Cast Boolits question

[azoil]

I have already asked this on the Cast Boolits sight but wanted to pick your guys' brains too.

I am thinking the Lee LA is a cheaper way to go but messy. But I wondered if you could only use that method with the Lee Tumble Lube type bullets. Apparently you can use it with any type boolit.

So, if you can use the LLA lube and tumble lube method on even the hard wax style grooved boolits, will the Lee sizer still do an adequate job? What would be the downfall to this method? Maybe there is a limitation on Lee sizer die sizes?

I would prefer to just use the Ranch Dog molds, tumble Lube grooves and a gas check, but they don't yet cover every caliber. So I may want to get some from other sources that only have standard hard wax lube grooves. I don't want to buy a lubrisizer if I don't need to.

[Chuck 100 yd]

azoil, Howdy! LLA works good on just about any bullet design I have tried it on.The tumble lube bullets do put more lube close to the bore than those deep lube grooves do but you can lube them more to get more on. Take a look at Lee`s site to see more tumble lube designs from Lee.
Most of them work good . Ranch Dogs bullets are great but Lee`s designs work well in many guns if not undersize for the bore.

[cnjarvis]

I have limited experience with the LLA and Lee bullets but only because I'v just recently started casting. The mould I've cast from is the Lee 452-255-RF (if memory serves) which is a standard mould. The LLA worked very well for me with standard velocity 45 Colt loads and I found no leading. I don't know how the LLA holds up on high vel. loads but I suspect it doesn't.

You can always size them in the lee size die and pan lube them to avoid having to buy a lubrisizer. That's what I plan on doing.

[Old Savage]

Ah Dave, it is happening, it's clear - you are headed down that slope - get the lubrisizer.

[Don McDowell]

Dave short answer you betcha LLA works good, on all sorts of lead bullets. It's even saved the day for me on some not so good commercial cast things that, turned pretty fair after a treatment of lla.

Got to agree with the go with the lubrisizer statement. Sooner or later its likely to happen. I have an ancient Lyman /Ideal 45 that takes the new lyman and rcbs size dies and top punches just fine. I've seen those old buggers as cheap as 5bucks on ebay.

Always pays to keep a good bottle of lla hanging around, never know when it'll come in handy.

[J Miller]

azoil,

I don't have any of the Lee tumble lube bullets. But I do have one of their press top bullet sizers and a bottle of LLA.

I also have an RCBS Lube-A-Matic, and the old original Lee pan lube kits. So I'm set to lube any which way.

I use the LLA mostly on factory produced lead bullets. Speer, Hornaday, Remington and others. That flaky waxy stuff the factories put on them is just not enough. Adding the LLA works wonders.

I've also done as you mentioned, lubing some of the commercial cast bullets with the hard wax lube. That works too.

I've found the easiest way to lube bullets with the LLA is to use one of those GLAD or ZIP LOC plastic storage tubs, about 3"x4"x2" size, put a 100 bullets in it, squirt some LLA in and just tumble them in the tub. Then dump them out on a piece of wax paper and stand them upright. Let them sit over night and you got a batch of nicely lubed bullets.

Basically the LLA can be used for any bullet. I prefer to use the L-A-M on regular bullets, and use the LLA for factory bullets and an occasional batch of wax lubed bullets.

Joe

[WyrTwister]

What is LLA ?

I have used the Lee Liquid Lube for years .

God bless
Wyr

I have already asked this on the Cast Boolits sight but wanted to pick your guys' brains too.

I am thinking the Lee LA is a cheaper way to go but messy. But I wondered if you could only use that method with the Lee Tumble Lube type bullets. Apparently you can use it with any type boolit.

So, if you can use the LLA lube and tumble lube method on even the hard wax style grooved boolits, will the Lee sizer still do an adequate job? What would be the downfall to this method? Maybe there is a limitation on Lee sizer die sizes?

I would prefer to just use the Ranch Dog molds, tumble Lube grooves and a gas check, but they don't yet cover every caliber. So I may want to get some from other sources that only have standard hard wax lube grooves. I don't want to buy a lubrisizer if I don't need to.

[Chuck 100 yd]

Lee Liquid Alox. aka: LLA

[cutter]

azoil,

I don't have any of the Lee tumble lube bullets. But I do have one of their press top bullet sizers and a bottle of LLA.

I also have an RCBS Lube-A-Matic, and the old original Lee pan lube kits. So I'm set to lube any which way.

I use the LLA mostly on factory produced lead bullets. Speer, Hornaday, Remington and others. That flaky waxy stuff the factories put on them is just not enough. Adding the LLA works wonders.

I've also done as you mentioned, lubing some of the commercial cast bullets with the hard wax lube. That works too.

I've found the easiest way to lube bullets with the LLA is to use one of those GLAD or ZIP LOC plastic storage tubs, about 3"x4"x2" size, put a 100 bullets in it, squirt some LLA in and just tumble them in the tub. Then dump them out on a piece of wax paper and stand them upright. Let them sit over night and you got a batch of nicely lubed bullets.

Basically the LLA can be used for any bullet. I prefer to use the L-A-M on regular bullets, and use the LLA for factory bullets and an occasional batch of wax lubed bullets.

Joe

Do you use the LLA in addition to the lube already on the bullets?