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A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
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(...now I may be wrong, and the shooter might turn out to be a hilbilly redneck MAGA-dude, but I kinda doubt it....)
Evidently can't help shooting and stabbing people who have different opinions...
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2119596465112797
...in this case - Charlie Kirk.
(...now I may be wrong, and the shooter might turn out to be a hilbilly redneck MAGA-dude, but I kinda doubt it....)
Evidently can't help shooting and stabbing people who have different opinions...
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2119596465112797
...in this case - Charlie Kirk.
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video:
https://x.com/not_rekt_11/status/1965868427891142817
Trump just posted that Mr. Kirk has died
https://x.com/not_rekt_11/status/1965868427891142817
Trump just posted that Mr. Kirk has died
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Rest in Peace Charlie Kirk !
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"I'll tell you what living is. You get up when you feel like it. You fry yourself some eggs. You see what kind of a day it is."
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The 'woke progressive liberals' are FAR more of a threat than the most viscious street criminal. The latter can be stopped with a handgun, but the 'libtard' movement consists of literally MILLIONS of naive and arrogant Marxists who would label themselves 'liberal' or 'progressive', and boast of their 'tolerance' and how 'inclusive' they are, all the while endorsing lies, censorship, cheating, election fraud, and even violence.
Nation after nation, the liberals rise to power in the cradle of capitalism, then once in power, get upset at the thought that others with a better work ethic or smarter brain, may surpass them in their materialistic metric of life-success, and turn the system socialist, to lock-in their wealth and power, and shut out the lower classes. They pretend to do all this in the name of 'equity' and 'fairness to the underdog', but they wind up in actuality creating a hellscape like they've done all over the world, from Germany 100 years ago, to contemporary Venezuela.
It is truly the last hope of civilization that it stops in the US.
How anyone can still support the Democrat Party, since it wholeheartedly has endorsed the 'liberal' agenda, is beyond me...
The 'woke progressive liberals' are FAR more of a threat than the most viscious street criminal. The latter can be stopped with a handgun, but the 'libtard' movement consists of literally MILLIONS of naive and arrogant Marxists who would label themselves 'liberal' or 'progressive', and boast of their 'tolerance' and how 'inclusive' they are, all the while endorsing lies, censorship, cheating, election fraud, and even violence.
Nation after nation, the liberals rise to power in the cradle of capitalism, then once in power, get upset at the thought that others with a better work ethic or smarter brain, may surpass them in their materialistic metric of life-success, and turn the system socialist, to lock-in their wealth and power, and shut out the lower classes. They pretend to do all this in the name of 'equity' and 'fairness to the underdog', but they wind up in actuality creating a hellscape like they've done all over the world, from Germany 100 years ago, to contemporary Venezuela.
It is truly the last hope of civilization that it stops in the US.
How anyone can still support the Democrat Party, since it wholeheartedly has endorsed the 'liberal' agenda, is beyond me...

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yes, but this was a trained shooter, not your typical blue-haired, nose-ring moron.
the old guy was a patsy, this was a rooftop shot from 200 yards out. Not a hard shot for us, but sounds a little more professional than a typical progressive.
the old guy was a patsy, this was a rooftop shot from 200 yards out. Not a hard shot for us, but sounds a little more professional than a typical progressive.
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Ironically Kirk had just posted this on the Ukrainian girl stabbed to death by a privileged type (black repeat offender).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsXWrf7bANQ
The ‘response’ will probably be a law against pocket knives on public transit.
Here’s a young black woman commenting on Kirk’s death….a young black woman WITH INTEGRITY….
https://youtu.be/j5a3WRaT6mg
Ironically Kirk had just posted this on the Ukrainian girl stabbed to death by a privileged type (black repeat offender).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsXWrf7bANQ
The ‘response’ will probably be a law against pocket knives on public transit.

Here’s a young black woman commenting on Kirk’s death….a young black woman WITH INTEGRITY….
https://youtu.be/j5a3WRaT6mg
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
I am beyond disgusted at the moment. First the Ukrainian young woman just north of me, and now this. For the latter, this just proves my point that every bit of political violence in the last decade plus had been done by leftist against those on the right. They can't win a logical debate, and their positions are so weak, so morally bankrupt that they must kill their opponents.
