How dependable were bolt mounted Winchester peep sights?

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How dependable were bolt mounted Winchester peep sights?

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I've looked at these bolt mounted aperture sights and always wondered if they were dependable and held thier POA or does the bolt tolerances introduce some error?
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I've always thought that there must be some accumulated error from bolt fitting tolerances but I've never heard of one of the sights breaking. IOW, very dependable sights.
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Canuck Bob wrote:I've looked at these bolt mounted aperture sights and always wondered if they were dependable and held thier POA or does the bolt tolerances introduce some error?
There has to be "some" but I doubt you'd be able to actually tell it on the target.... peep sights are for sure more accurate than the standard sights.... but no where near the accuracy of good optics that you'd be able to notice the difference of a few thousandths error
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Canuck Bob wrote:I've looked at these bolt mounted aperture sights and always wondered if they were dependable and held thier POA or does the bolt tolerances introduce some error?

There is so little movement in the bolt it's negligible and being an iron sight it will be more accurate than the gun (Bullet BC) or shooter is capable of with barrel mounted sights anyway (what slack might be present is more than made up with the addition sight radius). To gain any more accuracy you would have to go to a fine adjusting Soule/Venier rear and globe front. But, unless your gun can deliver bench rest accuracy ( not likely with a levergun) the Soule/Venier rear and globe front still won't help.
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Most of the time when the bbolt is in lockup, it will settle into the same spot time after time. The bearing of springloaded parts like the ejector and extractor push the bolt into the same position. Another good exmple is the SA pistol, 1911 or other type. There is a fair amount of rattle room, but the slide tends to settle into exactly the same place time after time. And as far as precision goes, back in the olden days when I could see and had useful reflexes I could readily shoot 1/2" groups @ 100yd w/receiver sights, small disc aperture and front post.
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Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:There is so little movement in the bolt it's negligible and being an iron sight it will be more accurate than the gun (Bullet BC) or shooter is capable of with barrel mounted sights anyway (what slack might be present is more than made up with the addition sight radius). To gain any more accuracy you would have to go to a fine adjusting Soule/Venier rear and globe front. But, unless your gun can deliver bench rest accuracy ( not likely with a levergun) the Soule/Venier rear and globe front still won't help.
One of the reasons I'm wondering is for my Winoku 92 with the dreaded tang safety. I'm outfitting the 32-20 for plinking so the bolt peep style would work.

NKJones, its a takedown model. Would I have any problem with wandering POA due to the seperate barrel/action joint when using a tang or receiver sight?
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Re: How dependable were bolt mounted Winchester peep sights?

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Where would I get a bolt peep for a Rossi 92 without the safety??

How much work is on the bolt to do? Is it removable?

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Canuck Bob wrote:
Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:There is so little movement in the bolt it's negligible and being an iron sight it will be more accurate than the gun (Bullet BC) or shooter is capable of with barrel mounted sights anyway (what slack might be present is more than made up with the addition sight radius). To gain any more accuracy you would have to go to a fine adjusting Soule/Venier rear and globe front. But, unless your gun can deliver bench rest accuracy ( not likely with a levergun) the Soule/Venier rear and globe front still won't help.
One of the reasons I'm wondering is for my Winoku 92 with the dreaded tang safety. I'm outfitting the 32-20 for plinking so the bolt peep style would work.

NKJones, its a takedown model. Would I have any problem with wandering POA due to the seperate barrel/action joint when using a tang or receiver sight?

No. but I'd look into a receiver sight.
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