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Back when I had young kids and was building our house I needed a three quarter ton extended cab and drove that for 20 years until mice ate the wiring. These days I don't all around children and pretty much just go down in the river bottoms to get firewood and make the occasional trip to the lumber yard or farm store, so I replaced the 95 fancy truck and about 2018 with a 1983 halftime that had nabi enough tires and a lift kit so I can go down in the river bottom. There's enough rust that if you drop anything in the cab be prepared to pull over and go pick it up off the road behind you, but it does run and it doesn't have any computer stuff.

Since I don't know anything about vehicles but have a friend who does, I told him to find me a $3,000 truck that he could make and good enough shape for my needs with another $1,000 in repairs. I've had it now for about 6 years and the tires that came with it are dry rotted enough they need to be placed. The cheapest I can find is going to be about $800 a piece...!

So I guess it's kind of like when you put a $1,000 scope on a $500 gun. I'm going to wind up with tires that are worth more than the truck is. :? On the other hand, it's not like you can drive a vehicle without tires. I've already had a couple of them get inner tubes put in them with a promise that I only use the vehicle off road.
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Geeze Doc what kind of tires are you talking about!? What are they 44" murders?
I'm looking into tires also, stock size is about $ 240 - 280 each for the Cooper tires I prefer.
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I suppose everything is a lot more expensive than it used to be.

With guns I think prices have been controlled by the cheap plastic pistols.
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Doc, I used to buy my tires at Discount Tires but for the past five years have gotten them at Costco. There's no bargaining at Costco and you have to be a member but you can and should bargain at Discount. If you have one that's not too far away it might be worth your while to visit them. Their starting prices are not their best prices. Bargain like you're at a yard sale or in Mexico! Good luck!
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They are mudder types I guess. 33x12.5 OR15LT

I might see what the cost would be to get smaller ones but with aggressive tread (still decent for river bottom or snow) on smaller rims,and what I could get in trade for the fancy rims on there now.
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I get a lot of my tires at Walmart.com and have them shipped to the house. Saves on sales tax and they are usually cheaper than at the store. Sams club and Costco would be my next two choices.
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OR a 10$ horse and a 40$ saddle :D
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I got 4 new BF Goodrich K2 for my 1 ton Ram. 275-75 17 I think. It was about $1200 at Discount. I've never seen 800 a piece tires.😳
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Yeah - I called back the guy I'd asked, and he was quoting me some fancy replacements for what was on the truck now, and they are some sort of 'sport' tires used for 'mudding' - I found same-size 'off-road' coarse-tread tires I can get FOUR of for $800 - much more to my needs.

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AJMD429 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:45 am , :o :o
Yeah - I called back the guy I'd asked, and he was quoting me some fancy replacements for what was on the truck now, and they are some sort of 'sport' tires used for 'mudding' - I found same-size 'off-road' coarse-tread tires I can get FOUR of for $800 - much more to my needs.

I wish I knew as much about cars and trucks as I do guns and medical stuff... :?

33’s are beefy, but not huge — $800 sounds much better

15” tires are hard to find off the rack anymore. I sourced a new set for my S-15 “parts truck” (hot fodder nomenclature for a basic errand running truck) - it’s lowered a bit and has vintage Corvette style rally wheels so dictated a 60 series tire. First quote was for BF Goodrich Radial T/A’s at about $250 apiece
After telling him the projected use of the truck, Guy eventually ordered a set of Mastercrafts (Cooper manufactured) at half the price . The economies of scale are far different here because these are very small little donuts on my truck compared to the 33’s on yours, but goes to show that in retail, they will try to upswell you on anything
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When it came time to replace the tires on my snowplowing CJ I bought skid steer tires. Aggressive tread and they were cheap. They are only rated for something like 35 MPH but I haven't had it out of low range in more than 35 years.
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33x12.5 OR15LT. The LT part of that designation means Light Truck. LT tires have a stiffer carcass and sidewalls than a tire that would be marked 33x12.5 OR. If you don't need the stiffer sidewalls and carcass, you can save some money there as well.
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Understand that if you don't opt for LT tires you will not have the full load capacity of the truck. But the non LT tires also give a wider footprint when you air down. You give up a bit of ground clearance, but gain some flotation. Everything is a trade off. So think about what you usually carry, and look at the tire weight capacity before you decide. Honestly, most pickups you see on the road today will do just fine with a passenger car rated tire. These truck rarely carry anything more that groceries. But if it's a truck to be used for work that includes even occasional heavy hauling get the LT tires. Loosing a tire when under heavy load can ruin your entire life.

