Hello, New to board and a question.

Str8man · Post by **Str8man** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:18 pm

I'm new here and thought I should introduce myself.
My name is Dave and I am 47 and live in Northwest Montana.
I have several Winchesters, a couple of Uberti Copy's and a Pedersoli Sharps for my levergun collection so far.
I also collect WWII era shootin irons and single action colts or colt style revolvers.
My question is.
I inherited an original model 92 Winchester octagon barreled rifle from My grandfather when he passed away in 1984.
It is an odd one.
It was made in 1914 and was originally a 32-20.
I wish I had payed more attention but he told me he had this rifle rebored to 357 magnum sometime in the 1950's.
I have looked and I cannot tell if it is actually rebored or sleeved.
The outer barrel still has all the original winchester markings so it was not completely rebarreled.
I have read this was a fairly common conversion in the 50's but it's the only one I have ever personally seen.
They did a very good job whoever did it as it is impossible to tell if it has a sleeve or a rebore.
I never thought to ask him how it was done.
I use this rifle and it is an excellent shooter and I have taken 13 deer with it.
Does anyone know how these conversions were done?
It functions flawlessly.
Thanks.

rjohns94 · Post by **rjohns94** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:19 pm

welcome to the fire

kimwcook · Post by **kimwcook** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:20 pm

Can't answer your question but I can welcome you to the forum. Welcome. Someone will come by, Joe or Griff or a number of others and answer your question.

crs · Post by **crs** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:23 pm

My 92 conversion was done with a new barrel, but that was done by a previous owner and may have been because the original one was worn out.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:41 pm

I would say that if it still has the original markings it's probably a re-bore.
This one is a rebarrel.

But I recently had a 32-20 rebored to 357m. The 32 bore was bad.

LeverBob · Post by **LeverBob** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:41 pm

Bought time ya' came back home Pard

Stick around, we need everyone we can get.

LeverBob

Str8man · Post by **Str8man** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:18 pm

Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:I would say that if it still has the original markings it's probably a re-bore.
This one is a rebarrel.

But I recently had a 32-20 rebored to 357m. The 32 bore was bad.

OK, Mine's not quite that pretty.
It shows a bit of use but is still in very good condition.
I hope this pic is not too big.

Post by **Ysabel Kid** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:26 pm

Nice picture!

Welcome to the fire!!!

MikeS. · Post by **MikeS.** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:39 pm

Nice rifle and welcome home.

Nate Kiowa Jones · Post by **Nate Kiowa Jones** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:56 pm

Mine didn't look as good as yours when I got it. Plus, it was a single shot. Whoever rebarreled it never got the timing right to make it function. Once I got it running right I refinished it.

95fan · Post by **95fan** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:58 pm

Very nice winnie, welcome to the fire.

Str8man · Post by **Str8man** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:09 pm

Thanks for all the welcomes.
I'll have more questions soon enough.
I have a 94 Winchester project gun that I am working on.
It was pretty neglected and was given to me with a missing buttstock and numerous internal parts.
It has a perfect bore which was about it's only saving grace.
I have it functional again and have replaced the wood.
The wood is reproduction walnut that needed final fitting but it's coming along.
I am waiting on a SRC buttplate I ordered about 3 weeks ago and 3 screws before it gets final wood and metal fitting and finishing.

JReed · Post by **JReed** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:11 pm

Excelent first post.
Welcome aboard.

Jaguarundi · Post by **Jaguarundi** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:29 am

Nice first post

!Keep us updated on your 94 project.

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:09 am

Please be seated, nice to see someone come to the fire with credendials; we hope to of assistance

mescalero1 · Post by **mescalero1** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:09 am

forgot the " be "

Griff · Post by **Griff** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:46 am

Welcome to the Forum, nice to see someone's projects. Looking forward to your 94!

brucew44guns · Post by **brucew44guns** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:02 am

13 deer? I'd say that gun has earned it's keep. Welcome to the forum, you'll enjoy it.

dkmlever · Post by **dkmlever** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:48 am

Welcome! What??? 13 deer with the lowley 357 mag, according to the experts that is a punny caliber and can't be used for deer

Are you sure it wasn't rechambered for the 357-400/388 super short mag?

