"Best" Tang and/or Peep Sight
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"Best" Tang and/or Peep Sight
I recently acquired a new (.357 Mag) Rossi/Puma M92 short rifle (20" octagon barrel); the finish is color case hardened and blue with dark wood. With my aging eyes, I need a new sight-- but I want it to look "right" for the period of the rifle.
My criteria for selection is not complicated:
* Quick acquisition of the target
* Improved Accuracy (50 to 125 yards mostly)
* It needs to look like something that would not have out of place on a 1892 Winchester
I truly loved some of the side mount Peep sights by Williams with respect to ease of use and accuracy, but they are just too moderen for what I am looking for.
I've researched brands/types like Pederdoli, Marble, Lyman, Pacific, Creedmoor, and Soule
I have just about firmed up my selection on a Marble's-- but I have not actually every used one. Am I missing anything obvious here?
My criteria for selection is not complicated:
* Quick acquisition of the target
* Improved Accuracy (50 to 125 yards mostly)
* It needs to look like something that would not have out of place on a 1892 Winchester
I truly loved some of the side mount Peep sights by Williams with respect to ease of use and accuracy, but they are just too moderen for what I am looking for.
I've researched brands/types like Pederdoli, Marble, Lyman, Pacific, Creedmoor, and Soule
I have just about firmed up my selection on a Marble's-- but I have not actually every used one. Am I missing anything obvious here?
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Marbles are great, haven't tried the others. They are my first choice.
For a fixed sight the Williams WGRS is nice and slim, and it stays put.
For a fixed sight the Williams WGRS is nice and slim, and it stays put.
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Re: "Best" Tang and/or Peep Sight
I tried Lyman and Marbles tang sights on my original 1873 and 1886. Both look period correct, with the slimmer Lyman probably having the edge. I settled for the Marbles because the windage adjustment means you don't have to shim the sight if the tang is out of true. You can drill the eye cup aperture to suit your eyesight and range and for close work just take it out altogether and use it as a ghost ring. For a front sight my preference is the Beeches combination sight - it hinges to give you a bead and post or a blade.
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11/20/08
Take a look at Skinner's peep sights. Skinner is located up in Montana.
They are easy looking, not complex and do a great job.
Paratrooper Dave
Take a look at Skinner's peep sights. Skinner is located up in Montana.
They are easy looking, not complex and do a great job.
Paratrooper Dave
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Thanks for the information / advice. I really do like Tim Skinner's sights, and if I owned a Marlin lever with side eject, I'd for sure get one. But for the top ejection on the "92", I need a tang type to get the front sight near my eye and increase the distance twixt the front and rear sights.
I'm going with the Marble's. This should facilitate sighting when changing between 38 SP and .357 Mag also.
Again, thanks for the feed back.
I'm going with the Marble's. This should facilitate sighting when changing between 38 SP and .357 Mag also.
Again, thanks for the feed back.
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I'd get one of these for $65. It's a copy of the Win. midrange sight, and was a high priced option on the 1892 Win., so would be right at home on your Puma.
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I don't much care for tang mounted sights, but the "BEST" receiver sight is the original Lyman #56. I have them on several of my Winchesters and like them tremendously.
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I like the looks of the Williams sights, but I can't figure out which set would work on my Puma 92...anyone know?
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For period look, the tang is the way to go. Of the Lyman or Marbles, the Marbles is the more convienent to use with its windage adjustment.
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Re: "Best" Tang and/or Peep Sight
I don't know anything about the tang sight, I want something similar to the factory sight...just an upgrade.
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I have looked more seriously at the tang sight, there is an argument for this type of sight. I have never used a tang and am not sure how it can be faster or easier...but this may be a time to trust those who know more. Ii DO like the large peep style on the marble site, anyone know how that woould do (look)?
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Ismithart, The Puma is basically a Winchester M. 92 clone. The upper tang will accapt the M.92 sight model. You will need to drill one hole for the front screw in the tang. I use tang sights on all of my Winchesters. Just having to look at the front sight and target is great for old, farsighted eyes. Be sure you receive a METRIC threaded screw for the new longer stock screw that retains the tang sight at the rear. A couple of times I have purchased Lyman sights, and I have gotten both American and metric screws. I don't know if that is still the case though.
