Winchester 1873 dimensions?
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Winchester 1873 dimensions?
Hi all,
I'm in the process of trying to accurately model a Winchester 1873 carbine so that I can attempt building one from scratch. Finding measured drawings for the parts has been basically impossible. Since I don't have access to a real one to take measurements from, I've been using screen calipers and various pics from the internet with varying results....
I'm active on other forums and a fellow member suggested I give this site a shot.
So - is there anyone here who access to an original Winchester 1873 that would be willing to grab a few (accurate) measurements for me??? I'm just looking for caliper accuracy measurements of the following features (although measurements of additional features would be great as well):
* Width and Length of Carrier Block
* Width and Length of carrier block pocket in receiver
* Distance from rear of carrier block pocket to center of spring retainer screws on bottom of receiver
* Width of Receiver at carrier block
* Width of Finger Lever (at receiver)
* Width of bottom strap (just measured at bottom of receiver)
* Width of Hammer
* Width and length of hammer pocket in receiver
* Width of Trigger at receiver
* Diameter of Breech Pin (where it extends from the receiver and is hit by the hammer)
Hopefully those should all be quick and shouldn't require any disassembly.
If you want to go overboard you could include the following:
* Diameter of Breech Bolt nose
* Distance between holes in the link pins
Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me out on this!
I'm in the process of trying to accurately model a Winchester 1873 carbine so that I can attempt building one from scratch. Finding measured drawings for the parts has been basically impossible. Since I don't have access to a real one to take measurements from, I've been using screen calipers and various pics from the internet with varying results....
I'm active on other forums and a fellow member suggested I give this site a shot.
So - is there anyone here who access to an original Winchester 1873 that would be willing to grab a few (accurate) measurements for me??? I'm just looking for caliper accuracy measurements of the following features (although measurements of additional features would be great as well):
* Width and Length of Carrier Block
* Width and Length of carrier block pocket in receiver
* Distance from rear of carrier block pocket to center of spring retainer screws on bottom of receiver
* Width of Receiver at carrier block
* Width of Finger Lever (at receiver)
* Width of bottom strap (just measured at bottom of receiver)
* Width of Hammer
* Width and length of hammer pocket in receiver
* Width of Trigger at receiver
* Diameter of Breech Pin (where it extends from the receiver and is hit by the hammer)
Hopefully those should all be quick and shouldn't require any disassembly.
If you want to go overboard you could include the following:
* Diameter of Breech Bolt nose
* Distance between holes in the link pins
Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me out on this!
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Re: Winchester 1873 dimensions?
Welcome to a great place for levergun knowledge. There was two people here on this forum that made full scale shooting rifles. I think one of them was Charlie and I believe the other one went by Alpha Wolf. Do a history search here and you should get the articles.
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Re: Winchester 1873 dimensions?
I can get you these measurements. May be a couple days getting to it, though.
"Oh bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
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Re: Winchester 1873 dimensions?
No prob. I will try tomorrow.
"Oh bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
Re: Winchester 1873 dimensions?
Ok.kizmit99 wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:52 pm Hi all,
I'm in the process of trying to accurately model a Winchester 1873 carbine so that I can attempt building one from scratch. Finding measured drawings for the parts has been basically impossible. Since I don't have access to a real one to take measurements from, I've been using screen calipers and various pics from the internet with varying results....
I'm active on other forums and a fellow member suggested I give this site a shot.
So - is there anyone here who access to an original Winchester 1873 that would be willing to grab a few (accurate) measurements for me??? I'm just looking for caliper accuracy measurements of the following features (although measurements of additional features would be great as well):
* Width and Length of Carrier Block
* Width and Length of carrier block pocket in receiver
* Distance from rear of carrier block pocket to center of spring retainer screws on bottom of receiver
* Width of Receiver at carrier block
* Width of Finger Lever (at receiver)
* Width of bottom strap (just measured at bottom of receiver)
* Width of Hammer
* Width and length of hammer pocket in receiver
* Width of Trigger at receiver
* Diameter of Breech Pin (where it extends from the receiver and is hit by the hammer)
Hopefully those should all be quick and shouldn't require any disassembly.
If you want to go overboard you could include the following:
* Diameter of Breech Bolt nose
* Distance between holes in the link pins
Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help me out on this!
All except the toggle dimensions are from a 3rd model
.44 I had in parts. The toggle dimensions are from another 3rd model .44, but close in number.
Measured with a set of Starrett 120s.
In the order of your list.
1. 1.605 x .748
2. 1.630 x .756
3. .425
4. 1.055
5. .332 inside. .437 outside width
6. .692 width of lower tang I assume you wanted?
7. .375
8. 1.825 x .390
9. .375
10. .345
11. .520
12. 2.265 between front and rear pins at lockup.
1.220 between front and center hinge point at
lockup.
Good Luck!
"Oh bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
Re: Winchester 1873 dimensions?
Thanks so much for taking the time to get those measurements for me!
They should be a huge help in getting my model working. After that, hopefully, I'll start cutting metal.
Thanks again!
They should be a huge help in getting my model working. After that, hopefully, I'll start cutting metal.
Thanks again!
Re: Winchester 1873 dimensions?
You're very welcome. Let me know if you need something else.
Good luck with your project.
Good luck with your project.
"Oh bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.
Re: Winchester 1873 dimensions?
Kizmutt99,
Were you able to find all of the dimensions to model the action? I'm currently trying to do the same and am having a lot of trouble finding everything.
Were you able to find all of the dimensions to model the action? I'm currently trying to do the same and am having a lot of trouble finding everything.
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Re: Winchester 1873 dimensions?
I'm not sure if I have this right....you want to build a 1873 from scratch? A real working model? From steel?
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Re: Winchester 1873 dimensions?
The book "Winchester Lever Action Repeating Firearms" Volume 1 by Arthur Pirkle has majority of the dimensions you require.
I did build an 1873 in .22lr but I cheated on the extractor so it would need some rework to get it to function reliably.. I use a scratch built Marlin 1892 repeating .22 levergun in 3 matches.. And this year I will use my scratchbuilt Marlin 1889 levergun in .25-20 for another 1/2 scale silhouette match... There is a lot of satisfaction in using firearms that you yourself have machined from solid steel. I have other homebuilt guns that I compete with plus some others that I resurrected from the scrap bin.... It is a combination of hobbies... Super easy and fast to just buy a firearm - and I do buy a new gun 'bout every other month- but the greater fun is in doing the work yourself.
I did build an 1873 in .22lr but I cheated on the extractor so it would need some rework to get it to function reliably.. I use a scratch built Marlin 1892 repeating .22 levergun in 3 matches.. And this year I will use my scratchbuilt Marlin 1889 levergun in .25-20 for another 1/2 scale silhouette match... There is a lot of satisfaction in using firearms that you yourself have machined from solid steel. I have other homebuilt guns that I compete with plus some others that I resurrected from the scrap bin.... It is a combination of hobbies... Super easy and fast to just buy a firearm - and I do buy a new gun 'bout every other month- but the greater fun is in doing the work yourself.
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Yes I do Sixgun, I've found a lot of info about building different firearms and I'd like to try doing one myself. Thanks for the book suggestion Alphawolf!