Good Hog Medicine:

Talk about wide-meplat loads...!

Evidently they Feed OK:

From SnipersHide forum:
http://forum.snipershide.com/snipers-hi ... l-sbr.html
My 77/44 feeds 240 factory and reload, and 265 grain reloads very well. It is of the stainless/synthetic vintage. The 1:20 twist is probably good for the 265 grainers but I normally just use 240's.Rusty wrote:I've been looking really hard at a 77/44 but I was just reading over on graybeard's forums that a member there has been having feeding problems. Now I'm skeered of them.
BlaineG wrote:Is it true that if I went through the hoops to buy a can for my Ruger Scout Rifle, I'd not be able to take it out of state?![]()
However.....[color=#4040FF](link)[/color] [color=#FF0000]>[/color] FirearmsLawGroup wrote:"Individuals wishing to move NFA firearms between states on a temporary basis must abide by two rules. An individual must obtain prior permission from ATF to move machine guns, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns or destructive devices between states. Permission is requested from ATF via ATF Form 5320.20, and is generally approved in a timely manner. Disapproval generally occurs only when the destination state prohibits NFA firearms. Approval from ATF may be for a specific location and period of time, or may be broadly construed to include a number of states, as long as NFA firearms are permitted in each of the listed destination states. Approval for interstate transportation of NFA firearms will generally be granted for a maximum of one year."
I believe the distinguishing issue is "firearm" vs "silencers", so you should be ok. . . ("should be" - i.e. I ain't no lawyer, so you might want to double-check with the ATF...[color=#4040FF](link)[/color] [color=#FF0000]>[/color] Silencer Forum wrote:"Registrants do not have to obtain permission from ATF to move a silencer or “any other weapon” interstate. However, if a registrant’s address for these types of firearms changes after registration with ATF, please notify the NFA Branch in writing of the new address, so the NFRTR can reflect the registrant’s correct address. "
I don't have a 44/45 caliber can, but I do have a Mystic, so threading a 357 Mag or 357 Max would be the easiest way for me to get a 'deer-capable' suppressed firearm legal for Indiana.Rusty wrote:So would you do the 77/44 again?
Are you thinking of putting a can on it?
Perhaps they value their hearing? Or perhaps they don't want to carry something THAT heavy around? If I was afflicted by a hog population, one of those black rifles in .308 cal (or perhaps 6.5 grendel or 6.8spc) and suppressed would likely be my solution.Rusty wrote:I was talking to a LGS owner not not long ago. He said he couldn't understand why everyone was using
suppressed .308 as the go to gun for all this night time hog hunting that seems to be going on. Based on experience shooting hogs and deer with muzzleloaders a .45 or .50 cal will usually drop the animal DRT so why go with a lesser caliber round.
I agree to the extent that to suppress well, a 308 needs subsonic ammo likue any other round, and a big fat chunk of lead going slow is what a 77/44 or 96/44 already throws. A 308's advantage is that it is a skinny chunk of lead but goes fast for a flat trajectory and more energy. You lose that advantage going subsonic. Now if a guy doesn't already have a 308 I CAN see why he'd want one for other reasons.Rusty wrote:But why not put a silencer on a .44 or .45?
Don't think I've ever seen a lever action with a supressor.AJMD429 wrote:I agree to the extent that to suppress well, a 308 needs subsonic ammo likue any other round, and a big fat chunk of lead going slow is what a 77/44 or 96/44 already throws. A 308's advantage is that it is a skinny chunk of lead but goes fast for a flat trajectory and more energy. You lose that advantage going subsonic. Now if a guy doesn't already have a 308 I CAN see why he'd want one for other reasons.Rusty wrote:But why not put a silencer on a .44 or .45?
The original Maxim Suppressor was designed to be used on one (look at the patent application)Familyguy wrote:Don't think I've ever seen a lever action with a supressor.AJMD429 wrote:I agree to the extent that to suppress well, a 308 needs subsonic ammo likue any other round, and a big fat chunk of lead going slow is what a 77/44 or 96/44 already throws. A 308's advantage is that it is a skinny chunk of lead but goes fast for a flat trajectory and more energy. You lose that advantage going subsonic. Now if a guy doesn't already have a 308 I CAN see why he'd want one for other reasons.Rusty wrote:But why not put a silencer on a .44 or .45?
So a quick google search later...
http://www.armoryblog.com/firearms/rifl ... ion-rifle/
Interesting, but I think the AR platform is the path of least resistance.
Best,
Familyguy wrote: Interesting, but I think the AR platform is the path of least resistance.
Then you ain't been to my place as a 'newbie' wanting to learn to shoot; this is the gun I ALWAYS use to start folks out, as it is totally quiet, no recoil, and with the 'heads-up' dot sight, it is easy to HIT the 6" gong at 50 yards 100% of the time, unlike all the "kid's 22's" out there, with their low-to-barrel iron sights, or an optical scope, with its limited eye-relief.Familyguy wrote:Don't think I've ever seen a lever action with a supressor.
Man, ain't that the truth....Old Ironsights wrote:I just can't get past the Graft you have to pay to the Fed Gov in order to use a device that OSHA would mandate in every other circumstance... and fine you if your DIDN'T have...
I got past it, but only by writing a $200 check...Old Ironsights wrote:I just can't get past the Graft you have to pay to the Fed Gov in order to use a device that OSHA would mandate in every other circumstance... and fine you if your DIDN'T have...
30-30 and 35 Remington are also acceptable if you stick with subsonic loads, just as with 308 Winchester. You can get a 'tougher' can, but it will be bulkier, heavier, and not come apart for cleaning, plus cost twice as much; no point in suppressing a supersonic round anyway, in my opinion...[b][u]Liberty Cans[/u][/b] wrote: Suitable Cartridges include:
22 Hornet
22 K Hornet
218 Bee
223 REM – 16″ BBL
30 PPC – Subsonic
30 Carbine
32-20
357 MAG
221 Fireball
32 S&W Long
32 H&R Magnum
380
9X18
9X19 (Base Caliber)
38 Super
38 Special
38 S&W
357 Max – Subsonic
338 Spectre
300 BLK
300 Whisper
300/221
308 Win- Subsonic
all rimfire cartridges
5.45x39MM Russian
We now rate it for the 300 BLK in both supersonic and subsonic on an 8″ barrel
7.62 X 39 MM
FULL AUTO 300 BLACKOUT SUBSONIC AND SUPERSONIC.
6.8spc
If it's quiet enough that I'm concerned about "action noise" I think the goal has been achieved.cas wrote:Familyguy wrote: Interesting, but I think the AR platform is the path of least resistance.
If you mean action noise, port blast, gas in the face… then yes.