Stock swap-Many pictures.
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Stock swap-Many pictures.
Spent the last few evenings and this morning replacing the stock on my latest 1893 Marlin acquistion. I expected to replace the buttstock when I won this one, but got a good chuckle when I opened the package and found a stock built from a 2"x6" piece of fir, and bedded with wood putty.
Anyway, I dug through my stocks and found a good donor stock that was tight enough fit that it needed a bit of wood removed around the tangs. It had been rounded over at the receiver, so I needed to work it over to bring it back.
Here's the "original" stock:
I roughed up the mating surfaces and began to mask off all adjacent wood. I also had to buy a repro buttplate, and fit it to the wood:
Next I mixed up Acraglass and applied it to the edges, and brushed all the metal sufaces with grease to relaese the metal, then put it together:
Forearm picture, after I removed the tape from the metal:
After a few hours, I remove the wood from the buttplate and receiver. Best to not let it set completely before trying to remove the wood, as it can be tough the next day!
Since the buttplate was a repro, sanding was done with it in place for a close fit:
Sanding on the wrist was done off the gun, and with careful use of a sanding block to eliminate rounding over. This needs a little more to remove the last of the epoxy and make that dark edge disappear:
Once it was blended in and finish sanded, I applied a thin coat of Tapadero stain, which gives the reddish color used on Marlins and Winchesters. I had to build this up until it closely matched the forearm color, and hope it stays close once I apply finish:
Finished stocks will be buffed out to same sheen as the forearm, once it cures for a few days. I rub them with Behlen Master finish rub, then buff with MinnWax paste later.
I removed the factory rear sight, and made a custom filler blank, then installed a Hepburn receiver sight in the factory holes:
Ready to go to the range:
The object is to make the stocks look like they're the same age as the forearm, not make everything look new on a well aged gun.-Vall
Anyway, I dug through my stocks and found a good donor stock that was tight enough fit that it needed a bit of wood removed around the tangs. It had been rounded over at the receiver, so I needed to work it over to bring it back.
Here's the "original" stock:
I roughed up the mating surfaces and began to mask off all adjacent wood. I also had to buy a repro buttplate, and fit it to the wood:
Next I mixed up Acraglass and applied it to the edges, and brushed all the metal sufaces with grease to relaese the metal, then put it together:
Forearm picture, after I removed the tape from the metal:
After a few hours, I remove the wood from the buttplate and receiver. Best to not let it set completely before trying to remove the wood, as it can be tough the next day!
Since the buttplate was a repro, sanding was done with it in place for a close fit:
Sanding on the wrist was done off the gun, and with careful use of a sanding block to eliminate rounding over. This needs a little more to remove the last of the epoxy and make that dark edge disappear:
Once it was blended in and finish sanded, I applied a thin coat of Tapadero stain, which gives the reddish color used on Marlins and Winchesters. I had to build this up until it closely matched the forearm color, and hope it stays close once I apply finish:
Finished stocks will be buffed out to same sheen as the forearm, once it cures for a few days. I rub them with Behlen Master finish rub, then buff with MinnWax paste later.
I removed the factory rear sight, and made a custom filler blank, then installed a Hepburn receiver sight in the factory holes:
Ready to go to the range:
The object is to make the stocks look like they're the same age as the forearm, not make everything look new on a well aged gun.-Vall
Last edited by marlinman93 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
Very nice
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Looks great!
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
You're a master!
Sincerely,
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
Nice job, well done!!
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
With all your pictures you've succeeded in making me want an 1893 Marlin Rifle.
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
Very nice! So that's how you're supposed to do it
And here I thought I was all clever in using the bedding apoxy
And here I thought I was all clever in using the bedding apoxy
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
Very nice work!
