The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
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The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
Some fellows here may be unfamiliar with the different models that Winchester put out all of which used the original Model 1892 action, itself a smaller version of the Model 1886 action, with the two locking lugs, one on each side of the bolt.
The Model 1892: The Winchester Model 1892 began production in 1892 and continued until 1941. The calibers were 25 WCF (25-20), 32 WCF (32-20), 38 WCF (38-40), and 44 WCF (44-40). It was available in both rifle and carbine configuration. Later on in production, around 1919 or 1920, it was designated as the Model 92. A total of just over one million Model 1892/92 guns were made.
The Model 53: The Model 53 was a lighter version of the Model 1892/92, with standard configuration having a light 22" barrel, a button mag and a shotgun butt with steel buttplate and a fluted comb. Production began in 1924 and ceased in 1932. Some guns continued to be assembled from parts on hand up until 1941, although the final four years saw only a dozen or less built each year. The calibers were 25-20, 32-20, and 44-40. Just over 15 thousand were made in total, making the Model 53 one of the rarer Winchester models.
The Model 65: The Model 65 still used the Model 1892/92 receiver. The standard configuration, however, was with a 22" barrel (24" for the 218 Bee), a button mag, steel buttplate and sharply curved pistol grip and hooded front sight. The calibers were 25-20, 32-20, and 218 Bee. The new, flat shooting 218 Bee was the most popular of the calibers and almost half of all Model 65's made were in this new caliber. Production ran from 1933 to 1942, with a few guns assembled from parts after that. The total number of Model 65's made was only 5,717 guns, making it one of the rarest Winchester models produced.
Shown below are two photos illustrating the three members of the Model 1892 action family. On the bottom is a Winchester Model 1892 in standard configuration except for the octagon barrel. Caliber is 44-40 and this particular rifle was made in 1914 according to Winchester factory polishing room records (where the receivers were serialized). The middle rifle is a Winchester Model 53 in standard configuration. This particular rifle is a first year gun of 1924 and is in 25-20 caliber. The top rifle is a Winchester Model 65 in standard configuration, 32-20 caliber. It was made around 1941 or 1942.
The Model 1892: The Winchester Model 1892 began production in 1892 and continued until 1941. The calibers were 25 WCF (25-20), 32 WCF (32-20), 38 WCF (38-40), and 44 WCF (44-40). It was available in both rifle and carbine configuration. Later on in production, around 1919 or 1920, it was designated as the Model 92. A total of just over one million Model 1892/92 guns were made.
The Model 53: The Model 53 was a lighter version of the Model 1892/92, with standard configuration having a light 22" barrel, a button mag and a shotgun butt with steel buttplate and a fluted comb. Production began in 1924 and ceased in 1932. Some guns continued to be assembled from parts on hand up until 1941, although the final four years saw only a dozen or less built each year. The calibers were 25-20, 32-20, and 44-40. Just over 15 thousand were made in total, making the Model 53 one of the rarer Winchester models.
The Model 65: The Model 65 still used the Model 1892/92 receiver. The standard configuration, however, was with a 22" barrel (24" for the 218 Bee), a button mag, steel buttplate and sharply curved pistol grip and hooded front sight. The calibers were 25-20, 32-20, and 218 Bee. The new, flat shooting 218 Bee was the most popular of the calibers and almost half of all Model 65's made were in this new caliber. Production ran from 1933 to 1942, with a few guns assembled from parts after that. The total number of Model 65's made was only 5,717 guns, making it one of the rarest Winchester models produced.
Shown below are two photos illustrating the three members of the Model 1892 action family. On the bottom is a Winchester Model 1892 in standard configuration except for the octagon barrel. Caliber is 44-40 and this particular rifle was made in 1914 according to Winchester factory polishing room records (where the receivers were serialized). The middle rifle is a Winchester Model 53 in standard configuration. This particular rifle is a first year gun of 1924 and is in 25-20 caliber. The top rifle is a Winchester Model 65 in standard configuration, 32-20 caliber. It was made around 1941 or 1942.
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cedars and a magnificent Whitetail buck framed in the semi-buckhorn sights of a 120-year old Winchester.
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always a pleasure to read your posts. Beautiful rifles. wonderful information. Great start to the winchester museum north.
