M92 ideas

[92&94]

One thing I would like to change about the Rossi M92 I have is that long forend. Seems like the original Winchesters had much more pleasing proportions of barrel length to forend length.

Trouble is, of course, that there is the forend tenon in there, it would have to be relocated and the original dovetail filled. I've seen rifles with two magazine rings before, so that is one option I'm considering, assuming that I can find a repro that will fit nicely, since I hear that Rossi won't sell parts. Could also just fill it with a blued plug like you would a sight dovetail.

The other question is the forend length. I figure about 9" or a little more would look right on either a 20" (mine) or 24" rifle.

levers.JPG

[Malamute]

It sounds like a rifle, not a carbine, is that correct? (That was answered after I logged in and saw the picture,....)

I believe the standard rifles, which was most often 24" in 92's and 26" in 94's, had a forend that was 9 3/8" long, and often (but not always) short rifles had a forend that was 1" shorter, or 8 3/8".

Yours looks longer than normal, and I'd agree, proportionally too long.

[AJMD429]

I just write it off as their individual gun 'personalities' and don't mind the differences. However if one looks at the Rossi as a 'copy' of the Winchester, then of course it is disturbing where it differs.

Mostly, I find myself disliking almost ALL the two-piece levergun stocks for the way their forend is mounted, and it is so often torture to try to remove then reinstall them, if you get your gun out in the rain or mud.

[92&94]

Thanks for the lengths, that will help. I believe I'm going to go with the shorter one.

The wood on that rifle is so badly done that I figure as long as I'm replacing it I may as well fix the forend length too. I'm considering making the forend easier to remove as well. The obvious drawback to doing it is durability - there would only be 1/8" or so rabbet at each end holding it in - without it wrapping around the magazine tube a good hard knock could pop it out.

On the other hand, you may have a point Doc. If I fix the forend length, the lack of taper to the octagonal barrel may bug me

[Griff]

I believe that Malamute is right, tho' I don't have at hand to meaure. My EMF/Rossi Short Rifle (20") appears more proportioned.

Then again, maybe not!

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

One thing I would like to change about the Rossi M92 I have is that long forend. Seems like the original Winchesters had much more pleasing proportions of barrel length to forend length.

Trouble is, of course, that there is the forend tenon in there, it would have to be relocated and the original dovetail filled. I've seen rifles with two magazine rings before, so that is one option I'm considering, assuming that I can find a repro that will fit nicely, since I hear that Rossi won't sell parts. Could also just fill it with a blued plug like you would a sight dovetail.

The other question is the forend length. I figure about 9" or a little more would look right on either a 20" (mine) or 24" rifle.

levers.JPG

I agree,
The Rossi octagon forends are roughly 1 1/8" longer than the original Win 92 and 94. The 24" Rossi it doesn't seem to out of proportion. But, Rossi uses the same 10 1/2" forewood on the 20" octagon as well.
Here is a 20" stainless octagon Rossi that the customer had me set the wood back. he too felt it looked out of proportion.


Being a stainless gun making a blank to fill the old cap tenon was easy.


This one got the whole frontend set back 4" from 20" to 16".

[92&94]

Those do look a lot better.

I think initially I'll just make a plug for the slot and blue it. Still might do the second mag ring too. Chiappa lists parts for their 92, I could probably use one of those.

[Sixgun]

That's a job that is relatively easy but it does take time.....if you want it look right. The hardest part of the job is filing the new slot for the tenon.......if you don't have a milling machine. I don't but I do have a box full of files. I recently finished this job, filling in the tenon. This is on my prototype Marlin. When this rifle wad made, the slot for the tenon was already cut on the barrel. But Marlin used another method for holding the wood on....long story......but the unfilled slot bothered me so I cut a piece of steel from an old Remington barrel and fitted it into the Marlin barrel, using a grinder to get it to within several thousandths, then files and sandpaper to do the final work. I then rust blued the barrel to make it all match.

You will want to use a steel that is similar in composition to your barrel or it may not match when you blue it. That's why I used another barrel.-------6

The slot I filled is about 2" from the forend cap


The old Remington barrel. This is what I use as raw material for doing odd jobs.

[Mescalero]

Very good six,
The CMR of another barrel would be simular enough to accomplish what you did accomplish.

[Malamute]

I vote for a filler in the old dovetail, I think an extra magazine ring would look funny. Winchester used another one on extra long barrels, like 30", but that's all I recall.

Nice job filling that dovetail Six.

[1988rrc]

NKJ
were there any issues with reducing the wood length? much trouble?

[Sixgun]

Thanks guys...Funny thing about doing tedious work....I never could do it until I got around 50. Some guys are craftsman when they are 18, like my b-I-l, he was building dressers and dining room tables for the DuPonts when he was in his twenties. It took me almost 60 years to become 1/4 of a craftsman.----6

[92&94]

That blends right in sixgun, looks great.

Malamute, most I've seen with two rings were those special order long barrels. I did see pics of one with a 26" barrel and two rings. Might look goofy though on a 20".

[Griff]

Good job Sixgun. When I grow up.......

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

NKJ
were there any issues with reducing the wood length? much trouble?

Not too much. I took it off the back end and it reduced it some, too.

[Buck Elliott]

The forearm wood on my Uberti '73 Short Rifle is 8 1/4" long and appears perfectly proportioned..