earthquake casualty

[hfcable]

earthquake threw a bunch of my guns out of the racks...several dings and scratches but one of my favorites got hurt big time.....

model 1894 iin 38/55 made in 1895


here it is with its sister also made in 1895 but in 25/35 caliber



hopefully i can find someone to put humpty dumpty back together again

[ it whispered to me that it wants to go caribou hunting at least once more ]

[fordwannabe]

I usually don’t say this to guys but ...nice pair.🤪
I would think it could be fixed but it stinks it has to be.

[claybob86]

Ouch! I would fix it (or get it fixed) and put a note under the butt plate saying what happened and where and when, for historical purposes.

[OldWin]

Things like that just make me want to cry.
Sorry this happened to your fine rifle.

[Sixgun]

Dang......Niiiiccceeeee rifles Harold!.......Makes me want to cry......but....it is fixable. Would not be hard but would require a refinish....deluxes are usually varnished........remove all finish........glue with the proper glue and allow no runout....... and clamp........sand very very lightly on the glue line......refinish........let dry......reinstall....

The biggest headache would be to match the varnish texture/color with the forend.

Take her out hunting in a snowstorm a few times....let it sit under the bunk between snowstorms....put it in the shed for the rest of the winter.......then do something with your rack system at home. good luck----6

[hfcable]

thanks guys......this repair is beyond my non-existent skills so i will try to find someone who can do it right

it is a very good shooter, perfectly balanced etc as some may recall,i used it to drop 2 caribou at once, that were running full speed down a gravel bar......the great balance and the tang sight just made it seem easy ..... it is a well used but [ until now ] not abused rifle

well, hope it gets to go with me again

[1894c]

+1 on the OUCH... somebody on this great forum should know someone who can fix that levergun. I do like SIX's approach, did that with my Father's Ithaca Deer Slayer, but the Ithaca is not even close to your '94... :)

[GunnyMack]

That's a crying shame! Looks like a clean break, should glue up fine. Might need a couple pins through the wrist but they would be visible, would draw attention to the break.
A competent smith should be able to fix it, if not find a furniture maker or antique restorer

[Pitchy]

Bummer for sure

[jdad]

I think Marlinman recommended these guys a while ago. They must be good if the backlog is up to 24 months.

http://www.stockfixrs.com/

[twobit]

How in the world do you use that peep sight on the 25-35 rifle at the top? It is WAY to close to the eye isn't it??

Michael

[Bill in Oregon]

Harold, just a beautiful pair of rifles, I can very heartily recommend Dennis Smith, the "Stock Doctor," in Tygh Valley, Oregon.

http://www.thestockdr.com/contact.php

[Pete44ru]

How in the world do you use that peep sight on the 25-35 rifle at the top?

It is WAY to close to the eye isn't it??

Nope...…

The closer the aperture to the eye, the better/faster it is - provided it's far enough from the shooter's eye that it won't impact the eye under recoil.


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[hfcable]

How in the world do you use that peep sight on the 25-35 rifle at the top? It is WAY to close to the eye isn't it??

Michael

it is close, and I would only use it on a light recoiling rifle, like this 25/35

[hfcable]

Harold, just a beautiful pair of rifles, I can very heartily recommend Dennis Smith, the "Stock Doctor," in Tygh Valley, Oregon.

http://www.thestockdr.com/contact.php

thank you.... I am going to give them a call.

I have had this rifle since the early 1980s; it is truly a favorite. bought it at an auction; mailed in my bid [ no on line back then ] cost me all of 335 $ plus a little bit for shipping !

[gamekeeper]

Things like that just make me want to cry.
Sorry this happened to your fine rifle.

+ 1

[M. M. Wright]

It's a shame but you will always remember it. I agree the peep on the 25-35 is very near the eye but probably not a problem on that caliber. I'm sure my SRC is lighter and it's kinda like shooting a rim magnum. I have a rolling block in 11.7 x 51R that taps my glasses every shot with the tang sight that is on it. I'm not changing anything on it.

