Making change
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Making change
A bit of mirth, and a bit a sadness. I went to my local farm store, made a purchase of $4.27. I gave the nice young lady at the counter a 5.00 bill. She picked it up and I said, oh, I've got .27 change here in my pocket and laid it on the counter. That made it $5.27. She looked at me in bewilderment and said nothing, smiling, long pause. I said " that's $5.27 and you need $4.27. A pause, and she said smiling "I'm still in school". I said," five minus four is"..........pause, waiting on a response, "five minus four is".......pause." "50" she says????" I say, "no, five minus four is not 50. Five minus four is ONE." "Oh.... yea," she says. Long pause. I said, "you owe me a dollar". "Oh, OK"... ! I smiled and said, "you might need less of this," (acting like I was using my cell phone)," and more of this," pointing to my head). "Uh, huh" she said, smiling. I said "you keep working on those math problems ok?" and left shaking my head.
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It's terrible to see what our educational system is turning out today. I went thru a drive thru one time after there had been a power outage. When the power came back on the computers didn't boot up right so when I went thru the line it came time to pay for my order and they said no charge. We don't know how to figure out how much it is. Just take it and go.
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Yep, the sickness has worked it's way down to small business'.
Many years ago, young folks prime job prospects (fast food outlets) went to a computer system for their cash registers that keeps youngsters from getting their brains all twisted up - a cashier has only to enter whatever amount the customer lays on the counter (sic), and (VOILA ! ), the computer displays whatever change the customer should get.
Whatever the computation system cost the National chain, I'm guessin' that it was cheaper than the monetary losses by confused youngsters.
Sad.......................................
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Yep, the sickness has worked it's way down to small business'.
Many years ago, young folks prime job prospects (fast food outlets) went to a computer system for their cash registers that keeps youngsters from getting their brains all twisted up - a cashier has only to enter whatever amount the customer lays on the counter (sic), and (VOILA ! ), the computer displays whatever change the customer should get.
Whatever the computation system cost the National chain, I'm guessin' that it was cheaper than the monetary losses by confused youngsters.
Sad.......................................
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Very sad...
30 years ago (hard for me to say that) I worked at a theater. We had a guy come in and try to run a scam on the young girl working the cash register at the concession stand. She got confused fast - just what this guy wanted. Unfortunately for him, I was close by and came over to intercede. He tried his best to run his scam on me, but fortunately, I had mastered basic math over a decade before! I just let him keep rambling, then corrected him. After 5 minutes he realized he wasn't going to make anything off us and stormed out.
30 years ago (hard for me to say that) I worked at a theater. We had a guy come in and try to run a scam on the young girl working the cash register at the concession stand. She got confused fast - just what this guy wanted. Unfortunately for him, I was close by and came over to intercede. He tried his best to run his scam on me, but fortunately, I had mastered basic math over a decade before! I just let him keep rambling, then corrected him. After 5 minutes he realized he wasn't going to make anything off us and stormed out.
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Most can't count back change.Better yet most youngsters won't get those jobs because they think
They are to good for that.The employers don't hire them because they screw around, then hire illegal
Aliens because they show up every day and are happy to work.How this gets fixed beats me!
They are to good for that.The employers don't hire them because they screw around, then hire illegal
Aliens because they show up every day and are happy to work.How this gets fixed beats me!
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My daughter is 22 and she didn't learn how to count money in school. Instead they taught her to estimate. I tried helping her one day with estimating and kept giving the right answer but it was wrong because they wanted it to only be somewhat close.
My wife and I went through McD's once on vacation and I gave the cashier a hundred dollar bill because it was all I had on me. When he handed me the change I gave it a quick glance and it looked like it was right. After we made it to the hotel that night I pulled the wad out and counted it and the kid gave me 101 and some change back. That was with a computer telling them what my change was supposed to be. Kids just aren't taught how to use there own brains any longer at school.
My wife and I went through McD's once on vacation and I gave the cashier a hundred dollar bill because it was all I had on me. When he handed me the change I gave it a quick glance and it looked like it was right. After we made it to the hotel that night I pulled the wad out and counted it and the kid gave me 101 and some change back. That was with a computer telling them what my change was supposed to be. Kids just aren't taught how to use there own brains any longer at school.
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You're right there....75% (at least) of our new hires don't show up for work (without even calling) at least once during the first two weeks.m.wun wrote:Most can't count back change.Better yet most youngsters won't get those jobs because they think
They are to good for that.The employers don't hire them because they screw around, then hire illegal
Aliens because they show up every day and are happy to work.How this gets fixed beats me!
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Re: Making change
Hmmm, that's troubling. I worked at a hardware store where we did checkout with a carbon receipt pad. Some folks used a calculator for tax, most of us didn't. Also, this wasn't that long ago.
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And these are the folks that believe they are owed $15 an hour.
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My three boys are now in their 30's. I told them each the same thing my Dad told me about showing up on time, smiling at the boss and customers, not complaining, and doing the WHOLE job every time. #2 took a little longer getting with the program but eventually he figured it out too. They never had trouble finding jobs in High School or college despite tough job markets, and never ended up working for the same money they started at. The two that went to college also found jobs right after graduating despite all the stories about no jobs for grads. Maybe because they already had resumes with work on them.
At least the little girl who couldn't make change was out there trying. Hopefully someone will coach her along and help her find her place. I worry about what my grandkids will have to deal with and wish I had the time to home school all of them.
At least the little girl who couldn't make change was out there trying. Hopefully someone will coach her along and help her find her place. I worry about what my grandkids will have to deal with and wish I had the time to home school all of them.