The Democrats and the left are terrified that if a honest history is written in the next few decades it will show that socialism communism, leftism, etc. was responsible for the violence and murder of millions of innocents in the 20th and early 21st century.

The Democrats and the left are terrified that if a honest history is written in the next few decades it will show that socialism communism, leftism, etc. was responsible for the violence and murder of millions of innocents in the 20th and early 21st century.



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The disgusting thing is not only the crazy liberals that celebrate his death, but all of these so-called intellectuals who EQUIVOCATE and keep saying things like “…we must stop the violence and hateful rhetoric, on both sides…”. Really…??? “…on BOTH sides…???”
I’m sorry, and I know that there can always be some specific instance where some right wing nutcase does something bad, but time and time and time and time again the LEFT is the source of violence both in its commission, and it’s celebration.
I hear people equivocate, perhaps as a way to attempt to calm strident political discussions at family get-together or workplace, but I’m tired of conservatives or Trump supporters automatically having to pretend that they are just as bad, or almost as bad, as those on the left. That’s nonsense. Sure, there are plenty of people on the left who at least say they are nonviolent and say they oppose assassination, and want less violent crime. However, they turn loose violent criminals that assassinate and commit violent crime, so it’s hard to believe their sincerity.
The disgusting thing is not only the crazy liberals that celebrate his death, but all of these so-called intellectuals who EQUIVOCATE and keep saying things like “…we must stop the violence and hateful rhetoric, on both sides…”. Really…??? “…on BOTH sides…???”
I’m sorry, and I know that there can always be some specific instance where some right wing nutcase does something bad, but time and time and time and time again the LEFT is the source of violence both in its commission, and it’s celebration.
I hear people equivocate, perhaps as a way to attempt to calm strident political discussions at family get-together or workplace, but I’m tired of conservatives or Trump supporters automatically having to pretend that they are just as bad, or almost as bad, as those on the left. That’s nonsense. Sure, there are plenty of people on the left who at least say they are nonviolent and say they oppose assassination, and want less violent crime. However, they turn loose violent criminals that assassinate and commit violent crime, so it’s hard to believe their sincerity.
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And in those rare cases, the right immediately slams the shooter and NEVER says the victim deserved to be killed, regardless of how vile they may have been. The left, on the other hand, is already celebrating Charlie's death and making excuses for the shooter.

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I'm positive that my limited supply of tolerance was completely used up when Barry and Big Mike started their campaign against The Evils Of White People.
My understanding of the Bible is very limited, but God scattered the people in the Tower of Babel because, IMO, Diversity wasn't all that good. I concur.
My, that's awfully White of me to say that, eh?
My understanding of the Bible is very limited, but God scattered the people in the Tower of Babel because, IMO, Diversity wasn't all that good. I concur.

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The thing is, although the Left loves violence, and justifies all their lies, theft, fraud, censorship, and violence by "the ends justify the means" because in their arrogance they feel THEY define "the greater good" - the political Right prefers to use open and honest discussion, kind rhetoric versus the 'hate speech' of the Left, and decries any use of violence towards political ends.
HOWEVER - it is inevitable that if you poke a bear enough times, it will rip your head off. Most of us are pretty calm and hard to provoke (I can count the times I've "lost my temper" as an adult on one hand, and in each case I took it out on a physical thing, not a person). But there is going to be that one in a thousand right-winger who is going to soon say they've "had enough" and they are likely going to lash out.
Of course when that happens, it will be wrong, as that's not the way "we" do things, but the Left and their lap-dog 'news' media will seize upon whatever happens and EQUIVOCATE - claiming that 'the Right is just as bad as the Left' - or far more likely they will blame the Right for ALL the violence, regardless of whether committed by the Left (like 95% or more of it currently is) or the Right.
Just be prepared for that 'news' media blitz, blaming people like us for the actions of the last 95 Democrat-supporting violent attackers and killers, as well as the 4 or 5 they can dredge up and label 'Right Wing'.
I really hope the majority of the 'Right' doesn't lose their temper politically, because there is so much power there to do violence it would potentially destroy our nation. WE NEED TO DIRECT THAT ANGER AND ENERGY POLITICALLY, AND VOTE IN PRIMARIES, AND VERBALLY LOBBY AND BADGER THE 'RINO' POLITICIANS WHO HAVE LET OUR NATION DETERIORATE.
...AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT 'OFFENDING' LIBERALS.
And if you need some 'comic relief' - Obama said he "condemsdespicable violence" - MR DIVISIVE Himself...
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025 ... assinated/
The thing is, although the Left loves violence, and justifies all their lies, theft, fraud, censorship, and violence by "the ends justify the means" because in their arrogance they feel THEY define "the greater good" - the political Right prefers to use open and honest discussion, kind rhetoric versus the 'hate speech' of the Left, and decries any use of violence towards political ends.
HOWEVER - it is inevitable that if you poke a bear enough times, it will rip your head off. Most of us are pretty calm and hard to provoke (I can count the times I've "lost my temper" as an adult on one hand, and in each case I took it out on a physical thing, not a person). But there is going to be that one in a thousand right-winger who is going to soon say they've "had enough" and they are likely going to lash out.
Of course when that happens, it will be wrong, as that's not the way "we" do things, but the Left and their lap-dog 'news' media will seize upon whatever happens and EQUIVOCATE - claiming that 'the Right is just as bad as the Left' - or far more likely they will blame the Right for ALL the violence, regardless of whether committed by the Left (like 95% or more of it currently is) or the Right.
Just be prepared for that 'news' media blitz, blaming people like us for the actions of the last 95 Democrat-supporting violent attackers and killers, as well as the 4 or 5 they can dredge up and label 'Right Wing'.
I really hope the majority of the 'Right' doesn't lose their temper politically, because there is so much power there to do violence it would potentially destroy our nation. WE NEED TO DIRECT THAT ANGER AND ENERGY POLITICALLY, AND VOTE IN PRIMARIES, AND VERBALLY LOBBY AND BADGER THE 'RINO' POLITICIANS WHO HAVE LET OUR NATION DETERIORATE.
...AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT 'OFFENDING' LIBERALS.
And if you need some 'comic relief' - Obama said he "condemsdespicable violence" - MR DIVISIVE Himself...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025 ... assinated/
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The Conservatives and, yes, MAGAs are going to pop and lose it pretty soon. None too soon, IMO....then it will make Bosnia look like a picnic. I think that if this current drive for DOJ to squelch the criminal/marxist left is not successful the "pop" will happen.AJMD429 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:45 pm .
The thing is, although the Left loves violence, and justifies all their lies, theft, fraud, censorship, and violence by "the ends justify the means" because in their arrogance they feel THEY define "the greater good" - the political Right prefers to use open and honest discussion, kind rhetoric versus the 'hate speech' of the Left, and decries any use of violence towards political ends.
HOWEVER - it is inevitable that if you poke a bear enough times, it will rip your head off. Most of us are pretty calm and hard to provoke (I can count the times I've "lost my temper" as an adult on one hand, and in each case I took it out on a physical thing, not a person). But there is going to be that one in a thousand right-winger who is going to soon say they've "had enough" and they are likely going to lash out.
Of course when that happens, it will be wrong, as that's not the way "we" do things, but the Left and their lap-dog 'news' media will seize upon whatever happens and EQUIVOCATE - claiming that 'the Right is just as bad as the Left' - or far more likely they will blame the Right for ALL the violence, regardless of whether committed by the Left (like 95% or more of it currently is) or the Right.
Just be prepared for that 'news' media blitz, blaming people like us for the actions of the last 95 Democrat-supporting violent attackers and killers, as well as the 4 or 5 they can dredge up and label 'Right Wing'.
I really hope the majority of the 'Right' doesn't lose their temper politically, because there is so much power there to do violence it would potentially destroy our nation. WE NEED TO DIRECT THAT ANGER AND ENERGY POLITICALLY, AND VOTE IN PRIMARIES, AND VERBALLY LOBBY AND BADGER THE 'RINO' POLITICIANS WHO HAVE LET OUR NATION DETERIORATE.
...AND QUIT WORRYING ABOUT 'OFFENDING' LIBERALS.
And if you need some 'comic relief' - Obama said he "condemsdespicable violence" - MR DIVISIVE Himself...![]()
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025 ... assinated/
I'm sure you have seen that the Chicago Left is violently against law and order that last few days. So be it. Makes the enemy easier to ID.