RIHMFIRE · Post by **RIHMFIRE** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:15 am

Welcome
Northwest Montana....you lucky dog....
I see from you post you have a pretty nice collection
Your gonna fit right in here......
When are you gonna invite us up to shoot?

Post by **Hobie** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:17 pm

Welcome to the forum!

Str8man · Post by **Str8man** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:54 pm

dkmlever wrote:Welcome! What??? 13 deer with the lowley 357 mag, according to the experts that is a punny caliber and can't be used for deer
Are you sure it wasn't rechambered for the 357-400/388 super short mag?

Yep,
I don't know how many My Grandfather shot with it but it was quite a few.
I have got 13 with this particular rifle myself.
I like to take it out for sentimental reasons.
I think my Gandpa would enjoy the fact I actually use it rather than leave it sitting collecting dust somewhere.
I use .357 Winchester Silvertips in it and have never had to shoot a deer twice.
I will admit that I live in a heavily timbered area and probably have never shot one at over 70 yards and most shots here even with a 30-06 are in the 30 - 40 yard range but it still does a good job on deer.
For elk I use my 45-70 sharps.
I have used my 30-06's on both deer and elk but I have gotten nostagic and prefer the old lever guns and occasionally a flintlock these days.

Dastook · Post by **Dastook** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:00 pm

Welcome to the fire, pull up a log and sit a spell. Sounds like you must be from Kalispell? I'm from Great Falls originally. Lived in the South for 20 years now. Can't wait to see the 94 when finished.

Str8man · Post by **Str8man** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:31 pm

Dastook wrote:Welcome to the fire, pull up a log and sit a spell. Sounds like you must be from Kalispell? I'm from Great Falls originally. Lived in the South for 20 years now. Can't wait to see the 94 when finished.

Actually I live in the Yaak north of Libby.
It's a bit of a microclimate here.
It's the only rainforest in the state of Montana.
We still have a couple feet of snow on the ground which is odd for this time of the year.
I seriously thought about moving south myself this year.
Every year the older I get actually.
It's been one long snowy winter.
My wife shops in Kalispell once a month.
I'm waiting on parts for that 94.
I ordered a SRC buttplate for it and it seems to be taking it's time getting here.
It's a repro buttplate.
I'll probably have to make a whole new post about that rifle.
It's a 1976 model that I removed the front ramp on, Mig welded the screw slots up and moved the barrel band foreward like on the old 94's.
I took a stirrup type hammer from an old turn of the century 94 and hand filed and dremeled it to the same shape on the underside of the 1976 hammer so it will use the coil spring type mainspring.
I added a remanufactured 92-94 SRC buttstock and long type forearm.
I was told that they wouldn't fit on a newer 94 but the roughed out blanks are slightly oversized and with a bit of carving and hand fitting they will fit.
I'm not making this gun appear to be old to fool anyone, I just like the looks of the older Winchesters.
This one was kind of neglected and had some rust on it and had been salvaged for some parts when it was given to me.
Since I had nothing invested in it I thought it would be fun to make it look like an old original since I had to buy replacement parts anyway.
The loading gate and high serial number will be a dead giveaway to anyone who really knows Winchesters so it's not intended to deceive anyone.
I don't believe the loading gates will interchange and I don't want to buy one to see if I can make it work like I did on the old style hammer.
I plan on doing a rust brown antique patina type finish on it when it is all fit and finished.
It's just a fun project.
I have plenty of stuff for shooting so It's just something to play with.
I kind of felt sorry for it sitting under a friend of mines workbench and one day he just told me to take it home as he was never going to do anything with it.
It's actually turning out nicer than I expected.
Boy do I ramble on or what? sorry.

Bullard4075 · Post by **Bullard4075** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:20 am

Welcome.
Downplay Montana every chance ya git.
Tutherwise they'll all be movin up here with us.

As it is I have to use my elbows alot.