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Re: The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
Stop please . You are killing me. 1886.
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Cheers: Another great post!
Jeers: No drool warning...
Seriously, thanks for the great info!
Jeers: No drool warning...
Seriously, thanks for the great info!
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I sure wish I had been doing 35 years ago---what is impossible to do now. Grab a few nice model 1892 Wins when they wern't sought after by every gun guy on the planet. Oh well, life is hard.
To hell with them fellas, buzzards gotta eat same as the worms.
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Re: The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
Your M-53 is the same configuration my 1906 M1892 in .32-20 had, except for my 24" RB.
I would opine that Winchester got enough special orders for a button mag model, that they eventually made them as the M53 in regular production.
Sets rock !
I would opine that Winchester got enough special orders for a button mag model, that they eventually made them as the M53 in regular production.
Sets rock !
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Re: The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
Hey Kirk, I didn't think about it sooner when you said you were going to send me that '92 that you needed my address. PM me and I'll send it to you.
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I sure wish I had a warehouse full that I could send to everyone!kimwcook wrote:Hey Kirk, I didn't think about it sooner when you said you were going to send me that '92 that you needed my address. PM me and I'll send it to you.
Kirk: An old geezer who loves the smell of freshly turned earth, old cedar rail fences, wood smoke, a crackling fireplace on a snowy evening, pristine wilderness lakes, the scent of
cedars and a magnificent Whitetail buck framed in the semi-buckhorn sights of a 120-year old Winchester.
Blog: https://www.kirkdurston.com/
cedars and a magnificent Whitetail buck framed in the semi-buckhorn sights of a 120-year old Winchester.
Blog: https://www.kirkdurston.com/
Re: The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
Nice pics and good info. The Model 53 was also offered in a take-down version. I have one that has been in our family since the 1930's. It is a 25-20 with s/n 3xxx. There is a litttle "26" stamped near the s/n which could mean 1926 I guess. However, the Ned Schwing Winchester Pocket Guide claims that 53's are "...serially numbered concurrently with the Model 92". Maybe takedowns were serialed differently?
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Kaschi, you're right about the takedown option for the '53's. I've seen several takedown 53's. Your serial number indicates it was made in 1925. That '26' is probably an inspector's stamp. The Model 53's had their own serial range, but a few were numbered in the '92 range. Your serial number is definitely in the Model 53 range (the second year serial numbers ended around 4350). Mine's a one piece and its serial number is 1494. Madis indicates this is an early second year serial number, but actual polishing room records indicate that this was a first year gun.
Kirk: An old geezer who loves the smell of freshly turned earth, old cedar rail fences, wood smoke, a crackling fireplace on a snowy evening, pristine wilderness lakes, the scent of
cedars and a magnificent Whitetail buck framed in the semi-buckhorn sights of a 120-year old Winchester.
Blog: https://www.kirkdurston.com/
cedars and a magnificent Whitetail buck framed in the semi-buckhorn sights of a 120-year old Winchester.
Blog: https://www.kirkdurston.com/
Re: The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
GREEN WITH ENVY...BEAUTIES
LETS GO SHOOT'N BOYS
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Green with envy is right. Kirk always seems to come up with the nicest pieces. Dog gone Canook, Eh.
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Gorgeous Rifles - You are fortunate indeed
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+11886 wrote:Stop please . You are killing me. 1886.
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Re: The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
Great Pictures - reminds me that I have to start saving my $$ again for another 92 or something similar
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Re: The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
You do, in the form of the calendar. I await nirvana...KirkD wrote:I sure wish I had a warehouse full that I could send to everyone!kimwcook wrote:Hey Kirk, I didn't think about it sooner when you said you were going to send me that '92 that you needed my address. PM me and I'll send it to you.
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Another reason why Kirk is our resident "Desktop Artiste" - and historian!!!
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Beautiful.
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+1RIHMFIRE wrote:GREEN WITH ENVY...BEAUTIES
Great post.
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Handsome rifles and wonderful photography! You have a wealth of knowledge and impeccable taste...
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Re: The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
Kirk, Those are absolutley GORGEOUS!!!!
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Re: The '92 action and three classic Winchester Models (Photos)
Good post and great pics as always Kirk! Put me on the list when you go sending out those 92's....Steve.