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Re: A peace-loving, tolerant, inclusive liberal...shot Charlie Kirk...
Acts like this are done out of fear that person they kill pose a danger to their own beliefs because they know the victim is speaking the truth and they want to silence them before this truth has a chance to spread
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I really like Laura Loomer's blunt response to Obama's hypocritical "tone down the rhetoric" advice -
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/0 ... expresses/
More in the political realm need to cut to the chase with words like hers.
I really like Laura Loomer's blunt response to Obama's hypocritical "tone down the rhetoric" advice -
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/0 ... expresses/
More in the political realm need to cut to the chase with words like hers.
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I hope trump gives him a folded flag.El Chivo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:53 pm video:
https://x.com/not_rekt_11/status/1965868427891142817
Trump just posted that Mr. Kirk has died
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He's getting the Presidential Medal of Freedomrossim92 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:56 pmI hope trump gives him a folded flag.El Chivo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:53 pm video:
https://x.com/not_rekt_11/status/1965868427891142817
Trump just posted that Mr. Kirk has died
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THIS is interesting - https://x.com/scrowder/status/1966118431511433267
Supposedly the weapon found had a bunch of left-wing garbage written or engraved on the cartridges...
Anyone surprised...???
The 'inclusive' and 'kind' liberals/Democrat students our colleges are full of just LOVE political violence - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/0 ... lassmates/
AND their professors spew and inflame this hate and violence (even the ones teaching about 'racism') - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... r-AA1Mn8ol
Of course the 'political class' has their Democrats who love to use violence as a means for political change - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/0 ... rlie-kirk/
And this VIOLENT left-wing attitude even extends to the Secret Service - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/0 ... g-charlie/
Yet it is the Conservatives who are called 'violent fascists' by the 'news' media...
One of my fellow physicians said "Well, the Republicans are just as bad..." and I figured he meant something about 'rhetoric', so asked for examples from the conservatives that were as violent as that from the liberals. He had none. He said "But it's wrong to imply that most of the violence comes from the Left", and I said "I didn't IMPLY it, I STATED it, and it is true... look at all the Republicans getting shot at, and look at these deranged school shooters and people killing random strangers on subways and trains - are you telling me that ANY of them are MAGA types...?" He said "We still don't know the ideology of the guy who shot Trump, and the neither of the Kennedys were Republicans, so I doubt it was any left-winger who shot them." I said "If you read history about that era, it looks clear that Bobby Kennedy and John Fitzgerald Kennedy were both killed because they were attacking the 'deep state', and that by today's rules both of them would be 'moderate conservatives', and were likely just "not far enough left" so had to be eliminated by the CIA or whoever."
Of course my physician friend didn't think that was true, so we "agreed to disagree". At least he's not "liberal enough" to shoot me for disagreeing with him...
I think this is because the liberals live in a self-imposed 'bubble' of ignorance and misinformation - see how 'they' describe Kirk politically - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/no-i- ... r-AA1Mlhas. Of course it is easy to predict the Liberal Bubble of Igorance, because they acccuse Conservatives of living in a Conservative Bubble of Ignorance; whatever the liberals accuse others of will always turn out to be PRECISELY what they are doing - including not only their 'bubble of ignorance', but their support of violence, which we all see comes 90% or more from the Left, but the liberals say is almost exclusively from the Right.
Thank GOD some of our young people see through the 'liberal' nonsense - https://x.com/TheLucyShow1/status/1965932486736908620
AND Nick Frietas had an EXCELLENT commentary - perhaps the best political speech I've ever heard…!
https://youtu.be/Yz9ABh1X2rY
THIS is interesting - https://x.com/scrowder/status/1966118431511433267
Supposedly the weapon found had a bunch of left-wing garbage written or engraved on the cartridges...
Anyone surprised...???
The 'inclusive' and 'kind' liberals/Democrat students our colleges are full of just LOVE political violence - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/0 ... lassmates/
AND their professors spew and inflame this hate and violence (even the ones teaching about 'racism') - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... r-AA1Mn8ol
Of course the 'political class' has their Democrats who love to use violence as a means for political change - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/0 ... rlie-kirk/
And this VIOLENT left-wing attitude even extends to the Secret Service - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/0 ... g-charlie/
Yet it is the Conservatives who are called 'violent fascists' by the 'news' media...
