What Is Consensus Opinion On EER Scope for a Lever Rifle

[RANisbet]

One of my lever rifles has a typical side mounted scope (to allow top ejection).
I am thinking that a top mount may be better for me.
To do this, the scope would need to be moved forward of the bolt opening to allow top ejection and that would mean using an extended eye relief scope (EER).
By the way, if I decide to go with an EER, I will custom machine a scope mount and use Conetrol rings. (Did this once before about 30 years ago. Still use that scoped rifle.)
What do you Lever gun experts think of EER scope usage vs standard scopes.

[Tycer]

You'll lose some light transmission/early-late hunting with the IER (not EER). It's better to have the scope close to the eye. You can overcome this somewhat by spending more on better optics, but in a like-for-like comparison, you'll always have more light transmission in a receiver mounted scope.

The only disadvantage I can see to a side mounted scope is the less natural cheek weld, but if that's a problem you can add a pad to the stock. I like the side scope in that you can use factory irons out to XX distance and have the scope dialed in at XXX for the longer shots. Some say that having the scope off center of the barrel is an issue, but it is not. At least not in my lever hunting arena. If you have your POI centered at 150 yds, you'll be off to the right about 1" at 300 and off to the left 1" at the muzzle. Not an issue.

[RANisbet]

I am considering a fixed power scope, like a Nikon which has an actual magnification of 1.75X and an eye relief ranging from 10 inches to over 20 inches.
Your mention of head placement for a side mount scope is my primary dislike.

[Blaine]

I use a Leupold Scout Scope on my 1895GS and love it.

[John in MS]

I hunted 1 season with a top-eject Win. 94 using a 1-4X Burris scope in a Weaver side mount. I could manage to shoot it
ok, although getting a good head position was not something I could do quickly. However, I did find another disadvantage:
I had to work the lever VERY briskly to keep the empty case from dropping back down into the action and causing a jam.
I once took a shot and wanted to reload without making a lot of noise, and eased the lever open... and it caused all sorts
of fumbling to get the empty case out.

I have not used a scout (forward mounted) scope yet, but am thinking of adding one to my top-eject 94 as my eyesight
declines.

Hope this helps,
John

[2ndovc]

I have a Leopold Scout on my 450 Marlin, SOCOM 16 and a Burris IER on my 10/22.

Kid #2 has a Simmons pistol scope on an XS mount on his .35 Rem 336 and loves it.

Big fan of Scout Rifles! I have plans for a couple more.

jb

[Killer Kanuck]

Anyone tried a scout style scope setup of a Winchester 1895? Just got my Browning in 30-06 and was contemplating what I could put on it for sights/optics.

[awp101]

You'll lose some light transmission/early-late hunting with the IER (not EER).

IER?

[2ndovc]

You'll lose some light transmission/early-late hunting with the IER (not EER).

IER?

Intermediate Eye Relief. Pistol scopes are designed to be further away from the eye so most Scout scopes are actually IERs. The pistol scope I put in the kid's Marlin is set as far forward as I can get it but you still have to wiggle a little to get the proper picture.
I bought the cheapie just to make sure he liked the set up. Next year I'll get him a propper scope.

jb

[PaulB]

The only way to scope a lever gun in my opinion. Over the receiver negates one of the primary advantages of lever guns, their handiness. I call scout scopes "Iron sights for old eyes". They should be compared to iron sights, not to ordinary scopes.

The only real problem with them is how to get the dang things mounted.

[awp101]

You'll lose some light transmission/early-late hunting with the IER (not EER).

IER?

Intermediate Eye Relief. Pistol scopes are designed to be further away from the eye so most Scout scopes are actually IERs.

Thanks! I just thought they were all extended relief.

[Pisgah]

A strictly off-topic reply, but your subject title spurs a pet peeve of mine. So, speaking as the grammar-indoctrinated son of an English teacher:

The definition of "consensus" is "the general, or prevailing, opinion." Thus when you say "consensus opinion", you're saying " the prevailing opinion opinion". My favorite is "general consensus of opinion", which means "the general general opinion of opinion".

SIgning off now, from the Department of Redundancy Department.

[FWiedner]

Scout-scopes and pistol-scopes are useless in low-light (dawn/dusk) and in the dark.