and I am planning on loading another batch tomorrow....
whats your favorite load....
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BTW I am shooting a uberti 73 and beretta stampede
ouch..
Watching Coogans Bluff....and he just whack the bad guy with his winchester...
Good movie!
For god's sake, don't evan think about these loads in your guns. they are for Rugers only. 18 grs. of 2400 would likely kill you and everyone around you in a Uberti.Don McDowell wrote:My "best" loads for the 45 include 9 grs of unique , or 12 grs of bludot, or 18 grs of 2400 under a 250-260 gr semiwadcutter cast bullet.In your rifle you'll find the better preformance with the bludot and 2400 powders, than with the unique. You'll get a velocity gain with those powders somewhere from 200-250 fps over what a 7.5 in handgun
barrel will give.
Paul Jenkins wrote:For god's sake, don't evan think about these loads in your guns. they are for Rugers only. 18 grs. of 2400 would likely kill you and everyone around you in a Uberti.Don McDowell wrote:My "best" loads for the 45 include 9 grs of unique , or 12 grs of bludot, or 18 grs of 2400 under a 250-260 gr semiwadcutter cast bullet.In your rifle you'll find the better preformance with the bludot and 2400 powders, than with the unique. You'll get a velocity gain with those powders somewhere from 200-250 fps over what a 7.5 in handgun
barrel will give.
You don't have a bit of clue do you?Paul Jenkins wrote:Sir,
He wasn't asking about rifles , he asked about a Uberti pistol. 17 gr.under a 250 or 265 gr. bullet of 2400 would like kill him.
Don McDowell wrote:Paul Jenkins wrote:For god's sake, don't evan think about these loads in your guns. they are for Rugers only. 18 grs. of 2400 would likely kill you and everyone around you in a Uberti.Don McDowell wrote:My "best" loads for the 45 include 9 grs of unique , or 12 grs of bludot, or 18 grs of 2400 under a 250-260 gr semiwadcutter cast bullet.In your rifle you'll find the better preformance with the bludot and 2400 powders, than with the unique. You'll get a velocity gain with those powders somewhere from 200-250 fps over what a 7.5 in handgun
barrel will give.
Bullspit son , you need to get yourself just a wee bit of real experience before you go to making stupid statements like that. You might want to actually look at some real reloading data and expand your horizons beyond the end of your nose.
Joe & Don,J Miller wrote:Don, You beat me to it.
As for the OP, he asked for our best loads, mentioned his and stated what he was shooting them in. He did not ask what our best loads for his type of guns were.
Joe
Paul, I ain't got a dog in this squabble of you and Don's, but here the OP makes it clear that the loads will be shot out of a '73 rifle as well as a Stampede revolver. All of the loads I've seen here on this thread would be fine to shoot out of either. Elmer Keith spent a lot of years fooling with old Colts and such, and I tend to think he knows of what he speaks. If it's good enough for Elmer, it's probably good enough for meRIHMFIRE wrote:when I mentioned the uberti 73....i should have mentioned rifle...to be clear...
I use the same load in both pistol and rifle....
mostly for killing paper targets at 50 and 100 yards....
but
I was also thinking about a huntind load for porkers....with a JHP
One fourth of the posts made in this thread by you , you still have not addressed the original question, only proceeded with your very selective righteous indignation,,,,, Speaks volumes....Paul Jenkins wrote:It seems I have misunderstood By a long shot the question asked. If I have answered inappropriaely, I appolozie. I will be VERY careful To reply again
goodbye..soolong...syonara...Paul Jenkins wrote:Gents?
When I first logged into this board 10 yrs ago,I asked about the Uberti '73 pistol & rifle and was told by most users then to use nothing hotter than a factory load. Evan Uberti said that!. Guess you all know more than the manufacturer. I know I won't come here for RELIABLE INFO again.
