Finally pulled the trigger - 1860 Henry Iron (steel) Framed

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Peter M. Eick
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Finally pulled the trigger - 1860 Henry Iron (steel) Framed

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Here she is in 44-40.

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My first mag on paper at 50 yards sitting. I was guessing the windage and was aiming a couple of inches high and right. I definitely need to adjust the sights a bit once I start reloading for it. I sort of walked the rounds in as I was shooting it.

Great gun, I am glad I got it and frankly I have not laughed out loud like that at the range since the first time I shot my Registered Magnum. It was like shooting a big old 22LR in terms of recoil and the "whack" when that slug hit the berm was impressive. Not 45-70 impressive but a lot more satisfying then the 223's going off right next to me.

Well the Midway order is in and now "let the reloading begin".
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Wow.!!!
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Post by kimwcook »

What I can see of the rifle it looks really nice. How about some full length pic's.
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Post by Malamute »

Nice rifle Peter. Having something that is just plain fun to shoot, and means something to you makes it seem even better. I recall you mentioning knowing an old guy that had an original.
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Dang that's pretty! 8)

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Cool
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My son has put in dibs on my 1873 Sporting Rifle... and so... as soon as the CFO releases funds, that's the very same model I'm going to buy. Think it'll fit with my persona and my 1851 Colts better than the '73!

Very nice grouping for actory ammo and first outing.
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Post by Jaguarundi »

Sweet rifle. :D I enjoy my cimarron 1866 Yellowboy in 44spl.
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Post by AndyM »

Very nice - I have always wanted one. You are not helping the matter...
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Post by Peter M. Eick »

Thanks guys.

I was sitting at the 50 trying to find a comfortable position with the big drop on the stock. It is really quite hard to find a good solid setup with the barrel hanging out that far in front. Next time I was thinking about going prone or kneeling and seeing if I could do better.

I need to get the sights were I am not guessing in the windage so much. Then I think I can shoot it better. I dont do the guess windage well. I shot so much bullseye that I would instinctively bring the rifle to bear on my standard 6 o'clock hold and then have to move it high right.

It is sure a great rifle. I don't know why I put it off so long and I am still upset about not getting that original iron framed. I consider that one of my dumbest if not absolute dumbest thing I ever did. The rancher offered to sell me a couple of squares of land and my wife talked me out of it because she did not was concerned about getting into debt for retirement. Today I would nearly have that paid off and be good to go.

All I can say is the Hnry is "fun!".
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Post by John Boy »

Peter, raise the sight up and stretch it out! The 500M Rams are not an issue with the Henry (45 Colt) ...

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Post by Peter M. Eick »

Now that is impressive!

Too bad no where around here does silhouette. Someday when I retire I will have space for a range to have some fun like that. We don't even have gongs around here.
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I've always liked the looks of the Henry.
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Now that's Classy!!!

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Post by ursavus.elemensis »

That's avery nice-looking lever rifle!

I do have a question, though. I've always wondered where one holds that rifle. I know where the trigger hand goes, but what about the other hand? Do you sort of hold the frame of the receiver, or do you just go ahead and hold onto the mag tube?
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Nice rifle. When are you going to start reloading for it?
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"Mister! You ever see what a Henry rifle can do in the hands of somebody who knows how to use it?"

Malcolm Johnson, son of Ezra Johnson, from Silverado
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Gryphon Black wrote:"Mister! You ever see what a Henry rifle can do in the hands of somebody who knows how to use it?"

Malcolm Johnson, son of Ezra Johnson, from Silverado
That was a great line! Too bad that after the "Lethal Weapon" series and Silverado, Danny Glover pretty much wigged out! :(
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ursavus.elemensis

There are a couple of ways to hold a Henry. Most just grab the magazine with the left hand. There are a couple of problems with that. First, the follower has a tab that extends down through a slot in the underside of the magazine. You can see the tab on the underside of the frame in Mr Eick's first photo. You can also see the slot in the underside of the magazine. The tab is used to compress the magazine spring to load the rifle. In operation, as the follower slides backwards after every round is fed, eventually the tab will come in contact with the hand on the magazine. If the tab is blocked from travelling backwards, the rifle ceases feeding. Some guys hold the magazine so the tab will slide right between their fingers. Other guys perfect what is known as the 'Henry Hop'. After firing a few rounds the follower will have advanced enough that they can regrip behind the follower so it can continue down the magazine unimpeded. While they are regripping, the muzzle tends to jump a bit, hence the name.

The other problem with grabbing the magazine/barrel is that if you happen to be firing Black Powder, the steel can heat up a lot. On a hot summer day I keep a glove on my left hand so I don't get burned after firing 10 rounds in a hurry.

I have a steel framed 44-40 Henry identical to Mr Eick's. I grab the rifle right in front of the frame. I also use a little trick called a spacer stick. It is very unusual to load a rifle with more than 10 rounds in Cowboy Action Shooting. My spacer stick takes up the space of about 3 rounds in the magazine. By keeping my hand right at the front of the frame, the spacer stick keeps the follower tab from ever reaching my hand. The spacer stick slides right above my hand as the last rounds feed out of the magazine.

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Here's how I hold it. Must have been a cool day that day.

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When the Model 1866 came out, the side loading gate eliminated the need to compress the magazine spring, so the tab on the follower and the slot on the underside of the mgazine went away. Without the tab sliding along it became simple to put a wooden forestock on the barrel, and the problems of grabbing hot steel went away too.
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Wow! Talk about getting your question answered! I just learned a few things, and I don't even own one :)
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REMEMBER, THEM HENRYS MAKE AWESOME BUFFALO RIFLES TOO.
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Post by .45colt »

Thats a beaut!! If You arn't aware of it there can be a problem with a chain-fire in the mag tube on those rifles. I haven't owned one but have read several posts about it happening. just need a little extra care with reloading ammo.
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You lucky dog....have fun with it
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Post by Peter M. Eick »

I will have to make one of those spacers for the henry. Looks like something even I could make.

Thanks Driftwood!
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Post by ursavus.elemensis »

Thanks for explaining that to me!!! Great info and good pictures to illustrate the points. What a neat rifle! I'd like to someday get one of those to add to my stable of lever rifles.

thanks again.
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very nice rifle,congrats
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Nice looking levergun 8)
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Post by Griff »

Good explaination and with photos to! I've read of thespacer trick, but have always wondered how you kept it from tying up the action after the last round. When I saw that brass pin in yours, my 1st thought was, "what's THAT for?" The next photo answered that question nicely! Thanks.

I've also heard of a "split" foend that can be fitted, but have never seen an example.
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