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Here is the five shot group I shot yesterday. I only shot the one.
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Here is the only other five-shot group I've done with this carbine at 100 yards (different crosshairs setting). Four shots into 5/8" and the flyer extending it to 1 & 9/16.
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I don't know for sure, but I bought this box within the past year.EdinCT wrote: Is Hornady still making the flat points in .308?
You are right, Jerry. 'Old Savage', my Winchester Carbine, is still my 'working gun' of choice. It is lighter, more compact without a scope, and has iron sights, which I find preferable at short to medium ranges. Imagine waking up in a tent at night with a bear or a couple 150 pound Timber Wolves checking me out in the pitch dark. I find it easier to 'barrel-aim' a rifle in close up work when a scope or sights are either useless or there is no time, and have done it many times with remarkable success in putting animals down or taking care of Groundhogs when they pop out of their hole a few feet away and I cannot raise the rifle to my shoulder without scaring them. A scope, on the other hand, throws me off when barrel aiming with the rifle half way up the side of the chest, rather than on the shoulder.JerryB wrote:Kirk, I don't care if it is a Marlin, that is a fine looking rifle. Although I can't see it replacing 'OL Savage Sam as the camp rifle on those long canoe trips.
KirkD, when I started loading for my 30A, I didn't know any better and sized all my boolits to .308. Never had an issue with leading or keyholing. One of my loads was a Lee 113gr Soupcan, with a max load of 3031 meant for a 110gr RN jacketed Hornady. It grouped around 2" at 100 yards. There was absolutely no leading. Even my squirrels loads that were only doing 900fps or so never leaded. So it was a surprise to me when I found out micro-groove wasn't good for cast unles kept below 1600fps according to Lyman manuals. I tried loading a jacketed .312 HP in my 30/30 but would not chamber in my current M94. So will probably have to size down to .309.KirkD wrote:The scope is definitely not a Leopold. It does, however, hold its zero in about 40 or 50 rounds of shooting. It is not bad with cast bullets at 100 yards, but they are sized to .309. I'll be getting a sizer for .312 which, according to others, will do the trick with the micro groove rifling.