The manufacturers are just covering themselves because there are a lot of ignorant people out there. They don't want someone to think it's ok to shoot full house loads out of these guns. Saves the gun company lots of headaches and lawsuits when someone sticks a full power .44 mag load in a SAA and blows it up. The manufacturer can then say, "We recommended only the use of factory power loads in our firearms."Paul Jenkins wrote:Gents?
When I first logged into this board 10 yrs ago,I asked about the Uberti '73 pistol & rifle and was told by most users then to use nothing hotter than a factory load. Evan Uberti said that!. Guess you all know more than the manufacturer. I know I won't come here for RELIABLE INFO again.
Yes, but that doesn't mean that we SHOULD go out and test the limits of any particular firearm. Guns, like other machined or manufactured products have a "life"... Over which you should expect continued, reliable service. Whatever the "planned obsolecense" is for my Colt SAAs might be, I plan on them giving me more than that! Just because my Camaro has a demonstrated top end of 145mph, doesn't mean that doin' so for extended periods would have given me the nearly 200,000 miles that it has. Just because I can run ammo in my revolver up to 14,000psi, doesn't mean it won't have detrimental effects, "down the road", so to speak!shooter wrote:The manufacturers are just covering themselves because there are a lot of ignorant people out there. They don't want someone to think it's ok to shoot full house loads out of these guns. Saves the gun company lots of headaches and lawsuits when someone sticks a full power .44 mag load in a SAA and blows it up. The manufacturer can then say, "We recommended only the use of factory power loads in our firearms."Paul Jenkins wrote:Gents?
When I first logged into this board 10 yrs ago,I asked about the Uberti '73 pistol & rifle and was told by most users then to use nothing hotter than a factory load. Ev(e)n Uberti said that!. Guess you all know more than the manufacturer. I know I won't come here for RELIABLE INFO again.
A very big +1JohndeFresno wrote:Ya know, folks...
THE main reason that I stay here instead of visiting other sites is because of the variety of information AND opinions, without the flaming.
I acknowledge that I'm not the moderator; but we could do without the nasty direct attacks on one's character or mental faculties if there is disagreement; flaming cheapens this forum for all of the rest of us. I, for one, have had to swallow "stuff" for 38 years as a cop, and I've had all I care to take. Let's keep it civil.
Don, I don't have a copy of the 48th, but the 49th lists the 240JHC grain @ 17grains for 997fps and a 250JHP @ 16.5 grains as the heaviest loads and bullets for that powder.Don McDowell wrote:Some folks here may be quite interested to take a look at the 45 colt data contained in the Lyman 48th edition reloading handbook. More specifically there maybe some here who might be quite surprised by the 2400 data using the hornady 250 gr bullet.....
But then again ,, maybe not..
Aye, that's the section I was reading, (pg 390). Apparently they've down-sized their recommendations... again!Don McDowell wrote:Griff those loads are out of the standard 45 colt data, not the Ruger/t/c stuff,keep going towards the back of the book, you'll find stuff there that'll get your attention in short order..
Point is 18 grs of 2400 has been around a long long time.
Thread topic was "your best 45 colt loads"
I gave mine.
...changes in propellants?...Griff wrote:...Aye, that's the section I was reading, (pg 390). Apparently they've down-sized their recommendations... again!
I agree 100%. I wasn't advocating testing the limits of a gun, and sorry if I came across that way. I've come across several older load manuals that have a much higher max load than the current manuals do. I don't know the reasoning for this other than the manuals are also trying to cover themselves just to be safe.Griff wrote:Yes, but that doesn't mean that we SHOULD go out and test the limits of any particular firearm. Guns, like other machined or manufactured products have a "life"... Over which you should expect continued, reliable service. Whatever the "planned obsolecense" is for my Colt SAAs might be, I plan on them giving me more than that! Just because my Camaro has a demonstrated top end of 145mph, doesn't mean that doin' so for extended periods would have given me the nearly 200,000 miles that it has. Just because I can run ammo in my revolver up to 14,000psi, doesn't mean it won't have detrimental effects, "down the road", so to speak!