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On another forum a poster broke down and admitted to ordering a Mossberg 464 SPX. He also included a picture to which I responded:
"MY EYES!!!!!!!
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?!?!?!?!
Have you had a psychiatric evaluation recently?
You require an intervention so here is what you must do immediately upon delivery. First, remove that fugly buttstock, douse it in gas, and burn it before you ever even shoulder that . . . . . . Then, call Mossberg and order a birch stock and buttplate, paint it black, and install it like this."
Was I too harsh on the OP? Does the addition of a classic stock mitigate the ugliness enough to make it acceptable? What say this fine, august group?
Steve Retired and Living the Good Life No Matter Where You Go, There You Are
So did they flame you, or answer/ignore your comment. Which other forumn was this on?
30/30 Winchester: Not accurate enough fer varmints, barely adequate for small deer; BUT In a 10" to 14" barrelled pistol; is good for moose/elk to 200 yards; ground squirrels to 300 metres
250 Savage... its what the 223 wishes it could be...!
I like the flash suppressor (protects the crown better than anything else).
I like one rail (preferably removable) on the forend for a flashlight.
I don't like all the other doo-dads.
Swapping out the buttstock like you did makes it alot better though.
I should have patented my "Night Scout" rifle(s)...
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws "first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
I would recommend a can of wrinkle finish spray paint from the auto parts store.
My buddy Aaron next door when I lived on Maui got his garage flooded during heavy rains and his cheap Savage 110E rifle which he left in the garage standing up in the corner. The water level went about a foot high in the garage for several hours before finally subsiding. No damage to the metal but that stained birchwood stock looked like crapola from water damage from just below the trigger guard to the butt. I told him I'd clean it up for him. I let the stock dry out for about a week, then sanded the the whole stock to bare wood. Then a primered it then applied the wrinkle finish paint. It made the stock look like a polymer stock. The wrinkle finish also goes on thick so is more rugged and abrasion resistant than regular spray paint. I added a new recoil pad I had lying around. When I gave it back to him he though I bought him a new synthetic stock, took him some convincing.
Illegitimus Non Carborundum Akā, ʻo ka poʻe hilinaʻi aku iā Iēhova, e ulu hou nō ko lākou ikaika;
E piʻi ʻēheu aku nō lākou i luna, e like me nā ʻaito;
E holo nō lākou, ʻaʻole hoʻi e māloʻeloʻe,
E hele mua nō lākou, ʻaʻole hoʻi e maʻule.
`Isaia 40:31
You know I actually like a collapsible buttstock. 1. People of all sizes can shoot it comfortably. 2. You can adjust the length of pull to suit yourself in different clothing, t-shirt vs winter parka. But I got to admit that wood buttstock does take away a little of the homeliness.
The LORD is my light and my salvation; Whom shall I fear?
The LORD is the defense of my life; Whom shall I dread?
Psalms 27:1
I like collapsible buttstocks and flash suppressors too, but on a lever gun? I dunno... This thing reminds me of the Spanish FR-8. A gun that's not sure what it is or is trying to be. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =321853487
Oly
Cheers,
Oly
I hope and pray someday the world will learn
That fires we don't put out will bigger burn
2ndovc wrote:Whatcha gonna do? Some guys dig chubby chicks too!
That's not a fair comparison. Some of us can only pick up chubby chicks, but if someone can afford a "tactical lever action" they surely can afford a more traditional one!
It's probably a result of a deficiency in my technique, but I seem to need a levergun fore end to be "just right" compared to a semiauto; a quad (or in the case of the Mossberg, "triple") rail would likely be a bridge too far for my liking. The bulk, the "serrated' effect... based on using railed ARs, I don't believe I'd care too much for a lever thus equipped. In a way, Mossberg is behind the curve, as the current AR trend appears to be towards a slimmer, "slick" forend with modular rail sections that can be added as/where needed. I could actually get enthusiastic about a synthetic levergun fore end of traditional size that has holes/slots that allows adding various rail sections as needed (which would be few enough in my case: light, possibly laser... maybe a sling loop or QD swivel stud on the left side).
But heck, the fore end wasn't the issue here, was it? My bad.
Regarding the collapsible buttstock, I'll be blunt: Mossberg needs to run up the white flag and get an industrial design studio involved. Yeah, I know it's Mossberg - known and loved (by some) for cheesy details since the 1940's - but come on lads... pay an Italian outfit a couple of lira and save yourselves the embarrassment of hawking a product that looks like some sixth-grader's idea of a wargame M4 stock as made by a low $$$ Pacific Rim airsoft pirate.
deafrn
"I wasn't ignoring you, I just couldn't hear you. Okay, NOW I'm ignoring you."
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't own a 'tacticool' levergun if you gave it to me. I just copied a picture of a regular buttstock, pasted it to a picture of the SPX, and then blacked out the wood color. I was using it to convince the new owner of the SPX that with a bit of work it was possibly salvageable to an extent that the levergun gods might accept his abomination!
Steve Retired and Living the Good Life No Matter Where You Go, There You Are
For me, the most objectionable part is the multi-picitinny rail on the front end. I could live with a collapsible stock but not a fat saw on the front...
Mike
Vocatus atque non vocatus, Deus aderit...
I've learned how to stand on my own two knees...
COSteve wrote:I was using it to convince the new owner of the SPX that with a bit of work it was possibly salvageable to an extent that the levergun gods might accept his abomination!
You mean - could it be - we - are the - Levergun Gods. . . ?
. . . or are we just their enlightened earthly followers...?
mikld wrote:For me, the most objectionable part is the multi-picitinny rail on the front end. I could live with a collapsible stock but not a fat saw on the front...
deafrn wrote:The bulk, the "serrated' effect... based on using railed ARs, I don't believe I'd care too much for a lever thus equipped. .
That's why I went the magazine-tube route; a little J-B Weld or sweat-soldering, and you have a slim, trim package not interfering with your grip.
Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws "first do no harm" - gun control LAWS lead to far more deaths than 'easy access' ever could.
While doc's looks better I've got to admit that hanging anything on a levergun besides a tang sight and a sling just looks odd to me. I know that the red dots help with accuracy but something about messing with the trim lines just doesn't sit right with me. Maybe I'm too set in my ways but to me certain style firearms look 'right' outfitted certain ways and other styles don't.
Steve Retired and Living the Good Life No Matter Where You Go, There You Are
So did they flame you, or answer/ignore your comment. Which other forumn was this on?
