agendas, who're looking to help others share the comraderie of gun ownership..... thats why I visit it daily. That being said, I'd like to thank the members here for making it "a nice place to land"

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:14 pm

YEP.....
WE GOT A GREAT BUNCH OF GUYS HERE!
WE NOT ONLY HOLD ONTO OUR OLD WINCHESTER AND MARLINS
BUT WE HELD ONTO OUR OLD VALUES TOO!
ALTHOUGH WE DO GET OUT OF HAND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE
JUST FOR FUN!

stretch · Post by **stretch** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:26 pm

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we are a bunch (herd,flock?) of dinosaurs on this forum.
Polite dinosaurs, though.

I'm only 47, but I've got to say I'm absolutely appalled at how some adults and
children conduct themselves. My sons are always polite to adults. I'll even strongly
suggest to the older one to help older folks with their groceries when we're at the corner
store. He does - and cheerfully! The older folks are, without exception, thrilled
with the help from a polite young fella. This sort of behavior doesn't go unnoticed
in the community, either.

My little one is quite a handful, but he's got "please" and "thank you" down pretty
well.

I've made it a real point to stress how important it is to get along with others - not to
be a doormat, but to have good manners. The older one is now teaching the younger.

I know, this is SOP with folks on this forum, but to a lot of people it's unusual.

-Stretch

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:28 pm

Sixgun wrote:I'll tell you exactly what it is. The AR forums are a bunch of twenty and thirty somethings and they have not yet learned to be nice. We are a bunch of "middle aged and older dudes" who were taught a little respect from our parents, (yea, most of us had two parents back then) who were from the greatest generation.

Besides, only us older dudes can afford this neat levergun stuff--when your young, you have to be happy with one AR as your total arsenal ----------Sixgun

Hey wait a minute I am a 30 something ( just turned 34 on the 2nd of this month). But I will agree with the fact that you old buggers tend to have more funds for levers then me

Stan in SC · Post by **Stan in SC** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:31 pm

After all,we ARE lever gunners.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:41 pm

JReed wrote:Hey wait a minute I am a 30 something ( just turned 34 on the 2nd of this month).

You did NOT have to tell me that....

At 40+ I was just reminded (again) by the For Profit Gooberment Agency "Sallie Mae" (Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae's even more evil sister) how much I can't afford to pay for the Degree no one will let me use.

I think I'll just go shrivel up and expire.

drboomboom · Post by **drboomboom** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:49 pm

Well, even at 57 years of age, if I'm ever impolite I have to cringe...I'm waiting for Grandma to give me a swat with the stick. God bless her, I burned it up in the stove once and she just went out and got a bigger stick. Too many kids nowdays need bigger sticks.

505stevec · Post by **505stevec** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:50 pm

To me it just seem "Old School" American to be polite. And That is why I come here more than there. Though I love Lever guns I also love EBR's but you good folks are the ones I can relate with most. Every once in a while some Liberal posing as a Libertarian posing as a gun owner tries to stir things up but by and large this is the place to be

2ndovc · Post by **2ndovc** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:53 pm

Sixgun wrote:I'll tell you exactly what it is. The AR forums are a bunch of twenty and thirty somethings and they have not yet learned to be nice. We are a bunch of "middle aged and older dudes" who were taught a little respect from our parents, (yea, most of us had two parents back then) who were from the greatest generation.

Besides, only us older dudes can afford this neat levergun stuff--when your young, you have to be happy with one AR as your total arsenal ----------Sixgun

Sage words once again

But you're right. Not long ago I went on an FN FAL sight to try to find out what was wrong w/ my rifle. Never owning one before and they are quite different birds I couldn't figure out why my rifle suddenly wuldn't feed. After several posts calling me an idiot one fellow came along and told me I had the gas plug upside down in the grenade launch position.

made the change and never went back on.
Sold the rifle for a tidy sum and bought another Winchester

The people that hang out here are special. Can't explain it. That's just the way it is.

jb

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:02 pm

2ndovc wrote:...The people that hang out here are special. Can't explain it. That's just the way it is.

Word up yo.

morgan in nm · Post by **morgan in nm** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:17 pm

My theory to why people on here are more polite is that its not entirely the age of the members but the quality of the weapons we collect and love. After all, I am not even 30 yet but I try to be polite to a fault. Lever guns have a somewhat romantic following through history as a weapon that won the west. I find them to be attractive not only in design and usefulness but that most of them have a fine walnut stock that is not found on an AR15. There is a simplicity there with how a levergun functions that is historical that is not commonly found with other weapons. Maybe the polite factor has something to do with a historical firearm.

OK, I getting off my soapbox now and throwing away my dirty lever gun magazines

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:28 pm

morgan in nm wrote:...OK, I getting off my soapbox now and throwing away my dirty lever gun magazines

Yet somehow you always end up with the centerfold pinned up to your gunsafe...

