Blaine

[rjohns94]

What accuracy are you having with tour Ruger scout rifle
. Chuck hawks found it to be 1-3 inches at 50 yards. Same for you?

[AJMD429]

Until I mount a 32x (or greater) SCOPE on a rifle, I never judge it's "accuracy"...

Even if a rifle is destined to be a 'short range' carbine, with open or red-dot sights, I will still give it an initial workout at the range with my old BSA 32x scope, just to see what the GUN can do, withoug the limitation of the typical crappy 'factory open sights', or even the limitation of my old eyes with decent 'peep' sights.

Even if a gun is 'destined' to be equipped with a compact, all-metal, non-optic sight like THIS...


I will still TEST the gun with a sight like THIS...


....just to see it's REAL potential...

[Blaine]

When I got back from my trip, my range was closed, then I was hunting for a bit, then it was the holidays and I still have not got out with it yet I hope it does a little better than that

[rjohns94]

Would be interested to hear. Chuck hawk's report said he had it in a sled and shot 4 types of ammo and had that accuracy. I wouldn't call it accurate, repeatable, but not accurate. The article turned me off the idea of the rifle as a great setup if it's true. I would expect any rifle coming off the factory floor to be able to do MOA at the very least.

[OldWin]

I haven't shot mine with anything more than the 2.5x IER Leupold. With 150gr Sierra's over IMR3031 it chewed a ragged hole at 50yrds. At 100yrds it opened up to about 1.75 but the crosshairs cover a good portion of the target.
This is the first report I've heard about poor accuracy from a GSR. All the people I talk to who own them are very happy with performance of these rifles.
That being said, I think people who judge a scout rifle's value from the bench are missing the point of the concept.

[Blaine]

I haven't shot mine with anything more than the 2.5x IER Leupold. With 150gr Sierra's over IMR3031 it chewed a ragged hole at 50yrds. At 100yrds it opened up to about 1.75 but the crosshairs cover a good portion of the target.
This is the first report I've heard about poor accuracy from a GSR. All the people I talk to who own them are very happy with performance of these rifles.
That being said, I think people who judge a scout rifle's value from the bench are missing the point of the concept.

This is about what I've heard from a couple owners. If mine shoots minute of pop can at a 100yds it's probably the best I can hold anyway....

[Streetstar]

I am super interested in the new Mossberg 308 MVP PatrolRifle for this type of action, but I'm starting to get too many irons in the fire this early in the year anyway

Supposedly takes either M14 mags, or proprietary mags, so would be a neat companion gun to anybody with an M1 a

[Blaine]

I am super interested in the new Mossberg 308 MVP PatrolRifle for this type of action, but I'm starting to get too many irons in the fire this early in the year anyway

Supposedly takes either M14 mags, or proprietary mags, so would be a neat companion gun to anybody with an M1 a

I might have gone that way, but, I didn't know about them when I got this one......

[Rusty]

I am super interested in the new Mossberg 308 MVP PatrolRifle for this type of action, but I'm starting to get too many irons in the fire this early in the year anyway

Supposedly takes either M14 mags, or proprietary mags, so would be a neat companion gun to anybody with an M1 a

I heard a Mossberg Company rep on Guntalk.com saying that the .release of the .308 was delayed because they wanted to make sure it would work with M1A and AR type mags.

To get your best groups sight your rifle so it hits the bullseye when you have a 6 o'clock hold. If you don't, your aiming point will be wiped out with the bullet holes.

[OldWin]

My reservations with M14 mags in a bolt is the stiffness of the mag spring. I think it will make the action very stiff in a bolt rifle. This is reportedly one of the reasons Ruger didn't use them. That, and the angle. M14 mags sit at an angle in an M14 and it wasn't going to fit right in the GSR.
I was all for the M14 mag idea at first as I own M1A's. The more I learned, the more reluctant I became. As far as that goes, I'd rather have a clip guide with a floorplate than detatchable mags on a scout rifle.