The tang sight is much faster to use since you ignore the rear sight. Your eye optically centers on it so you can use the sight without any inserts for hunting, and one of the inserts for target practice if you wish.
The tang sight is much faster to use since you ignore the rear sight. Your eye optically centers on it so you can use the sight without any inserts for hunting, and one of the inserts for target practice if you wish.
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What Gun Smith said.lsmithhart wrote:I don't know anything about the tang sight, I want something similar to the factory sight...just an upgrade.
Maybe something along the lines of this reproduction sight from Jeff's Outfitters, Winchester Repro 73, 76 and 86 Serrated Adj Sight and they have an excellent valued tang sight also: Winchester Tang Peep Sight; (but as Gun Smith noted I'm not sure if a metric threaded buttstock screw is available).
Something like this:anyone know how that woould do (look)?
(not a Marbles or Lyman, but an early prototype copy of modern manufacture)
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I would like to thank you both, I may end up with both. I just readabout a cowboy shooter, he uses the Marbles tang. At a recent event, he broke it off and was unable to continue (at least with any success), so he now uses both. He has a brownell rear sight lowered 2 notches and a Marble tang. If he breaks his tang, he raises his rear (flat) sight and continues. I like that redundant sight idea.
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Does this seem to be a logical idea (approach)?
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I would have to heartily agree. Although my tang sight has been on the pictured rifle for some 18, goin' into 19 years. While it doesn't get the use a CAS main match rifle gets, it does go to many a match as a long range rifle and every hunting trip as either the back-up or primary. I would like to see Marbles re-introduce (or even a quality reproduction of) this sight:lsmithhart wrote:Does this seem to be a logical idea (approach)?lsmithhart wrote:I would like to thank you both, I may end up with both. I just readabout a cowboy shooter, he uses the Marbles tang. At a recent event, he broke it off and was unable to continue (at least with any success), so he now uses both. He has a brownell rear sight lowered 2 notches and a Marble tang. If he breaks his tang, he raises his rear (flat) sight and continues. I like that redundant sight idea.
for just that reason.
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Re: "Best" Tang and/or Peep Sight
I just saw that sight...brownell? Yes I think it was called a full buckhorn? But I know I just saw it.
Thanks again, it is my first lever action...I love it.
Thanks again, it is my first lever action...I love it.
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Re: "Best" Tang and/or Peep Sight
http://www.oneraggedhole.com. Also available from Brownells, which might be the easiest anyways as you'll need a replacement Winchester sight to mount it on.
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My criteria for selection is not complicated:
* Quick acquisition of the target
* Improved Accuracy (50 to 125 yards mostly)
* It needs to look like something that would not have out of place on a 1892 Winchester
I truly loved some of the side mount Peep sights by Williams with respect to ease of use and accuracy, but they are just too moderen for what I am looking for.
I've researched brands/types like Pederdoli, Marble, Lyman, Pacific, Creedmoor, and Soule
I have just about firmed up my selection on a Marble's-- but I have not actually every used one. Am I missing anything obvious here?
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Re: "Best" Tang and/or Peep Sight
Actually, the one I pictured simply fits into the dovetail and can fold down so it's out of the way for tang sight use. The one Marble's makes now only comes in a "flat top" version... the full buckhorn would be excellent on a period appearing arm.
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AND... I'm over it!!
No I ain't ready, but let's do it anyway!
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There is a fine line between hobby & obsession!
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Re: "Best" Tang and/or Peep Sight
Not my favorite look, but if it works for you, it's good. I made up my mind, bought the Marbles tang and folding rear sight. It's a done deal.
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Re: "Best" Tang and/or Peep Sight
The Marbles sight can be had in "full buckhorn" and it folds down to make room for the Tang sight. I have just bought them both, can't wait to check them out together. I'll keep you posted.
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I really like the combination, seems right. I haven't shot it yet, but will soon, just looks good mounted. I did buy the flat top rear sight, I liked it.
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Gotta tell you, it was a bit of work getting in fine tuned, but it is nice. i understand now, the need for the tang sight. Faster targeting, better shooting all around.