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Hello, first time poster. Very informative site and love the pictures. Glad to be on board!
I have a few lever guns I acquired over the summer. Picked up a couple Henry .22's, one with the large loop, very smooth actions and fun to shoot. Have a Winchester 94AE Trapper in .44 mag and a 94AE Trapper in .45 LC.
The .44 has 1894-1994 stamped into the receiver. The .45 has the large loop handle and may swap it out to the .44. I think it would look better on the shorter barrel carbine.
Also have a 9422 Legacy in .22 mag. This is a beautiful gun. Has dark walnut wood with checkered stock. The most comfortable lever action I've had in my shoulder. The three Winchesters are like new with very few rounds fired through them.
In the mix is a Puma 92 in .45 LC. Stainless 24" octagon barrel with brass receiver and dark walnut wood with crescent shape butt stock. I would like to use it for big game hunting but not sure if it will handle pressures higher than cowboy loads due to the receiver being brass.
Jon
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Welcome to the board Jon! Very nice collection you have there - great first post!
As to using your brass framed Rossi for hunting - go ahead! You can load it to standard pressures and easily get a 250-255 grain bullet going about 1100 fps from the muzzle. For example, a load of 8.0 grains of Unique with a 250 grain cast boolit will send it down range at about that velocity. Even a mild load of 7.0 grains of W231 with the same boolit will give you 1000 fps from the muzzle. These loads will through and through a deer easily - even if you shoot it in the shoulder.
You can shoot the deer out to 100 yards and expect full penetration with a solid cast boolit. If semi-wadcutters cycle in it, that's what I'd choose but a round nose/flat point will work fine too.
It's the +p loads that you will need to avoid with that gun.
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Welcome to the forum, WyoShooter. Nice set of leverguns you got there. I've got a Legacy as well and I agree it's a great rifle. And, your first post is with a pic. You're off to a great start.
Welcome from the other side of Wyo
nice lot of guns there Wyo.
im sure someone will know bout the 45 & chime in
awhile back there was a post on that very thing, im thinking
The .45 Colt has lots of 'levels' of loads you can use, and although I'd not want to feed that brass-alloy receiver a steady diet of 'almost-Casull' loads, a mid-range .45 Colt load from a rifle has PLENTY of power to deal with whitetail...!
First is PLACEMENT - and all but the heaviest/hottest Colt loads should be easy to 'place' with that gun (get better sights, like a Williams FP-94 rear and Lyman Globe front).
Second is BULLET construction - and .452" bullets are among the most varied in available options (start reloading your own ammo so you can craft better-than-factory ammo for less-than-factory cost - and afford to shoot more so you can work on placement ).
Third is POWER (or velocity, for a given bullet) - and you simply don't need the 'upper level' .45 Colt loads for hunting, unless you're planning on shooting a charging elephant.
Great collection of leverguns - sounds like you've got the bases WELL covered; you might want your 'next' levergun to be a long-action one in .35 Rem, .444 Marlin (uses the same bullet diameters as your .44 Mag), .45-70 (alas, uses .458" vs. .452" like your Colt), or the good-old .30-30 Winchester...! If you get a 'long-action' gun next, you won't feel any need to 'push' your pistol-chambered short-action leverguns beyond ordinary moderate loadings.
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I appreciate the load info recommendations very much. Wasn't sure if the brass receiver would handle it and very happy it will. If I wasn't able to shoot anything but cowboy loads out of it, I was thinking about trading for something else. I could use my Winchester .45 but I don't want to beat it up hunting with it and wanted the longer barrel in the 92.
Would very much like to take an antelope, deer and elk with it this fall.
Ollogger, I'm in Riverton. Haven't been over in your neck of the woods since 85'. Spend most of my time up in the mountains and desert around here, Dubois and the far western part of the state.
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Six total... Have a mess of single action pistols too.
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WyoShooter wrote:Hello, first time poster. Very informative site and love the pictures. Glad to be on board!
I have a few lever guns I acquired over the summer. Picked up a couple Henry .22's, one with the large loop, very smooth actions and fun to shoot. Have a Winchester 94AE Trapper in .44 mag and a 94AE Trapper in .45 LC.
The .44 has 1894-1994 stamped into the receiver. The .45 has the large loop handle and may swap it out to the .44. I think it would look better on the shorter barrel carbine.
Also have a 9422 Legacy in .22 mag. This is a beautiful gun. Has dark walnut wood with checkered stock. The most comfortable lever action I've had in my shoulder. The three Winchesters are like new with very few rounds fired through them.
In the mix is a Puma 92 in .45 LC. Stainless 24" octagon barrel with brass receiver and dark walnut wood with crescent shape butt stock. I would like to use it for big game hunting but not sure if it will handle pressures higher than cowboy loads due to the receiver being brass.
Jon
Nice. I'll be in Riverton over the weekend for Midwinter Fire School...maybe we can hook up?
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and Welcome to THE Forum. Nice start on a collection. That 94AE will handle any loads you might wanna put thru it, short of 454 Casull levels... the brass framed Rossi '92 tho', I'd hold to stad .45Colt loads.
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WyoShooter wrote:Hello, first time poster. Very informative site and love the pictures. Glad to be on board!
I have a few lever guns I acquired over the summer. Picked up a couple Henry .22's, one with the large loop, very smooth actions and fun to shoot. Have a Winchester 94AE Trapper in .44 mag and a 94AE Trapper in .45 LC.
The .44 has 1894-1994 stamped into the receiver. The .45 has the large loop handle and may swap it out to the .44. I think it would look better on the shorter barrel carbine.