One of my fellow physicians said "Well, the Republicans are just as bad..." and I figured he meant something about 'rhetoric', so asked for examples from the conservatives that were as violent as that from the liberals. He had none. He said "But it's wrong to imply that most of the violence comes from the Left", and I said "I didn't IMPLY it, I STATED it, and it is true... look at all the Republicans getting shot at, and look at these deranged school shooters and people killing random strangers on subways and trains - are you telling me that ANY of them are MAGA types...?" He said "We still don't know the ideology of the guy who shot Trump, and the neither of the Kennedys were Republicans, so I doubt it was any left-winger who shot them." I said "If you read history about that era, it looks clear that Bobby Kennedy and John Fitzgerald Kennedy were both killed because they were attacking the 'deep state', and that by today's rules both of them would be 'moderate conservatives', and were likely just "not far enough left" so had to be eliminated by the CIA or whoever."
Of course my physician friend didn't think that was true, so we "agreed to disagree". At least he's not "liberal enough" to shoot me for disagreeing with him...

I think this is because the liberals live in a self-imposed 'bubble' of ignorance and misinformation - see how 'they' describe Kirk politically - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/no-i- ... r-AA1Mlhas. Of course it is easy to predict the Liberal Bubble of Igorance, because they acccuse Conservatives of living in a Conservative Bubble of Ignorance; whatever the liberals accuse others of will always turn out to be PRECISELY what they are doing - including not only their 'bubble of ignorance', but their support of violence, which we all see comes 90% or more from the Left, but the liberals say is almost exclusively from the Right.
Thank GOD some of our young people see through the 'liberal' nonsense - https://x.com/TheLucyShow1/status/1965932486736908620
AND Nick Frietas had an EXCELLENT commentary - perhaps the best political speech I've ever heard…!
https://youtu.be/Yz9ABh1X2rY
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they caught the guy: https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1966486836059967737
nice looking Utah young man, turned in by his father
not a tranny or blue-haired goofball

nice looking Utah young man, turned in by his father
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Well if he doesn’t get the death penalty he will have a very long time (life)in a maximum security prison to contemplate on what a complete waste of oxygen he is.Given his age a life sentence with no chance of parole in the prison reserved for the most dangerous criminals might be worse than death
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Honestly I thought it was classy that the Governor Cox said "I want to thank the family of [the shooter]..." Because they could easily have covered for him instead of turning him in.
Think about it - knowing it is a highly emotionally charged case, and clearly one where they are going to seek the death penalty, thus knowing that turning in your own relative (in this case, son) could well mean they are executed - that took immense integrity, and had to be a hard thing to do.
Having said that, of couse in our current dysfunctional system, the trial will not happen for years, and will be appealed a zillion times, and then even if there is a death penalty applied, which isn't that likely in the long run, the killer is often so old by that time that the victim would have died of natural causes and old age by the time their killer faces his/her own death. Our system is ridiculous - it is one thing to draw out a case where the crime is in 'dispute' as to who really did the killing, but in cases where there is clear fingerprint, video, and DNA evidence, clear documentation of premeditation and confession, the killer should be immediately removed from society - either in permanent, true-lifelong, prison, funded by charity instead of taxpayers, or executed.
Honestly I thought it was classy that the Governor Cox said "I want to thank the family of [the shooter]..." Because they could easily have covered for him instead of turning him in.
Think about it - knowing it is a highly emotionally charged case, and clearly one where they are going to seek the death penalty, thus knowing that turning in your own relative (in this case, son) could well mean they are executed - that took immense integrity, and had to be a hard thing to do.
Having said that, of couse in our current dysfunctional system, the trial will not happen for years, and will be appealed a zillion times, and then even if there is a death penalty applied, which isn't that likely in the long run, the killer is often so old by that time that the victim would have died of natural causes and old age by the time their killer faces his/her own death. Our system is ridiculous - it is one thing to draw out a case where the crime is in 'dispute' as to who really did the killing, but in cases where there is clear fingerprint, video, and DNA evidence, clear documentation of premeditation and confession, the killer should be immediately removed from society - either in permanent, true-lifelong, prison, funded by charity instead of taxpayers, or executed.
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Society has no place for people like him