Pre 1964 & Post 1964 Question.

[cshold]

What “all” exactly changed in the making of the Winchester Model 94
during this now famous year

[76/444]

The only difference I am aware of is the pre 64 feed ramp was machined rather than stamped.

[Hobie]

Where IS Joe's complete description?

[J Miller]

I KNOW! I KNOW! Here it is:
http://onesticky.levergunscommunity.org ... sters.html

I almost forgot where it was too.

Joe

[cshold]

Thanks for the link.
I really don't remember 1964, I was only 3

[J Miller]

I was 12 but I didn't get my first 1894 till three years later. I was too busy in 1964 listening to the Beatles and other English groups.

Joe

[Hobie]

Thanks Joe. I finally got smart enough to put a link to it on my blog. Now, if I can just remember I put it there!

[cshold]

Mine was made in 1961.
Why did my pre-64 Left Side come with the two extra holes to
mount either a side mount or a pep sight?
I did not have it D&T’d, I bought it brand new about
7 yrs. Ago. It was brand new in the original box all hang tags
wrapped in the brown paper. (Yes still have all)
So what yr. did Win. Start D&Ting the two extra holes from
the factory?

[Hobie]

I am thinking 1955... dang CRS today... My ca. 1946 gun was not D&T.

[Pete44ru]

[Why did my pre-64 Left Side come with the two extra holes to mount either a side mount or a pep sight?]

BTW - The two holes weren't for scope mounting, since scopes weren't in general usage (yet) at the time - they were/are peep sight prep holes.

Years later, when scopes became popular and readily available, the side scope mount was developed to meet the demand to scope the Model 94, and so was designed to utilize the factory peep/prep holes and the bolt pin stop screw hole, so aspiring self-scopers could buy a "no gunsmithing" mount.

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[Pete44ru]

1964................. Ahhhhhhh !.........It was a VERY good year - the last year of my batchelorhood.

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[cshold]

[Why did my pre-64 Left Side come with the two extra holes to mount either a side mount or a pep sight?]

BTW - The two holes weren't for scope mounting, since scopes weren't in general usage (yet) at the time - they were/are peep sight prep holes.

Years later, when scopes became popular and readily available, the side scope mount was developed to meet the demand to scope the Model 94, and so was designed to utilize the factory peep/prep holes and the bolt pin stop screw hole, so aspiring self-scopers could buy a "no gunsmithing" mount..

Yep, made just for me, I love that little K3 ridin the side.

[J Miller]

My 1950 is not D&T'd for a side mount receiver sight ... yet. When I can find a drill press and get it done I have a nice shiny older steel Lyman 66A waiting for it. No carrying handles on my lever guns.

Joe

[pokey]

the d&t started around '51/'52 when the short forearm wood came to be.

[Old Savage]

That's pre 64 or post 63.

[gak]

I'm noticing, other than the first post, no one's bothered to address the OP's question--at least in terms of substantial differences. As far as I know, the aforementioned lifter/feed ramp, fit and finish (pre's having more labor/hand finishing supposedly) and metallurgy of the receiver - the posts using a scintered metal that can't take blue'ing/re-blue'ing worth a darn (though I've heard case hardening works ok) and there was a lot of flaking. Early post-64 examples actually looked like black paint when new. All 94s are said to be somewhat prone to moisture on the receiver (sweat, etc.) resulting in pitting, suggesting frequent wipe-downs--but the posts even more-so. Later ones improved in this finish department gradually - during the 70s - to the point where, just prior to (and just after) USRAC's take-over in '80 the finish--at least cosmetically--and items such as the feed ramp had approached pre-64 levels again. Others more expert than I can fill-in or correct.

[Griff]

gak, the link Joe posted did. This question has come up a lot & Joe's done his homework and posted it up for all.

I think the D&T was '52. Joe, I'd love an unmolested '50... let me find a good '52 & we'll swap! We can both have our birth year 94's!

'64, I built my 1st surfboard trailer for my bike... 9 miles from my parent's house to the Huntington Beach pier!

[J Miller]

gak, the link Joe posted did. This question has come up a lot & Joe's done his homework and posted it up for all.

I think the D&T was '52. Joe, I'd love an unmolested '50... let me find a good '52 & we'll swap! We can both have our birth year 94's!

'64, I built my 1st surfboard trailer for my bike... 9 miles from my parent's house to the Huntington Beach pier!

Absolutely. That would tickle me pink.

Joe