[AJMD429]

A good woodworker can repair almost anything and make it look good AND be strong, thanks to the wonders of acrylics and epoxies.

I've seen even Spalted Wood used for strength-requiring applications, when reinforced with enough synthetic stuff in or under it.

[Griff]

[Merle]

That's a crying shame! Looks like a clean break, should glue up fine. Might need a couple pins through the wrist but they would be visible, would draw attention to the break.
A competent smith should be able to fix it, if not find a furniture maker or antique restorer

if you recess the pins and put a plug over them, they will be much harder to see.....

[AJMD429]

That's a crying shame! Looks like a clean break, should glue up fine. Might need a couple pins through the wrist but they would be visible, would draw attention to the break.
A competent smith should be able to fix it, if not find a furniture maker or antique restorer

if you recess the pins and put a plug over them, they will be much harder to see.....

A good woodworker can place the pins and any other pegs or reinforcements entirely on the inside so nothing is visible.

[hfcable]

That's a crying shame! Looks like a clean break, should glue up fine. Might need a couple pins through the wrist but they would be visible, would draw attention to the break.
A competent smith should be able to fix it, if not find a furniture maker or antique restorer

if you recess the pins and put a plug over them, they will be much harder to see.....

A good woodworker can place the pins and any other pegs or reinforcements entirely on the inside so nothing is visible.

that’s what i want!

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

As clean as that break is it can be glued using a thin CA glue. This brand is thin as water so it wicks into the crack really well.
Starbond EM-02 Super Fast Thin, PREMIUM

If it won't clamp use surgical tubing wrapped around it to clamp it together. Flood it in under the tang areas paying attention to over flow. Wipe it off with a clean lint free rag before it sets.

This stuff is strong. If you get a good fit you won't need to pin it.

[Blaine]

Heart breaking...

[hfcable]

As clean as that break is it can be glued using a thin CA glue. This brand is thin as water so it wicks into the crack really well.
Starbond EM-02 Super Fast Thin, PREMIUM

If it won't clamp use surgical tubing wrapped around it to clamp it together. Flood it in under the tang areas paying attention to over flow. Wipe it off with a clean lint free rag before it sets.

This stuff is strong. If you get a good fit you won't need to pin it.

thanks! that sounds perfect to me...maybe I could even do it myself.

[Sixgun]

In lieu of surgical tubing....wait...your a doctor......mmmmm.....ok, for others who are not heroin/speed addicts or doctors who don't have surgical tubing, take a bicycle tire tube and cut it length wise about 1/2" or an inch wide. Works wonders for clamping odd shaped wood.

I saw it this octagon 1899 Savage in 38-55 at a show some 20-25 years ago........the buttstock was black with some kind of a soot coating...dunno.....I paid a huge $400 for it and coming home I found out why I got it cheap....everything else on the rifle was near perfect....but a black stock? Took off the buttplate off then started for the bolt that holds the stock on......poof! The stock came off in my hands with the front end still bolted to the receiver.

That's why it had "black pelosi " on the wrist. The wrist was severely oil soaked with the wood being mushy. A totally ruined stock. Not for me, where there is a will there is a way....I wanted to keep this rifle 100% original.

After many repeated applications of finish remover and/or oven cleaner, bleach baths.....the grease was gone and the grain was raised. Using a quality wood glue , both ends were very very carefully pressed back together with every strand of wood going where they were when the tree was growing. Like Nate Kiowa Jones says....no pins needed if done correctly.

Only a very slight sanding at the crack line.....not altering the stock at all.......several coats of Formbly's tung oil hand rubbed varnish and presto! It would take a magnifying glass to see where the crack was and that is only if you KNEW there was a crack there. A few years later that rifle came with me on an elk hunt in Colorado.....didn't shoot nothing but I was confidant in its strength.-----Hey, I'm a peon with zero training...you can do it!------6

[GunnyMack]

For a cross grain break just gluing the joint would be fine. In this case the break is with the grain. Sure there is lots of glue surface but it will be a weak joint. A couple pins through the joint will add strength to the joint.

