Kismet wrote:*NO SHRUG*
Jeeps wrote:I will always err on the side of freedom. It isn't just our military that sheds
blood for freedom, suffering is a part of freedom.
Those that followed Jim Jones down to Guyana had the freedom to do so. Yes,
they had children. You can't find a group of people who don't have children, it's
part of the makeup of society they are always present. Jones was a filthy scumbag
who took advantage of people for personal grandstanding. The children were
innocent victims. Welcome to the real world.
That is utter stuff. Children do not need to suffer for "our" freedom. While I agree that, without more evidence, "for the children" is not a reason to take 400 kids into custody, in our civilized society there has to be someone that will advocate for children whose parents refuse to do so. I don't care if the parents in this case do not have a problem with their 14 year old daughter getting married to and having sex with an adult man. It is WRONG; it is ILLEGAL; and I support someone standing up for the children's rights.
Jeeps wrote:You know the type of people in this country who scream that CPS did the right
thing????? Yes, most of them would like to see our children taken away for having
to suffer in a house with firearms present. This is the way they think. If they
don't agree with our lifestyle then our lifestyle should be eradicated.
Nice try. It is a common cry on this board. The government doesn't like pedophiles - gun owners could be next. The government doesn't like terrorists - gun owners could be next. Liberals don't like racists - gun owners could be next. GET OVER IT ALREADY. The vast majority of people in this country do not have a problem with legal gun ownership. Even if CPS's sole goal is to invade this cult and will do so at the drop of a hat, suggesting that going after gun owners is the next step is why the phrase "tin foil hats" gets thrown around. There are plenty of logical reasons to worry about the future of gun ownership because of the problems with illegal gun ownership/use, but sounding the horn every time the government does something you don't like that "gun owners could be next" is nothing but irrational paranoia.
Jeeps wrote:ANYTHING that happens concerning a large group of people will involve children.
Don't let that be a "heart string" they can use to lead you around to do their
bidding.
It's the new "lever" that is used to get their work done.
It's not "for the children" even though they have convinced themselves it is.
It's for what they want and the kids are leverage.
CPS has a lot of power. CPS may at times abuse that power. That simply does not mean that we have to sacrifice children to abuse.
Jeeps wrote:Sad, but true.
Sad? Yes. True? Not a chance.
Michael in NH
"UTTER stuff"? Where is there a town or group of folks that does not have
children present? You want to stand up for childrens rights? Use that college
brought brain and assist the authorities, they obviously need it.
"WITHOUT MORE EVIDENCE" EXACTLY, that is the point we are trying to make
here, you need evidence for a warrant, unless you are going after someone
KISMET doesn't care for I guess.
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"GET OVER IT ALREADY"? "IRRATIONAL PARANOIA"? Are you serious???
Just here in NY the Governor decided that gay/lesbian out of state marriages
will be recognized in NY. (to use you words) "The vast majority" of NY'ers
DO NOT want this to happen.
Please explain the "irrational paranoia" to people who lived in socialist countries
where their arms were stripped from them and then all heck broke loose.
Yes, you will deny that this country is headed down the "socialist road to nowhere".
In my above post I capitalized two facts, please tell me they are wrong.
After that please tell me that in this "democratic republic" we live in we don't
have a problem with politicians/judges making laws up on their own that
"the people" disagree with.
I draw a common sense line from that and I am labeled "irrationally paranoid"? Please...........
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"SACRIFICE CHILDREN"? What exactly do you think I am here, a monster?
All I want is for CPS to follow the law and I am "sacrificing children"?
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I'll try to say this one more time, others have tried to do so to no avail....
I believe bad stuff is happening in the FLDS and would love someone with
the proper authority to do something about it. With all the "media hype" I don't
believe we will ever get to the bottom of this now. "Sad but true".
Every time someone points out what the authorities did wrong someone jumps
out from behind a bush and screams "BUT THEY ARE MOLESTERS".
If they had evidence of molestation I don't believe this post would have
even been started because the TX supremes would not have spanked
the people who broke the law in front of God and everyone.
All "the people" ask for is before you arrest/detain citizens please have the
proper evidence to back up your actions. Is this too much?
I know I probably dished out a few insults your way during these two posts.
I apologize for them, but try to refrain from using "utter stuff", "tin foil hat",
calling people "paranoid". It doesn't feel good to have people try to belittle
things you believe with all your heart.