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Colt Question
I know this is a lever gun group but there are lots that collect other stuff also.
I don't own any older Colt revolvers but have always wanted a model 1877 Thunderer or possibly a Lightning. Are there any groups out there with buy/sell pages or other places I can look. I have been looking at Gunbroker and there are a few on there but not quite what I'm looking for.
I am mostly just looking for groups where I can see and possibly purchase something like that.
Thanks.
I don't own any older Colt revolvers but have always wanted a model 1877 Thunderer or possibly a Lightning. Are there any groups out there with buy/sell pages or other places I can look. I have been looking at Gunbroker and there are a few on there but not quite what I'm looking for.
I am mostly just looking for groups where I can see and possibly purchase something like that.
Thanks.
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Six-gun is the guy to ask, he probably has a safe full...
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+1 on the Colt Forum. You should have caught me about a month ago. Had a really nice 1877 in .41 but I sold it.
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Always a day late and a dollar short.M. M. Wright wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:10 pm +1 on the Colt Forum. You should have caught me about a month ago. Had a really nice 1877 in .41 but I sold it.
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No doubt about that. Maybe he’ll just adopt me.gamekeeper wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:34 pm Six-gun is the guy to ask, he probably has a safe full...
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Unless your mechanically inclined stay away from these guns......even if you luck onto a fine example it won't be fine if you start shooting it to any degree......I've had em and in the few I've had, I had a beauty in 41 that looked like it was used for one box of ammo......after just a hundred or so rounds the original springs weakened.....I buy a spring kit and put in and it was fine for several hundred more rounds until I figured I better sell it before it came apart.....I sold it.
These guns are a PITA to load for....if you want to do it right you need a hollow base mould with blackpowder a MUST. Why? These guns are old with thin cylinders so you can't put enough smokeless in them to expand the base so it will shoot accurately ...that's why BP is a must, it expands the base and has low pressures for the thin walled cylinder.......with a single action Colt or an Army Special in the 41 or 38 you have more of a margin of safety for smokeless.
Brass is a PITA as it's considerably more expensive that regular brass as are dies. ......weak design and fragile these guns are and I know pretty much what I'm doing.....it takes a real gunsmith to work on them for timing etc....If I remember right, the locking notches are on the back of the cylinder.
(I never was a fan of BP considering it more of a PITA than what's it's worth but that's me)
If you just want to look at one and not shoot it go ahead...that's your business...I like to shoot em.
Now you know why these guns bring a fraction of the money a single action does.....
Funny thing.....the Colt Lightning rifle got a bad rap for mechanics because of the Lightning revolver. You can shoot the rifles until the cows come home with little to zero issues. As you know the Thunderer is the same gun but in 41
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These guns are a PITA to load for....if you want to do it right you need a hollow base mould with blackpowder a MUST. Why? These guns are old with thin cylinders so you can't put enough smokeless in them to expand the base so it will shoot accurately ...that's why BP is a must, it expands the base and has low pressures for the thin walled cylinder.......with a single action Colt or an Army Special in the 41 or 38 you have more of a margin of safety for smokeless.
Brass is a PITA as it's considerably more expensive that regular brass as are dies. ......weak design and fragile these guns are and I know pretty much what I'm doing.....it takes a real gunsmith to work on them for timing etc....If I remember right, the locking notches are on the back of the cylinder.
(I never was a fan of BP considering it more of a PITA than what's it's worth but that's me)
If you just want to look at one and not shoot it go ahead...that's your business...I like to shoot em.
Now you know why these guns bring a fraction of the money a single action does.....
Funny thing.....the Colt Lightning rifle got a bad rap for mechanics because of the Lightning revolver. You can shoot the rifles until the cows come home with little to zero issues. As you know the Thunderer is the same gun but in 41
Hate to be a bummer but I call a spade a spade.-----6
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Thanks for the input. I know they are notorious for being a real pain in the butt mechanically. I have always wanted one though if I could find the right one at the right price.Sixgun wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:52 am Unless your mechanically inclined stay away from these guns......even if you luck onto a fine example it won't be fine if you start shooting it to any degree......I've had em and in the few I've had, I had a beauty in 41 that looked like it was used for one box of ammo......after just a hundred or so rounds the original springs weakened.....I buy a spring kit and put in and it was fine for several hundred more rounds until I figured I better sell it before it came apart.....I sold it.
These guns are a PITA to load for....if you want to do it right you need a hollow base mould with blackpowder a MUST. Why? These guns are old with thin cylinders so you can't put enough smokeless in them to expand the base so it will shoot accurately ...that's why BP is a must, it expands the base and has low pressures for the thin walled cylinder.......with a single action Colt or an Army Special in the 41 or 38 you have more of a margin of safety for smokeless.
Brass is a PITA as it's considerably more expensive that regular brass as are dies. ......weak design and fragile these guns are and I know pretty much what I'm doing.....it takes a real gunsmith to work on them for timing etc....If I remember right, the locking notches are on the back of the cylinder.
(I never was a fan of BP considering it more of a PITA than what's it's worth but that's me)
If you just want to look at one and not shoot it go ahead...that's your business...I like to shoot em.
Now you know why these guns bring a fraction of the money a single action does.....
Funny thing.....the Colt Lightning rifle got a bad rap for mechanics because of the Lightning revolver. You can shoot the rifles until the cows come home with little to zero issues. As you know the Thunderer is the same gun but in 41
Hate to be a bummer but I call a spade a spade.-----6
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Rube,
I was telling you the negatives of the 1877 Colt.......on the positive side they are cool and full of history......don't let my negativity keep you from your quest of acquiring a cool gun........just don't think your going to have a gun that you can shoot until the cows come home like you can with a single action. ---6
I was telling you the negatives of the 1877 Colt.......on the positive side they are cool and full of history......don't let my negativity keep you from your quest of acquiring a cool gun........just don't think your going to have a gun that you can shoot until the cows come home like you can with a single action. ---6
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Sixgun wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:47 am Rube,
I was telling you the negatives of the 1877 Colt.......on the positive side they are cool and full of history......don't let my negativity keep you from your quest of acquiring a cool gun........just don't think your going to have a gun that you can shoot until the cows come home like you can with a single action. ---6
Totally understand. I always enjoy your insight. I know you have the experience with what you're talking about.
I really have always wanted one since I was a kid and seen Young Guns 1 and 2 and learned about guys like Billy The Kid, John Wesley Hardin and others using them.