This Aero Precision offering will upset some folks...

[AJMD429]

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They have entered the levergun market - of course with a 'tactical' version (not exactly like anyone can come up with a 'better' version of the 'vintage' versions, which are pretty much perfect for their purposes)...

https://www.offgridweb.com/gear/aero-pr ... ion-rifle/

I do get annoyed with some of the 'vintage' levergun features/faults though:

- the problem when one gets soaking wet from rain or snow, especially under the forend.
- the difficulty in attaching good sights for old eyes.
- the difficulty in attaching a light/laser for nocturnal farmstead use.

These aluminum chassis type levergun carbines get around those issues, even if they 'look funny'.

[JimT]

While it is certainly not something I am interested in, these days I hate to "pooh pooh" anyone who is venturing into the firearms field with something new. And if marketed, it will attract some. Whether that's enough to make it viable or not will remain to be seen.

[Scott Tschirhart]

I’m not really sure what they are trying to do, but if folks want this, who am I to object?

But I’m sticking with my old fashioned leverguns.

[J Miller]

I haven't posted much lately, but I can't let this chance pass by.

That is the ugliest piece of pelosi out there and I wouldn't own one or shoot one if it was offered to me for free with a lifetime supply of ammo.

There is nothing wrong with walnut and steel lever guns, just take care of of them.


Joe

[Scott Tschirhart]

I wouldn't own one or shoot one if it was offered to me for free with a lifetime supply of ammo.

Joe

Joe, I can’t go there! A lifetime supply of ammo?????

[COSteve]

My eyes! My eyes! A new low in firearms for sure. Butt ugly is all I can say.

Edit to Add:

Not on a bet. Not if it was free. Not if they paid me to take it.

I'd be embarrassed to be seen in public with that monstrosity.

[Bill in Oregon]

After looking at other recent abominations, I don't think this one is the worst of the lot -- and Aero Precision makes some pretty good AR parts. What I can't abide is the skeletonized "chassis" butt stock that would seem ready to catch on just about anything. Horrible choice for brush.

[buckeyeshooter]

That is one ugly rifle. I like walnut and blue and if I am hunting in snow or pouring rain, I pull out my JM Marlin XLR in .308ME with the nice leupold 2 x7x 33 in silver. That solves any objections in my book.

[JimT]

I will .. like Scott ... stick to the old tried and true leverguns.

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I took the Rossi .357 to the CSA Shoot in Arkansas last week. Using the 125 gr. Speer jacketed bullet over 20 gr. of WC820 at ranges to 100 yards offhand it proved accurate. I was able to ring the 4" target at 70 or 75 yards easily. It will do most all that I want to do with a levergun.

[stretch]

Apparently CNC machines are now programmed with a,
"Beat the Metal Unmercifully with The BIG Ugly Stick"
setting.

GAWD!

-Stretch

[TraderVic]

First thought is "you can put lipstick on a pig" , but...
Yes, it's a levergun, but....
(maybe if I wanted/needed a levergun in my jonboat, this would work )

[samsi]

I was relieved when I scrolled down far enough to see they're also going to offer a traditional stock option, though I'll admit to being somewhat intrigued by the "modern" stock. What all is in there? Can opener...boot stretcher?

[44shooter]

Seems John Marlin's designs are the ones to clone these days...Henry, S&W, Aero, Rossi's long action, and of course Ruger.

I'm okay with the rifle but don't want one. I think it would make more sense in revolver calibers for it's purpose.

[LeverGunner]

Good night that's "not aesthetically pleasing"!

[GunnyMack]

That must be so ugly my tablet won't open the link- says it's a corrupted link!

[J Miller]

I wouldn't own one or shoot one if it was offered to me for free with a lifetime supply of ammo.

Joe

Joe, I can’t go there! A lifetime supply of ammo?????

Scott, at my age, location and condition, a lifetime supply of ammo wouldn't be much.


Joe

[1894cfan]

Eh, what ever floats yer boat. Me? I'll pass. I like my Win 94 and Marlin 1894c with ballard riffling just fine!

[Grizz]

I hope that newfangled thing gets a huge massive following and the LGS shelves fill up with the guns I like, and then I can scoop up cheap leverguns again ! ! ! L O L

[AJMD429]

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There's more and more of these now...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technolo ... r-AA1nZrNF

'Tactical Leverguns' are certainly here to stay. Kind of like the 'Mattel Toy' AR-15 that came out in the 70's that most of us made fun of and thought of as ugly and pretty useless. Now most of us own one. I wonder if it will be the same with the 'tactical' version of leverguns. I have one, plus my 'Night Scout' modifications I've found more 'practical' than 'tactical'.

I had to laugh the other day - ordering a new stethoscope, and the medical supply house had a "tactical stethoscope" model...

It was simply one that had a matte-black finish to the bell part, and ear tubing, instead of the usual chrome plated steel. I guess it does sort of make sense. But it still sounded sort of funny.

[Streetstar]

I like it -- you guys' want to see ugly, check out the POF Tombstone - LOL

Im in the camp that would have to try the thing out before buying it, im not adventurous enough to take a leap of faith on that wild looking stock -- but my interests shift semi-annually and i try out new things

If i had an old Glenfield or something, id like to try a forend and stock like that if it were made available separately --- just couldnt bring myself to spend $1700 bucks on that one on a leap of faith --- the Stag Arms rifle in the same article looks nice -- but as has been noted - looks like another clone of a Marlin with a green laminate stock

I think the Mossberg Tactical 464 was worse than the Aero though --- that one came out too soon - if they re-introduced it now it might sell like hotcakes . I liked the Mossberg due to its Winchesterish good looks which i prefer to the Marlin and similar rifles in general. If i could find one with the weatherguard finish and green laminate on one of the auction sites i might be tempted

[Streetstar]

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I had to laugh the other day - ordering a new stethoscope, and the medical supply house had a "tactical stethoscope" model...

