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First is a Win 73 ,Standard Arms, Then I am going to guess a 94 though could be a 92? no clue on the rabbit eared gun on the end. Nice full bodied deer too!!
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The second rifle is interesting because it looks like nothing else. The others might be hard to identify among a bunch of qualified contenders of similar firearms.
I'll say that the shotgun is a Remington - partly because they were (are still) among the most common of double hammer guns.
But that second one, that's an interesting rifle. Whatever it is. I've never seen anything like it but I'll guess it was an autoloader of some sort.
BrentD wrote:The second rifle is interesting because it looks like nothing else. The others might be hard to identify among a bunch of qualified contenders of similar firearms.
I'll say that the shotgun is a Remington - partly because they were (are still) among the most common of double hammer guns.
But that second one, that's an interesting rifle. Whatever it is. I've never seen anything like it but I'll guess it was an autoloader of some sort.
Yes that is indeed a strange looking one.
I thought it was a pump that someone cut the wood pump forearm real short on at first.
'76, uknown to me but a BAR it could be, most certainly a Winch '94 based on the length of the action and lack of a Marlin bump at the lever, and any of a number of hammered doubles. Could very well be my Sam Holt!
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The hammered double IMO is not identifiable from the pic. It could very well be (the twin of) my 1890s 16ga European made Damascus
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The second rifle is NOT a BAR!
As been stated by a number of folks, a Standard. Specifically, a Standard Model G. (their pump action-only Model M was set up differently forward of the forend)
For those not familiar, the Standard Arms Co was only in business from 1909-1914 and are best known for making this weird gas operated semiauto with a gas cutoff valve to switch over to pump action if the user prefered. The forend and buttplate were both made from cast bronze and the pump action feature was also used instead of a cocking handle to open the action to chamber or unload the piece. Predated the SPAS-12 shotgun that's probably the best known gun working along these lines by decades. Also predated JMB's M1918 BAR by a few years.
'76, uknown to me but a BAR it could be, most certainly a Winch '94 based on the length of the action and lack of a Marlin bump at the lever, and any of a number of hammered doubles. Could very well be my Sam Holt!
For the first rifle, I'm going to guess a Winchester '73, based on how far the metal of the receiver extends down the wrist of the stock. By comparison, a '76 receiver hardly extends at all. My vote for the third rifle would be a Winchester '94, seeing how straight the line of the bottom of the receiver runs.
I'd never heard of the Standard either. The Benelli M3 is similar to the SPAS in the pump-to-work the bolt part and being a selectable semi, though in that case it's a twist-ring not a button.
Molasses wrote:...weird gas operated semiauto with a gas cutoff valve to switch over to pump action if the user prefered.
I'd never heard of that until I saw a Tristar shotgun with that feature. I thought it was a modern innovation!
I wonder how much of an effect switching back and forth would have on bullet placement.
Never crossed my mind to wonder about it. Good question. Temps aren't going to get up to zero here today and the extended forecast shows more of the same kinda temps early next week when I next have off from work. I'll try and get to the range and find out, but it's gonna take a bit of time.
Far as modern innovations go, it's astounding how many things old are new again when you look into 'em. Those folks back when weren't dummies by any means.
Molasses wrote:...weird gas operated semiauto with a gas cutoff valve to switch over to pump action if the user prefered.
I'd never heard of that until I saw a Tristar shotgun with that feature. I thought it was a modern innovation!
I wonder how much of an effect switching back and forth would have on bullet placement.
Never crossed my mind to wonder about it. Good question. Temps aren't going to get up to zero here today and the extended forecast shows more of the same kinda temps early next week when I next have off from work. I'll try and get to the range and find out, but it's gonna take a bit of time.Far as modern innovations go, it's astounding how many things old are new again when you look into 'em. Those folks back when weren't dummies by any means.