Browning 1886 Rifle 45-70?

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:19 pm

I went by my local gun shop after church this morning and he showed me a like new Browning 1886 45-70 rifle octagon barrel. He wanted 1179.00 or near that. It has a few safe scratches. He said it was unfired. I don't need one but it is tempting. Hows the price?

gary rice · Post by **gary rice** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:37 pm

from what ive seen them priced at, i'd probably buy it.

ArcticGoose · Post by **ArcticGoose** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:51 pm

Sounds like a pretty fair price to me. It's about what you see them for up here when they show up. If your really thinking about a new 45-70 86 let me know. I thinking very seriously about putting my NIB Winchester 1886 OBPGCBFM takedown up for sale. I feel another original calling my name but will have to thin the herd a bit first.

brucew44guns · Post by **brucew44guns** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:23 pm

I ordered a Br. 86 about a year before they issued them, got it in early 1986 and paid 479.00 NIB. But the price you just quoted for that one you saw is in line with many I've seen here and there lately. That is one remarkable rifle, I've fired mine a few times, but it just has a heft, size, and look of "business" about it that convinces me I will never sell it. I have the SRC still virgin setting next to it. Get the gun, if it is unfired or about ASNIB and really primo, you will be glad you did it, especially 5 years from now and you see them for 1800.00. Maybe you could ofer him 1100.00, lay the cash down on the bench and see what he does.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:38 pm

that price is close to what I paid, thinking I paid 1200 (for an SRC)a few months ago. I love mine. If you are considering one, then you should pull the trigger. They shoot and function like a dream. My favorite 45-70 rifle to date.

Old Time Hunter · Post by **Old Time Hunter** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:26 pm

They are very nice rifles:

Paul Jenkins · Post by **Paul Jenkins** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:42 pm

Finest piece of work I've owned. Gave $1200 for my rifle a yr. ago in very near new cond. It would take a lot more for me to part with it.

TedH · Post by **TedH** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:37 pm

I've seen them sell for a good deal more than that, and doubt you'll find one for less. Make him an offer and see where it goes.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:56 pm

I'd be surprised if it is still there at that price!

Jaguarundi · Post by **Jaguarundi** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:13 pm

Yup,sounds like a very good price for my neck of the woods.

71fan · Post by **71fan** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:42 am

That price is just right. That rifle is just right.

Mine was $1650 (OTD) with $450 worth of MVA sights, which puts it right where yours is.

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KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:46 am

I'd say the price is in the ballpark. If you are unsure if you want to keep the gun in its original configuration, you can always modify it. Malamute, on this forum, made a superb short rifle out of his that, in my opinion, helps to make the rifle more portable and fast.

Post by **Hobie** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:13 am

Yep, Malamute made a heck of a rifle.

rangerider7 · Post by **rangerider7** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:12 am

The problem is I already have an old Winchester 1886 rifle and a 1886 lightweight in 33 cal. I shoot the LW much more than the rifle. The rifle is a 90% 38-56 made in 1888. I thought this was a good price but I really don't need it but I love 86s and 92s.

I guess I'll see what he will trade for.

Jarhead · Post by **Jarhead** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:21 am

What a beautiful rifle! Wish I could get one, but I just bought another Model 71, so I'm out of the game for awhile...

Pathfinder09 · Post by **Pathfinder09** » Tue May 13, 2008 3:07 pm

I bought a delux takedown 1886 NIB, Miroku Manufacture and paid $1600.00. To me it was worth it, it is a beautiful rifle and is a great shooter . I'll use it for hunting. I don't have safe queens, I have working guns. So in response to your question, I think it probably is a good price.

I saw and original 71 in a gun shop today that was nice but had been used alot and they wanted $1200.00

Whaever it is worth to you is the question. Good luck.

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:38 pm

Is there a difference price wise in the JapChester 1886EL and the BrownChester you're talking about? I got my JapChester 1886EL for 850 IIRC....

Pete44ru · Post by **Pete44ru** » Tue May 13, 2008 6:27 pm

It's a sin to patronize a gun shop, and then actually buy a rifle on a Sunday !
But, I'm proud of you - You've done the right thing !

Now, where was that gun shop ? ( I wanna chastize them.

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Paul Jenkins · Post by **Paul Jenkins** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:09 pm

I think my Browning '86, .45-70 is the finest piece of rifle workmanship I have ever owned. I gave $1250 for my used , but near new 2 yrs. ago. I did have to do work on the trigger. I can get under 1" at 100yds more often than not. Buy it quick. It will also handle any load your man enough to handle.

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:38 pm

I think it's a good price and you should do whatever to pick it up. I paid $1,450 for my Winnie/Miroku '86 in 45-90 last year. So I think the price of the Browning is a good price.

Naphtali · Post by **Naphtali** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:15 pm

There are references in this thread to Miroku M1886 and Browning M1886. I understand Miroku is the manufacturer. Are these M1886s the same as USRA M1886s? If not, please identify the differences.

Grizzly Adams · Post by **Grizzly Adams** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:53 pm

Naphtali wrote:There are references in this thread to Miroku M1886 and Browning M1886. I understand Miroku is the manufacturer. Are these M1886s the same as USRA M1886s? If not, please identify the differences.

