Winchester 94's

[Canuck Bob]

I have a 92 Deluxe Takedown Winoku 92. I am pleased with the gun and it is the nicest firearm I own. At first I didn't like the safety but in the end it is no issue. If one can afford it they are a fine rifle.

[JerryB]

I was going to say something along those lines only worded different, Thanks Griff.

[Lastmohecken]

All I know is I went down the road of buying the 95's and 86's with the rebounding hammer and top tang safety, and I have owned model 94 angle ejects with and without safeties, and they are all gone now. I have been fortunate enough to replace them with Pre-64's and Brownings, and I will buy no more of the redesigned Japchesters, especially model 94's, because there are just too many originals available for about the same money to put up with the modern foolishness of the lawyered up current crop.

[vancelw]

Makes one wonder what changes have affected all those that have left

Some folks need others to genuflect more than most here are willing. Others don't feel they have any more to learn... and others have taught themselves out.

Profound statement! +1

Yep. Others are in jail.

[bonusmarple]

Some don't like the Mirokus some like them. Thank God for the free market so we can buy what we want.

I do want a nice pre-64 for a collector piece.

[AJMD429]

Makes one wonder what changes have affected all those that have left

Some folks need others to genuflect more than most here are willing. Others don't feel they have any more to learn... and others have taught themselves out.

Yep...

[Booger Bill]

Explain to me just what a rebounding hammer is and why is it widely disliked? I dont like the visible safety either. I own a half dozen older Winchester levers without them. Glad I do. I would like a 92 in .256 Win mag. I have seen one done up that way.

[Malamute]

The rebounding hammers set at half cock when at rest. The mainspring strut pushes the hammer forward, and it pushes it backwards, if that makes sense. When cocked and fired, the hammer momentum overides the tension from half cock and allows it to fire, then it snaps it back to halfcock. Part of the problem is the trigger pull is often crummy, and with the mainspring holding the hammer back on its forward half of it travewl, they sometimes have problems with ignition reliability.

It makes sense safety wise, as it automatically goes to safe when fired, but they are not really tuned well from the factory in most cases. They can be tuned a bit for a better pull and less tension on the forward part of the travel, but I dont know if its always successful. Many simply change out the parts for regular half cock parts, though they are getting harder to find.

[DPris]

This system places more tension on the hammer against the bolt as the action opens.
Requires more effort to cycle the action, as a part of that heavier trigger pull.
Denis

[Booger Bill]

So the company did it for safety`s sake for novice`s at the price of a worse trigger and reliability?

[DPris]

Essentially, yes.
Denis