Also have a 9422 Legacy in .22 mag. This is a beautiful gun. Has dark walnut wood with checkered stock. The most comfortable lever action I've had in my shoulder. The three Winchesters are like new with very few rounds fired through them.
In the mix is a Puma 92 in .45 LC. Stainless 24" octagon barrel with brass receiver and dark walnut wood with crescent shape butt stock. I would like to use it for big game hunting but not sure if it will handle pressures higher than cowboy loads due to the receiver being brass.
Jon
Howdy and welcome to the fire. the 92 action is much stronger than the Win 94's Marlin 1894's and even the marlin 336/95 action. It will more than handle any of the +P 45lc ammo. But that is in the all steel frame guns. So as the other folks have said you will need to keep it to bare bones 45lc velocities, about 1100 FPS for the 250's.
I used this one this year.
I had originally sighted it in with Cowboy loads at 75 yds. But, I ordered some of the Buffalo Bore Heavy 45 Colt +P Ammo - 260 gr. J.H.P. to hunt with. When I went back to sight it in I didn't take a chonograph but the first shot printed about 20" high. So, it's difinately making the muzzle rise. That crescent butt plate will get your attention too.
If you are interested in a trade I have one of the last EMF imported Rossi 92's. It's an all stainless 24" in 45lc. It's a new in the box gun.
Griff wrote: and Welcome to THE Forum. Nice start on a collection. That 94AE will handle any loads you might wanna put thru it, short of 454 Casull levels... the brass framed Rossi '92 tho', I'd hold to stad .45Colt loads.
In regards to the "brass" framed Rossi 92.......is that real brass or brass colored mystery metal??
WyoShooter wrote:Hello, first time poster. Very informative site and love the pictures. Glad to be on board!
I have a few lever guns I acquired over the summer. Picked up a couple Henry .22's, one with the large loop, very smooth actions and fun to shoot. Have a Winchester 94AE Trapper in .44 mag and a 94AE Trapper in .45 LC.
The .44 has 1894-1994 stamped into the receiver. The .45 has the large loop handle and may swap it out to the .44. I think it would look better on the shorter barrel carbine.
Also have a 9422 Legacy in .22 mag. This is a beautiful gun. Has dark walnut wood with checkered stock. The most comfortable lever action I've had in my shoulder. The three Winchesters are like new with very few rounds fired through them.
In the mix is a Puma 92 in .45 LC. Stainless 24" octagon barrel with brass receiver and dark walnut wood with crescent shape butt stock. I would like to use it for big game hunting but not sure if it will handle pressures higher than cowboy loads due to the receiver being brass.
Jon
Nice. I'll be in Riverton over the weekend for Midwinter Fire School...maybe we can hook up?
What town you coming in from? Might get a chance to break away if I'm not out playing.
Jon
"In the beginning of a change the Patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
WyoShooter wrote:Hello, first time poster. Very informative site and love the pictures. Glad to be on board!
I have a few lever guns I acquired over the summer. Picked up a couple Henry .22's, one with the large loop, very smooth actions and fun to shoot. Have a Winchester 94AE Trapper in .44 mag and a 94AE Trapper in .45 LC.
The .44 has 1894-1994 stamped into the receiver. The .45 has the large loop handle and may swap it out to the .44. I think it would look better on the shorter barrel carbine.
Also have a 9422 Legacy in .22 mag. This is a beautiful gun. Has dark walnut wood with checkered stock. The most comfortable lever action I've had in my shoulder. The three Winchesters are like new with very few rounds fired through them.
In the mix is a Puma 92 in .45 LC. Stainless 24" octagon barrel with brass receiver and dark walnut wood with crescent shape butt stock. I would like to use it for big game hunting but not sure if it will handle pressures higher than cowboy loads due to the receiver being brass.
Jon
Howdy and welcome to the fire. the 92 action is much stronger than the Win 94's Marlin 1894's and even the marlin 336/95 action. It will more than handle any of the +P 45lc ammo. But that is in the all steel frame guns. So as the other folks have said you will need to keep it to bare bones 45lc velocities, about 1100 FPS for the 250's.
I used this one this year.
I had originally sighted it in with Cowboy loads at 75 yds. But, I ordered some of the Buffalo Bore Heavy 45 Colt +P Ammo - 260 gr. J.H.P. to hunt with. When I went back to sight it in I didn't take a chonograph but the first shot printed about 20" high. So, it's difinately making the muzzle rise. That crescent butt plate will get your attention too.
If you are interested in a trade I have one of the last EMF imported Rossi 92's. It's an all stainless 24" in 45lc. It's a new in the box gun.
That's an attractive 92 you got there. Thanks for the info and I will keep the trade in mind. Will check out your web site. Thanks!
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Nice six shooter OS!
I have three Rugers in .32 H&R mag. Two are stainless and the third is blued with case hardened colors. Super fun guns to shoot.
Jon
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Griff wrote: and Welcome to THE Forum. Nice start on a collection. That 94AE will handle any loads you might wanna put thru it, short of 454 Casull levels... the brass framed Rossi '92 tho', I'd hold to stad .45Colt loads.
In regards to the "brass" framed Rossi 92.......is that real brass or brass colored mystery metal??
It's brass. Magnet won't stick to it.
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Have a mess of single action pistols too.
and Welcome to THE Forum. Nice start on a collection. That 94AE will handle any loads you might wanna put thru it, short of 454 Casull levels... the brass framed Rossi '92 tho', I'd hold to stad .45Colt loads.