What is it this month... an untouched 3 digit NIB 1873 with a NIB box of original factory ammo?

Jarhead · Post by **Jarhead** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:33 pm

Listen up "Ladies and Germs," I mean Gentlemen...(Just Kidding)

I was raised by a WW2, Korea, and Vietnam... Navy Senior Chief E-8...he taught me how to drink, cuss, fight, and chase women...also, how to shoot and hunt. I joined the Marines when I was 17 again'st his advice and wisdom

What did he know?

I expanded on his lessons even more when I joined the Marines at 17...

They taught me how to be a gentleman plus lots more

My folks taught to be respectful of others, watch my language, to keep my cool...watch my booze intake, etc...I didn't always listen...

Sometimes still don't, but I try...

My Mother taught me to be a Gentlemen, especially around her....or else!

Yea, I'm heading into my late Fifties now....

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:52 pm

2ndovc wrote:Not long ago I went on an FN FAL sight to try to find out what was wrong w/ my rifle.....After several posts calling me an idiot one fellow came along and told me I had the gas plug upside down in the grenade launch position. jb

I used to be real into a truck forum whose base was very much younger, probably 16-30yrs, and it is like nite/day to compare them with this crowd.

Sixgun wrote:Besides, only us older dudes can afford this neat levergun stuff--when your young, you have to be happy with one AR as your total arsenal ----------Sixgun

Mine combined make up an AR's value, does that count?

I could get a decent AR for just these two, but that will never happen while I am still warm to the touch.

SmokeEater2 · Post by **SmokeEater2** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:03 pm

Stan in SC wrote:After all,we ARE lever gunners.

+1

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:23 pm

JReed wrote:
Hey wait a minute I am a 30 something ( just turned 34 on the 2nd of this month). But I will agree with the fact that you old buggers tend to have more funds for levers then me

Jerry, Your one of the rare youngsters who's parents did a great job raising. In my time, it was the norm to be respectful---today its not. My son is a year older than you and yes, I bless his parents

He's a fine young man.
And as far as the bucks are concerned, well, we kicked our kids out so we could have more (not much more) for our Winchesters!----Sixgun

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:26 pm

="Old Ironsights"
Word up yo.

OI--Ain't that Bro?

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:30 pm

Mine combined make up an AR's value, does that count? I could get a decent AR for just.

Andrew--Yep, it counts but don't do it. One levergun is worth 20 Ar's in the bush. Does that make sense?

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:33 pm

Sixgun wrote:
="Old Ironsights"
Word up yo.
OI--Ain't that Bro?

Sho 'nuff.

Its' da shizzle. Layin the clak-latch from the rod at the range. No blak gats for dis homey. We's chillin with tha Duke.

JohndeFresno · Post by **JohndeFresno** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:36 pm

I don't really understand the question, but I'm 63, and I saw the word "Gentlemen" on the computer, and it is about time for me to make one of my trips to that room - so I clicked on it.

Jarhead · Post by **Jarhead** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:46 pm

Old Ironsights wrote:
Sixgun wrote:
="Old Ironsights"
Word up yo.
OI--Ain't that Bro?
Sho 'nuff.

Its' da shizzle. Layin the clak-latch from the rod at the range. No blak gats for dis homey. We's chillin with tha Duke.

Lock and Load...

Gentlemen...

Sixgun · Post by **Sixgun** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:51 pm

Lock and Load... Gentlemen...

OI--Your good with the ebonics!

Jarhead--I'm ready

Jarhead · Post by **Jarhead** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:00 pm

Sixgun wrote:

Lock and Load... Gentlemen...
OI--Your good with the ebonics!

Jarhead--I'm ready

Gentlemen,

OI...You didn't get your degree in Ebonics did you? Just Kiddin'...Man your good! You might get shot in the dark

Sixgun- Praise the Lord and please pass me some AMMO!

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:10 pm

For the most part all the participants here are a group of fine Christina gentlemen and FOR THE MOST PART, they act accordingly.

Old Ironsights · Post by **Old Ironsights** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:30 pm

Rusty wrote:For the most part all the participants here are a group of fine Christina gentlemen and FOR THE MOST PART, they act accordingly.

Fie on thee! I shall ever be a rabble-rousing racontuer! Never a Gentleman!

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:13 pm

I don't understand this jive?

Bogie35 · Post by **Bogie35** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:59 pm

Grey Poupon? What does a brutha hafta do ta get some French's mustard 'round here?

bogie

Paladin · Post by **Paladin** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:56 am

Bearhands wrote:I belong to several gun/hunting forums...... and this one is the standout King of them all..... nice folks, without agendas, who're looking to help others share the comraderie of gun ownership..... thats why I visit it daily. That being said, I'd like to thank the members here for making it "a nice place to land"

+1 at 52

homefront · Post by **homefront** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:26 am

Well, even at 57 years of age, if I'm ever impolite I have to cringe...I'm waiting for Grandma to give me a swat with the stick. God bless her, I burned it up in the stove once and she just went out and got a bigger stick. Too many kids nowdays need bigger sticks.