Short version!

The Browning 1886s were produced by Browning in the mid 80s. They were actually manufactured by Miruku in Japan. They are very close to the original Winchester 1886 in terms of having the half cock safety, and no rebounding hammer. They are of excellent quality.

The USRAC/Winchester 1886 was, and remains, a limited edition, and sometimes uncatalogued item. As of late, most have been available from Davidson's. These are also manufactured by Miruku in Japan. They differ from the Browning marked 1886 by the addition of a tang safety and a rebounding hammer. They have also been available in take down versions, and well as the 45-90 chambering. Those options were never available on the Browning rifles. They have also produced the 1886 in an EL or Extra Light variation. As with everything made by Miruku, the quality is excellent!

hfcable · Post by **hfcable** » Wed May 14, 2008 12:53 pm

you can always fix it up the way i did mine years ago; started with one of the brownings and made it my favorite rifle in terms of looks, handling, and function overall:

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... light=1886

or see it here:

Blaine · Post by **Blaine** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:28 pm

With probably less than 100 rounds, my USRAC 1886EL has had a half dozen light strikes and FTFs.......How hard is it to replace the rebounding hammer/half cock feature?? This could be my favorite shooter if it were not for that.....maybe a canadate for conversion to 50-110 at the same time?

gary rice · Post by **gary rice** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:50 pm

hfcable wrote:you can always fix it up the way i did mine years ago; started with one of the brownings and made it my favorite rifle in terms of looks, handling, and function overall:

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... light=1886

or see it here:

looks like treebone's checkerd buttplate.

Pathfinder09 · Post by **Pathfinder09** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:57 pm

I had several light strikes when I first took it out, but did not have any this last weekend, where I put 40 rounds through it. Shot flawlessly and darn accurate at 100 yds with the original iron sights. I have the USRAC rifle also, rebopunding hammer aand tang safety. I've got about 80 rounds through her now.

hfcable · Post by **hfcable** » Wed May 14, 2008 2:28 pm

gary rice wrote:
hfcable wrote:you can always fix it up the way i did mine years ago; started with one of the brownings and made it my favorite rifle in terms of looks, handling, and function overall:

http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... light=1886

or see it here:

looks like treebone's checkerd buttplate.

actually it is an old original buttplate, never used, that i had found for the project, but may be exactly the same anyway.

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Wed May 14, 2008 4:21 pm

Hey! It's Wed. and I haven't pics of your "new" rifle... did ya wait too long?

71fan · Post by **71fan** » Wed May 14, 2008 5:22 pm

Sorry for the hijack....

hfcable,

How long is the barrel on your custom '86? It looks like you lopped off 2 or 4 inches. I just recently traded into an original '86 in the same configuration but a 26" barrel. I think a half octagon button mag in 22" or 24" would be just about perfect.

hfcable · Post by **hfcable** » Wed May 14, 2008 5:34 pm

it is 24" and i think they shortened it to get rid of the front magazine dovetail, and also because the pictures from madis winchester book that i asked them to copy were this lenght. it balances superbly!

1886 · Post by **1886** » Wed May 14, 2008 6:48 pm

A B 86 would tough to pass up. In fact I would buy it. 1886.

Post by **Hobie** » Wed May 14, 2008 7:12 pm

Cable,

I love that rifle. Neat to the extreme. I might have to do one but I won't checker the stocks and I'll get a steel Lyman receiver sight for it...

Naphtali,

Brownings don't have the rebounding hammer or tang safety the Winchesters made by Miroku have. That's the differences.

hfcable · Post by **hfcable** » Wed May 14, 2008 9:51 pm

Hobie wrote:Cable,

I love that rifle. Neat to the extreme. I might have to do one but I won't checker the stocks and I'll get a steel Lyman receiver sight for it...

Naphtali,

Brownings don't have the rebounding hammer or tang safety the Winchesters made by Miroku have. That's the differences.

my buddy and I just picked out pictures in the madis book of a few that we liked and had the guy copy it, checkering and all; there are a number of options including receiver sights that would look good and work well, though for looks and authenticity i would get a repro 'climin' lyman' receiver sight if i were going that way; they really look good and work well [at least originals do].
you ought to go for it!

MikeNV · Post by **MikeNV** » Wed May 14, 2008 10:22 pm

How does the Browning 1886 45-70 shoot the 405gr cast or jacketed bullets? I had heard that they did well with the 300gr bullets but was that great with the heavier ones.... but I want to hear from current owners.

Thanks

1886 · Post by **1886** » Thu May 15, 2008 5:52 am

MikeNV wrote:How does the Browning 1886 45-70 shoot the 405gr cast or jacketed bullets? I had heard that they did well with the 300gr bullets but was that great with the heavier ones.... but I want to heard from current owner

Thanks

I have had super results with the Cast Permormance 460gr WFN. 1886.

KirkD · Post by **KirkD** » Thu May 15, 2008 6:32 am

Cable, you've done a gorgeous job on your '86. First class!

hfcable · Post by **hfcable** » Thu May 15, 2008 12:19 pm

thanks Kirk; and it is a real shooter with most any bullet weight; handles 400 grainers at 2000 fps, though this is not something i want to do frequently!

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