I'll throw in my go to tire for my jeep and all of the pickups I've had. BFG AT KO's. I think they are up to the third generation and the new generation is supposed to have a better ride and handling while not giving anything up. But, if you can find them the older KO2's are likely going for a discount these days.
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AJMD429 wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 6:15 pm .
Back when I had young kids and was building our house I needed a three quarter ton extended cab and drove that for 20 years until mice ate the wiring. These days I don't all around children and pretty much just go down in the river bottoms to get firewood and make the occasional trip to the lumber yard or farm store, so I replaced the 95 fancy truck and about 2018 with a 1983 halftime that had nabi enough tires and a lift kit so I can go down in the river bottom. There's enough rust that if you drop anything in the cab be prepared to pull over and go pick it up off the road behind you, but it does run and it doesn't have any computer stuff.

Since I don't know anything about vehicles but have a friend who does, I told him to find me a $3,000 truck that he could make and good enough shape for my needs with another $1,000 in repairs. I've had it now for about 6 years and the tires that came with it are dry rotted enough they need to be placed. The cheapest I can find is going to be about $800 a piece...!

So I guess it's kind of like when you put a $1,000 scope on a $500 gun. I'm going to wind up with tires that are worth more than the truck is. :? On the other hand, it's not like you can drive a vehicle without tires. I've already had a couple of them get inner tubes put in them with a promise that I only use the vehicle off road.
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I've been seeing ads for Nitto tires, they have a couple good looking off road type tread tires.
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Just get yourself a set of 33” x 10” mudders…..Mudders have softer rubber so you don’t get much more than 30K out of them. I don’t know where your getting 800 a piece for them….i just put a set of top of the line Falcons 33” x 10.5 on my Jeep for $1200.

Air down to about 12 pounds and you’ll go anywhere.

Or…..buy a 10 x 6 trailer which holds twice what a pickup will hold and pull it with your John Deere….or the truck….last month I had 4,000 pounds of stone on my trailer and the Jeep pulled it easily about 4 miles.
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BF Goodrich KO2 ALL TERRAIN is my go to tire on my Silverado , last set I had over 120K miles at $209 each 265x75R16. Recently went up though and price fluctuates around $258 - $275 per. My driving consists of interstate travel ,not much brake usage. Most tires last me 100k .But the 10 ply KO2 is a must for me on stuff pot hole roads. I have cut so many cheap 4 ply tires .
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Pat C wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:09 am BF Goodrich KO2 ALL TERRAIN is my go to tire on my Silverado , last set I had over 120K miles at $209 each 265x75R16. Recently went up though and price fluctuates around $258 - $275 per. My driving consists of interstate travel ,not much brake usage. Most tires last me 100k .But the 10 ply KO2 is a must for me on stuff pot hole roads. I have cut so many cheap 4 ply tires .
This is what I buy. But I’m out at the ranch every weekend. I don’t need such an aggressive tire but I do like the 10 ply construction and I haven’t had a flat tire in many years. This is mesquite country and that’s saying something!
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I run 33x10.50x15 BFG KM2 mudders on my Jeep. They are great tires for a light vehicle. They are fairly soft, and go great cause they flex well with low pressure. Not much in the way of siping so not the best for snow (my Jeep is put up winters). If you are running a heavy vehicle, and doing a lot of on road miles, they will wear quick.
I'm a BFG guy, and Radial ATs are a great tire. They are very good in snow and sand, and the later versions are good in rock compared to earlier ones. However, they suck in the mud, just like any AT.
Nothing goes in the mud or loose like a mudder. It mostly comes down to whether you're willing to put up with the quirks. Road noise and short rotation intervals with constant pressure monitoring. I currently am running Falken Wild Peak M/Ts on my truck. They have been on for 2 years and 30k miles. I am blown away with these tires. I rotate every 2500 (as opposed to 1k on the Jeep) and they are wearing fantastic. They are also incredible in the snow. Best mudder I have ever seen in snow. They have a lot of siping in the tread blocks. I can't recommend these enough.
Mostly, it comes down to how many miles you put on your truck on the road and how much weight you carry. If you haul a lot, I would recommend Good Year Dura Tracs (and I hate Good Year tires). They are very tough and won't cut in the rocks, while giving mud performance between a mudder and AT.
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Check out tirerack.com as well
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Don't know if you have a Tire Rack, but they've got them for $282 each.

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