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Re: Making change
Used to survey for a living! One day the superintendent asked me a question and I pulled out my pencil and paper to do the math, my helper who was trying to climb the ladder , stepping on people along the way, pulled out his calculator to solve the problem. We came up with the answer about the same time, even though I had had a slight head start. He proudly says that this, pointing to the calculator, was faster. I help up my pencil and proudly said, " The batteries never go dead on this" !
Always used a calculator to save time on bigger problems that I don't want to spend the time with paper and pencil.
Amazes me how the school system churns out so many people who are not equipped to live life without the helping handouts of the gubermit.
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Always used a calculator to save time on bigger problems that I don't want to spend the time with paper and pencil.
Amazes me how the school system churns out so many people who are not equipped to live life without the helping handouts of the gubermit.
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Re: Making change
Oklahoma has a vacational/technical school system that high schoolers may elect to attend. One of the courses is for check-out clerks. The main thing they are taught is how to COUNT BACK the customer's change so they end up with the amount tendered. When I get my change counted back I ask the clerk if they went to Vo-Tech, (now it's just called Tech). Usually it's yes.
As a college professor I knew that Vo-Tech grads were more successful in college and more of them graduated college. I like to think it's because of students having a trade so they could earn a living while in school.
As a college professor I knew that Vo-Tech grads were more successful in college and more of them graduated college. I like to think it's because of students having a trade so they could earn a living while in school.
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Well, who's runnin' 'em? When I worked for the guvmint, I was always be advised to "...vote for this..." Why, I'd ask, all it'll do is raise my taxes... Their answer was invariably, "...we're comin' up for a raise, it don't pass, we won't get it." Maybe I was stupid, I never voted thinkin' I might get a raise outta the deal.Bronco wrote:Amazes me how the school system churns out so many people who are not equipped to live life without the helping handouts of the gubermit.
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Re: Making change
As a retired guvmint worker, I also had to swim upstream, or fight my way up. Quite a number of arguments over political stuff. Seems a conservative Republican didn't mesh well with their union ideals.Griff wrote:Well, who's runnin' 'em? When I worked for the guvmint, I was always be advised to "...vote for this..." Why, I'd ask, all it'll do is raise my taxes... Their answer was invariably, "...we're comin' up for a raise, it don't pass, we won't get it." Maybe I was stupid, I never voted thinkin' I might get a raise outta the deal.Bronco wrote:Amazes me how the school system churns out so many people who are not equipped to live life without the helping handouts of the gubermit.
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On an opposite side of this thread, here in local town there are two stores we frequent that the kids are sharp as tacks. One is an ACE Hardware store. Their checkers, usually young ladies, are sharp and personable. I have done the dollar+change thing and always without hesitation gotten the correct change back.
The other is In-and-Out Burger. They hire only students that have exception grades and have good citizenship marks. I can tell you that at least on 90+% of them it shows too. They are sharp, friendly and fast with the numbers. Others places around town, it's hit or miss.
It is a very sad situation. I do not blame our schools, at least not entirely. When you have a society that thinks the school is responsible for raising their kids, we cannot be too disappointed with the outcome.
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Re: Making change
Kids nowadays don't need to think, they a "smart-phone" that does it for them - calculate math problems, give them answers to every problem via Google. Thinking and learning is a waste of time to many youths today. Take away their smart-phones and you're taking away their brains. Jobs have become a necessary evil not something to enjoy and excel at.
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I could always do simple math in my head. It's not a horrible idea to estimate the answer when you DO use a calculator....it's so easy to input the wrong numbers, or hit the wrong keys.....When I did retail, or restaurant work, we had a little chart for the tax.....Of course, 5% was pretty easy.
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Re: Making change
And... see if they can tell time without a digital clock.
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It just aint the kids.... Shoot...My ATM gits it wrong now & then and gives me an extra $20
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I had that happen once... silly me, I went in to the lobby and tried to give it back. They didn't want itBen_Rumson wrote:It just aint the kids.... Shoot...My ATM gits it wrong now & then and gives me an extra $20
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Re: Making change
BlaineG wrote:..Of course, 5% was pretty easy.
The "good 'ol days", 5% I remember that.
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Re: Making change
It ain't just math. Not much stress on typing skills.
What do they teach in "vacational" school? lol
What do they teach in "vacational" school? lol
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Re: Making change
Would you be givin' out the location of that ATM to your friends here???Ben_Rumson wrote:It just aint the kids.... Shoot...My ATM gits it wrong now & then and gives me an extra $20
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Another one: I went to the Post Office the other day to get some money orders. (yea, I know, kinda old school). It came out to just under $100. I already had a bunch of change in my pocket, so I gave the teller enough change so I'd get a dollar back. She entered it into her computer as $100 and say, 69 cents. (I can't remember just how much it was.) She looked at her computer and it had no idea what to do with it. She tried again, no luck. I finally said, "never mind" and picked up my change. She rang it through as $100, and bingo, it went right through!!! Gave me the change due I didn't really want. I told her is must have been programed by a twenty something, she agreed and I went on my way, again shaking my head.
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I just talked to my neighbor lady this evening. A kid that's married to her granddaughter and has three kids, FINALLY got a job helping lay tile. (his friend actually got him the job.) The first morning he was supposed to go to work, he overslept and never went in.AJMD429 wrote:You're right there....75% (at least) of our new hires don't show up for work (without even calling) at least once during the first two weeks.m.wun wrote:Most can't count back change.Better yet most youngsters won't get those jobs because they think
They are to good for that.The employers don't hire them because they screw around, then hire illegal
Aliens because they show up every day and are happy to work.How this gets fixed beats me!
I'm having a hard time grumping about Latino's, they always come to work, work hard, and are grateful to do it. These wussey kids nowdays don't know HOW to work, thanks to doting parents, and a guvmint that won't let them do anything for fear something might happen to them. How did we ever make it through our youth????