With recoil being transfered through the wrist a long grain split will tend to crack again.

Think of karate, the boards they break are long grain because it will break- just try to break a board across the grain.

Just my 2 cents and 35 years of wood working.

[Sixgun]

Gunny.....on second thought...take a look at the tang area where the wrist meets the receiver........those chunks that came off from the corners......tang/receiver.......where it's near impossible to "make right". Possible inlay with some serious luck involved to make the grain match........Harold....look carefully around the crash zone for small pieces of wood...they would help.

A deluxe stock is worth the trouble and cost to have a professional do it.-----6

[hfcable]

Gunny.....on second thought...take a look at the tang area where the wrist meets the receiver........those chunks that came off from the corners......tang/receiver.......where it's near impossible to "make right". Possible inlay with some serious luck involved to make the grain match........Harold....look carefully around the crash zone for small pieces of wood...they would help.

A deluxe stock is worth the trouble and cost to have a professional do it.-----6

i picked up every one of the small pieces and have them in a little plastic zip lock

hc

[missionary5155]

Greetings
First... that saddens my heart !!! That was a beautiful chunk of wood. I sure would try to save it.
Living in Southern Peru on the "Rim of fire" we have had stuff smack the floor also... But thanks to God never anything of great value or so beautiful and useful as your Winchester.

[hfcable]

forgot to post a follow up of the casualties recovery: came out of surgery fine and has stuck with rehab and here is the poor fellow back on the rack and ready to serve again;

[ been back for a while, though I have one more that hasn't been finished yet ]





on the second image you can just see part of the 'fault line' but it is quite solid and serviceable

[AJMD429]

Awesome.....!

[hfcable]

he did a very nice job. I really like this rifle, have taken several caribou with it, and it is just one of those guns that feels completely right in your hand !

[gamekeeper]

All's well that ends well so they say, beautiful job, really pleased to see back to its former glory...

[OldWin]

So glad to hear this. Thanks for posting.

I hate the thought of damage or destruction to these pieces of history.
Six recently shipped a beautiful 95 up to my son in your neck of the woods. I was a nervous wreck till it got there safe.

[Old Savage]

That history makes the rifle more valuable in my view. It is probably stronger now than originally.

[hfcable]

So glad to hear this. Thanks for posting.

I hate the thought of damage or destruction to these pieces of history.
Six recently shipped a beautiful 95 up to my son in your neck of the woods. I was a nervous wreck till it got there safe.

I like those 95s ! what caliber?

[hfcable]

That history makes the rifle more valuable in my view. It is probably stronger now than originally.

you are so right ! they will tell the tale of the old mans rifle....I hope

[OldWin]

So glad to hear this. Thanks for posting.

I hate the thought of damage or destruction to these pieces of history.
Six recently shipped a beautiful 95 up to my son in your neck of the woods. I was a nervous wreck till it got there safe.

I like those 95s ! what caliber?

It's a .35WCF takedown. Beautiful rifle. I'm very happy for my son. Six did great by him. Sent him dies and brass too.

[hfcable]

just sold one of those, about a year ago … takedown version too. I had gotten it in a group of items and had huge amount of brass, the dies, and everything needed.

I have several 95s and just realized I would never get around to using that one. it went to a collector who is also going to hunt with it.

I have an original 95s in 405, 95 SRC 30/06, 95 Russian musket in 7.62x54R, 95 NRA musket 30/06 and had to part with the 35 WCF

that is a good caliber !

[OldWin]

Good stuff sir! Yes, my son is pretty excited with it. We are supposed to go up for a visit this summer if we can travel. I can't wait to see it.

[octagon]

Hfcable I'd be interested to know what adhesive was used on that repair, it appears to be well done.

[hfcable]

I will ask...I decided not to tackle it myself and had a local gunsmith who really is a wood worker more than just a gunsmith

[octagon]

Danke

[Ysabel Kid]

I'm happy I didn't see this when you first posted it. I think I'm going to be sick... or cry...