More than the stick, they need someone who's willing to swing it AND knows why it's needed.

In a Zen dojo, they use a stick called the kyusaku to keep the students awake and focused on their meditation. It is considered an aid, and the students are grateful for its "application" as it helps them to work hard to reach enlightenment.

Using the media, liberals have brainwashed the masses into believing that all forms of discipline are brutish and wrong.

They believe that the Judeo/Christian laws and morals that this country was founded upon are too restrictive, and that us old-fashioned types have no right to impose our beliefs on anyone, especially youth. So they are allowed to run amuck (definition: frenzied as if possessed by a demon), and the left-wing hollywood liberals profit greatly from it. They pat themselves on the back, assuring each other that they are promoting freedom of expression.

It's a sickness of the soul, one that most of the membership here recognizes and stands staunchly against.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:22 pm

mescalero1 wrote:Griff sends me to my room, and never tells me I can come out!

You seem to have snuck out and have been minding your manners, so further comment might have only served to point up your transgression!

In general, I view the many christian gentlemen, including some pastors and LEOs, who have dealt with the worst of society, and have their morals and integrity intact find that talking at the level of the other party in the conversation is a habit that often leaves both parties in good stead. That general, well-behaved demeanor rubs off on the rest of the membership; the ocassional lapse by an individual is often taken up via PM or polite admonishment and in my mind is the prefered way to handle the rare incident; dropping to the level of the offender does no one any good.

Plus, I would suspect that most men on this forum still hold open doors for ladies and the elderly, get thanked for same and see no reason to change or modify their behavior for the uncouth.

What Sixgun and Morgan in NM mentioned are also large parts of the character of the forum.

OI, being the lone exception!

Bearhands · Post by **Bearhands** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:48 pm

"the left-wing hollywood liberals profit greatly from it. They pat themselves on the back, assuring each other that they are promoting freedom of expression.

It's a sickness of the soul, one that most of the membership here recognizes and stands staunchly against."

I am grateful for it (the staunchly against part)

El Chivo · Post by **El Chivo** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:40 pm

I think this is the sort of group where you get back what you put in. Few are looking to be discourteous, but all will send someone to the shed when it's necessary.

I've had the opportunity to meet (and hunt/shoot with) several members and they've been good experiences. At our Levergunner's dinner the conversation went on for two hours nonstop.

Doc Hudson · Post by **Doc Hudson** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:56 pm

jeepnik wrote:Something I've noticed. On this forum, and a few others that deal with leverguns, and sixguns, folks often refer to others as "gentlemen". I haven't noticed that same sort of thing at Glock Talk or AR15.com. I wonder whether it is the general age of the folks here, or just the way we were brought up. Now I'm not bad mouthing the folks on the other forums, but there just seems to be more "respect" of one another on this and the other types of forums mentioned. Fould language is, also, about nonexistant in these parts. Nice to know the little ones can read it without fearing what they will read.

Let me just say, Thank You Gentlemen. It's a pleasure to converse with you. Okay, I forgot the ladies. That was my mistake. So please members of the fairer sex, please don't take me to task.

I haven't read all the posts in this thread so I'm probably repeating things that have already been said, but I'll have at it anyway.

There are two major reasons for the courtsey and gentility of this site:

1 - Paco Kelly is one of Nature's Gentlemen and behaving in less than a gentlemanly fashion in his parlor would be a height of rudeness that few of us would attempt.

2 - Lots of folks on this sight have known and respected each other for going on 15 years. We might fuss and fight like any other family, but there is a sense of family that causes us to treat our old friends and acquaintances with the respect they've earned.

Of somewhat less importance is the act that as you've guessed, we tend to be older, and/or more conservatively reared than many of the Rambo wanna-bes of the flatgun forums. Lots of the members here have seen the elephant and not only know the havoc of combat, but know how to come out alive and uninjured. We also have some darned good moderators who simply won't tolerate excessively rude behavior.

And finally, most of the folks who post here are gentlemen. They know how to behave in polite company, and this group is polite company. As Heinlein said: An armed Society is a Polite Society. And since this is definitely an armed society, it is polite.

jeepnik · Post by **jeepnik** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:46 pm

Wow, never expected this thing to go on for three pages. I just wanted to acknowlege the type of folks we have here. Makes one happy to be associated with this group.

JerryB · Post by **JerryB** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:29 pm

Hey Griff, how many men do you see that take their hat off in an elevator? They just ain't raised that way now. Also how many days go by without a prayer request? That too shows the quality of the folks here.