Should come with a "Boogaloo Boys" style tropical print shirt

[jkbrea]

This is as tactical as I went with a lever gun....

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[Griff]

I must admit that it evokes no strong reaction in me. The shock of such thing dissipated after the first viewing of the Mossberg offering. But, my optimistic hope is that it's offered in .32-40, sells like hotcakes at a firehouse breakfast, inducing Remington & Winchester to produce ammo & brass again!

[marlinman93]

I will never be able to look at these tactical leverguns and not get sick to my stomach.

[AJMD429]

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I guess I'll post a pic of my current go-to levergun, which may look funny, but does a few things I require sometimes that the 'normal' ones cannot do.

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Some things my normal leverguns just don't do all that well, and sometimes I need a gun that is:

- able to do really fast snap-shooting if required - red-dot sight with default etched circle (a Marbles 'Bullseye' is about as fast but difficult in poor lighting).

- able to go out in pouring rain without a swollen wood stock - ugly aluminum lightweight buttstock with spare round carrier.

- able to take care of nocturnal predators without upsetting the neighbor with gunfire - threaded barrel (& suppressor).

- able to come in from soaking wet outing without having to pull the forend off to prevent magazine tube rust - ugly stainless steel vs blued, aluminum ventilated forend.

- able to hit a chicken-eating raccoon scuttling into the weeds at 50 yards, in complete darkness - light under forend, currently replaced with smaller one that includes green laser that helps discern nocturnal targets better than the red-dot sight alone, and facilitates rapid daytime shots from awkward non-shouldered positions.

None of my 'normal' leverguns come close to these things, and the lighter weight of the stock and forend is very nice. I don't think the dead possums or raccoons or whatever care of they are shot with a 'classic' or not.

Now if I'm going to sit by the fire and muse over the hunts of my youth, I'll have my grandfather's 32-20 Marlin 1889 in my lap, and probably rub a bit of linseed oil into a stock ding, maybe put a little Hoppes #9 down the barrel, and admire the patina of the old but soft steel. That gun and other walnut-and-blued-steel leverguns are not just 'guns' or 'tools', but also works of art, and the older ones are examples of craftsmanship we no longer see. I won't deny my fondness for them, but I won't pretend they can do what my 'tactical' 357 can do, either...

I know if I just want a 'tactical' (or practical) TOOL, I could just grab my AR-15 pistol in 300 Blackout, put the same suppressor on it, and have more rounds of similar-to-357-Mag ammo to deal with the barnyard predators, and it has the same kinds of sights, but I'd still rather have a levergun in my hands when going out to see why the chickens or goats are upset, even if it looks nerdy; it still won't look as nerdy as my 300 Blackout AR pistol does....

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I know there are some tasks a levergun just cannot do well (half-MOA accuracy, >5,000 ft-lbs energy, >600 yard accuracy, conceal in jeans pocket, fast fifty rounds), but the relatively simple task of going out in the pouring rain at 3 a.m. to check livestock, pick off a predator or two without blinding flash or noise, come back inside, set the gun in the corner without a wipe-down, and crawl back in bed because my 16 hour workday starts in two hours, is something my 300 Blackout could do, but the brass is more expensive and would be more likely lost, and I just LIKE leverguns better. So like many others seem wont to do, I try to make a levergun do the thing I need done. And it works well, even though it looks funny. (...come to think of it, I work well, and look funny, so I can relate... )

At least my Marlin setup above doesn't look quite as bizarre as the Mossberg one, and some of the others. For those who want something not too 'offensive', the S&W and Henry offerings don't seem all that odd.

[Streetstar]

. the relatively simple task of going out in the pouring rain at 3 a.m. to check livestock, pick off a predator or two without blinding flash or noise, come back inside, set the gun in the corner without a wipe-down, and crawl back in bed because my 16 hour workday starts in two hours,

The ultimate "Go On -- G'it !!! " gun

[Grizz]

Hey Doc, good working guns there. Here's a tip about the stocks in wet weather business. All of my firearms were bedded in vaseline, the dollar-store cosmoline. The under sides of the guns look brand new. They were disassembled at the end of the hunting and logging activities, the vaseline cleaned up and replaced for the next season. I also used it inside of guns where it wouldn't freeze up the action parts in cold wx. When transporting or shipping arms in the wx I put vaseline on the exposed metal. Guarded against condensation and flooding rains . . . The guide gun is my always ready gun, and no vaseline necessary as long as I keep it near the woodstove in between outings .. .

grizz

[wvfarrier]

More leverguns = betterer

[AJMD429]

Hey Doc, good working guns there. Here's a tip about the stocks in wet weather business. All of my firearms were bedded in vaseline, the dollar-store cosmoline. The under sides of the guns look brand new. They were disassembled at the end of the hunting and logging activities, the vaseline cleaned up and replaced for the next season. I also used it inside of guns where it wouldn't freeze up the action parts in cold wx. When transporting or shipping arms in the wx I put vaseline on the exposed metal. Guarded against condensation and flooding rains . . . The guide gun is my always ready gun, and no vaseline necessary as long as I keep it near the woodstove in between outings .. .

grizz

Vaseline is pretty neat stuff. I'd never known about using it on cotton balls as tinder, until a couple years ago. I use it to make hinges quiet down, too - stays put better than oil, but just smearing it on the outside of a hinge it will still usually penetrate to the squeak. I won't even get into the 'medical' things it can facilitate...