[madman4570]

Well,
We mounted a scope which I gave to my nephew on his Scout and we will see in about an hour what this gun does.
It's bore sighted as of 10 mins. ago and we will get it going as daylight comes to full bloom.

Now,
Couple things on this one to consider, This is with the 16.5" barrel not the 18"
We are using cheap ammo. Got two boxes of the Federal Blue Box 150gr Power Shok stuff.
We, I mean I will do the main testing(better shot that him)
My shooting bench is put up in garage so will be using a 5" oak sapling offhand position using tree as rest. Don't fret cause that is dead still for me.
Will shoot second box, 4 (5)shot groups for accuracy. 2 at 50yds, then 2 at 100yds.
Gun will be sighted in at 100yds.

The Scope on gun is my 4 year old Burris fixed 4X Compact.


bye!

[madman4570]

OK.

Here is what I found with the Scout rifle used today.
We had to wait until 11:00am cause the wind was too much for reliable results.

Here is what I came up with those 3" @ 50yd groups as stated above.
One of four things.
1)That rare occasion defective gun, possibly bad barrel
2) Poorly manufactured ammo, usually from what I have seen if the ammo was manufactured to tight tolerances though it might not shoot as well as some other ammo---3" groups at 50yds on a bench if the gun is fine and the shooter does his thing very rare I see it.
3) Rare occasion of items 1) and 2) not likely though.
4) poor shooting by tester also unlikely.

Here is what I got with this Scout 16.5" rifle with 4X Burris

50yds shot (2) 5 shot groups the first being .69" and the second being .62" ( combined .65" )

100yds shot (2) 5 shot groups the first being 1.41" and the second being 1.63" ( combined 1.52" )

Remember this was from a tree rest standing. Though it was dead solid when I touched them off.

This gun is extremely well built.
The feel of rifle and its handiness was awesome. The trigger felt very crisp with no slack and it felt around 3.5lbs.

I am sure it would even due better with match ammo.


Conclusion. I absolutely love this gun!
It feels extremely rugged, carries very nice and for a real deal real use gun. I love it and want one.
Now if I can just get my scope back!

To shoot 3" groups at 50yds on a bench with that gun, only one thing actually comes to mind---he wanted too??

[Streetstar]

Madman's results are more in keeping with what I would have expected from that gun too --- no more than 2" and perhaps better -- the factory's have for sure been putting out some accurate rifles for the last few years

[madman4570]

Madman's results are more in keeping with what I would have expected from that gun too --- no more than 2" and perhaps better -- the factory's have for sure been putting out some accurate rifles for the last few years

Doug,

On a sled up at our club on one of the 1200lb concrete tables and with a higher power high quality scope and match ammo I cannot imagine what that gun is capable of.

Extremely well built. Action was superb and the design all I can say is OMG It is so handy!

[OldWin]

Told you.

[madman4570]

Told you.

Dead right bro!

[Blaine]

That's in keeping with what I had heard before getting it. I hope I can shoot good enough to come close to your results, Mad

[madman4570]

That's in keeping with what I had heard before getting it. I hope I can shoot good enough to come close to your results, Mad

My brother I have no doubt you can.

I am envious of your gun Blaine!

I honestly love that gun so darn much. Just holding it made me smile. And the results giving those conditions I don't know of any of my guns that would better it? Thinking the perfect gun!

I will have one if I have to pick up beer cans to get one! You know when a gun just feels perfect ?

[OldWin]

Glad it went well bud.
Yes they are great rifles. I let a friend try mine that has never used a scout and he couldn't believe how well it shot. He said he is going to get one also.
My son was also impressed with it.
I have a Leupold IER in QD rings and an Aimpoint H1 with a throw lever mount. Slick setup.

[Joe S.]

My ruger scout would shoot 1/2" groups at 100 yards with handloads if i did my part. Off a bench with my 2-7 scope dialed up to 7.