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That is great info, THANKS
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AWESOME
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MarlinMan,
Thank you for posting that. Lots of us can learn from your efforts . I have a question for you. What did you mix in the Accraglass to get the color? I know they supply a stain but its usually black or a dark brown, but yours looks different. Also, I can never seem to get a near perfect match between the wood and the Accraglass, its like you can always see where the wood ends and the Accraglass begins. I can somewhat solve this problem by blackening (read "oilstained") in the whole area a bit but it would be nice not to have to do this.---------------Thanks Sixgun-----------------
Thank you for posting that. Lots of us can learn from your efforts . I have a question for you. What did you mix in the Accraglass to get the color? I know they supply a stain but its usually black or a dark brown, but yours looks different. Also, I can never seem to get a near perfect match between the wood and the Accraglass, its like you can always see where the wood ends and the Accraglass begins. I can somewhat solve this problem by blackening (read "oilstained") in the whole area a bit but it would be nice not to have to do this.---------------Thanks Sixgun-----------------
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Birdman wrote:That is great info, THANKS
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Well, Vall - That "original" stock, certainly had character !
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
Sixgun,Sixgun wrote:MarlinMan,
Thank you for posting that. Lots of us can learn from your efforts . I have a question for you. What did you mix in the Accraglass to get the color? I know they supply a stain but its usually black or a dark brown, but yours looks different. Also, I can never seem to get a near perfect match between the wood and the Accraglass, its like you can always see where the wood ends and the Accraglass begins. I can somewhat solve this problem by blackening (read "oilstained") in the whole area a bit but it would be nice not to have to do this.---------------Thanks Sixgun-----------------
I use the coloring agent that came with the Acraglass. Mostly the brown, but had to add just a pinpoint amount of the black to darken it properly. I sometimes use epoxy coloring agents that I buy from the local TAP Plastic store also, but this one didn't need it. I have red, orange, brown and black from TAP to add when needed. I mix the stain in and put a dab on the stocks to check the match. I start light, and carefully add brown or black until it closely matches.
One tip here I forgot to mention. If your stocks are in very good shape, and just need fitting to the metal, be sure to remove the tape from the wood before the epoxy dries! Leave it on the separtely masked metal until dry. This will make the final sanding less intrusive to the wood. I didn't do this on this project, as the wood needed refinishing to color match it to the forearm.-Vall
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
Vall,
You know you could probably recoup all your costs if you post that "original" buttstock on ebay........
You know you could probably recoup all your costs if you post that "original" buttstock on ebay........
I know a whole lot about very little and nothing about a whole lot.
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
Yea, I'm keeping the 2x6 stock for show and tell!
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+1J Miller wrote:With all your pictures you've succeeded in making me want an 1893 Marlin Rifle.
Joe
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Thanks Vall!!! I learn something new everyday --------------------Sixgun
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Sorry about the minor hijack,
Sixgun,
How long you going to be in Colo.?
Just sent you a letter?
To the PA. address
Sixgun,
How long you going to be in Colo.?
Just sent you a letter?
To the PA. address
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No Hijack-- Funny thing, I once had a fellow who said "Hi" to me at the airport and got arrested. You see, my name is Jack and he said "HI". Oh forget it, I'm an idiot. I'll be home on Sat. You get the ammo OK?-----------Sixgun...Jack.....whatever you want to call me.mescalero1 wrote:Sorry about the minor hijack,
Sixgun,
How long you going to be in Colo.?
Just sent you a letter?
To the PA. address
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everything A-OK, you should have a letter waiting for you
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Vall where do you find Tapadero stain,.
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
My mistake Gregg, I mispelled it, it's Tapadera N-35 stain. I buy it from the guys who make it at the Reno gun show, but you can get it from their web site also:gregg wrote:Vall where do you find Tapadero stain,.
http://www.tapaderaswinchesters.com/
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Re: Stock swap-Many pictures.
Super restoration, Vall. Just out of curiosity, how long did it take you to get her "back to normal?" And is that an original Hepburn sight, or one of the reproductions?
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Took me about 6 hours total. Worked on it a few nights and then finished it on Saturday. The Hepburn sight is from my sight collection. It's one that Larry Osborne at LARC had made with Marlin's permission, not one of the later Parts Unknown Ukranian made sights. I really kept it to collect, but it needed to be on something!-Vallairedaleman wrote:Super restoration, Vall. Just out of curiosity, how long did it take you to get her "back to normal?" And is that an original Hepburn sight, or one of the reproductions?
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