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Is there a significant difference in the sound between
the. 22 LR & the. 22 short fired from a SAA with a 6" barrel?
I'm thinking about breaking out my Colt new frontier convertible
and giving it a go with some tree rat hunting.
LR's are very loud and. 22 mags. out of the magnum cylinder
are crazy loud, 'even with ear plugs'
CCI. 22 CB's are my round of choice for target shooting,
not so sure they'd be enough for hunting.
CCI CB's are fine out to about twenty yards for tree rats, ground squirrels and cotton tails. They are just as effective as a 22 caliber pellet gun. At least I have had great luck with them.
I shot my first squirrel with the exact same set up 40 plus years ago. The high speed shorts aren't has loud has long rifles but close. You could pass a file over the CBs to get a flat point. That makes a big difference with possums on the porch
Standard Velocity vs High Velocity? Yes, there is a difference in muzzle blast and noise, whether it's Short or Long Rifle. The lower velocity you get the quieter the rounds will be. 22mag ammo, even the Speer "short barrel" stuff, still has painful blast and flash out of a revolver.
I know a whole lot about very little and nothing about a whole lot.
jdad wrote:Standard Velocity vs High Velocity? Yes, there is a difference in muzzle blast and noise, whether it's Short or Long Rifle. The lower velocity you get the quieter the rounds will be. 22mag ammo, even the Speer "short barrel" stuff, still has painful blast and flash out of a revolver.
Right. It's not so much as the difference between LR and Short, but the velocity of the bullet. Even high velocity ammo shot out of a handgun will be below the speed of sound and you won't hear that "crack".
Shorts have a smaller bullet and are not as accurate as the 40 gr. LR so just get some target ammo and go to town-----6
Barrel/cylinder gap can make a big diffrence in any revolver.....even the little 22. A tight b/c gap will lead to much less percieved blast and noise to the shooter. Once spoiled with a revolver fitted like a swiss watch, several calls to a guy like Alan Harton will be in order to make all your other revolvers the same.
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C. Cash wrote:Barrel/cylinder gap can make a big diffrence in any revolver.....even the little 22. A tight b/c gap will lead to much less percieved blast and noise to the shooter.
Yep. One reason why I prefer the semiautos for rimfires; you're not going to need to "find the brass to reload it" anyway...
My Ruger Mk-II/III's are nice for a 'full size' gun, and EXTREMELY accurate, and for something more compact, the little Beretta/Taurus 22 'tip-up' models are great.
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C. Cash wrote:Barrel/cylinder gap can make a big diffrence in any revolver.....even the little 22. A tight b/c gap will lead to much less percieved blast and noise to the shooter.
Yep. One reason why I prefer the semiautos for rimfires; you're not going to need to "find the brass to reload it" anyway...
My Ruger Mk-II/III's are nice for a 'full size' gun, and EXTREMELY accurate, and for something more compact, the little Beretta/Taurus 22 'tip-up' models are great.
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Yes, the more affordable revolvers with the gap that the can see are certainly much louder. An Uncle used to have an Iver Johnson tip up .22lr which he had paid for some work on. It had the .38 caliber springs which Iver Johnson made and the cylinder gap had been decreased to a minimum. I don't remember who he had the work done by, but that revolver was as smooth and slick as any I have ever shot. The trigger pull in DA was a little tough for me back then, but my Uncle was an uncommonly strong man and he liked it just fine. I have seen him hit running jackrabbits just point shooting with it. I don't remember what ammo he used other than it was Winchester, and I don't remember my ears ringing after shooting it. They did with any other revolver.
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I'm a big fan of the "Super Colibri" 40gr "primer only" .22 LR ammo for the kind of work you mention... quiet enough from a revolver and nearly silent in a rifle...
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pillar,
I had a Ruger Single Six( old model ) .22LR/.22Mag.
I put a Bushnell Phantom 1.3x scope on it, and used to shoot running jackrabbits @ 125 yard+ with it.
There are still two (2) witnesses alive that can confirm it.
Mescalero wrote:pillar,
I had a Ruger Single Six( old model ) .22LR/.22Mag.
I put a Bushnell Phantom 1.3x scope on it, and used to shoot running jackrabbits @ 125 yard+ with it.
There are still two (2) witnesses alive that can confirm it.
Mescalero,
Tell me about those phantom scope mounts.
Looks like they are made for the flat top frame and use the sight screw hole.
Yes,
That is correct.
You RUIN the appearence of the gun,
you GAIN a killing machine,
Stupid accurate for a pistol, only thing I have found that can hold a candle to it is my Dan Wesson 8" with a Redfield 2x power on it.
Mescalero wrote:Yes,
That is correct.
You RUIN the appearence of the gun,
you GAIN a killing machine,
Stupid accurate for a pistol, only thing I have found that can hold a candle to it is my Dan Wesson 8" with a Redfield 2x power on it.
Hummm! Wheels turning in head.
Did they happen to make this mount & scope for the Colt new frontiers?
C. Cash wrote:Barrel/cylinder gap can make a big diffrence in any revolver.....even the little 22. A tight b/c gap will lead to much less percieved blast and noise to the shooter.
Yep. One reason why I prefer the semiautos for rimfires; you're not going to need to "find the brass to reload it" anyway...
My Ruger Mk-II/III's are nice for a 'full size' gun, and EXTREMELY accurate, and for something more compact, the little Beretta/Taurus 22 'tip-up' models are great.
Old Ironsights wrote:I'm a big fan of the "Super Colibri" 40gr "primer only" .22 LR ammo for the kind of work you mention... quiet enough from a revolver and nearly silent in a rifle...
+1 there too. In my bolt-action .22 rifles, this is quieter than a pellet rifle all day long.
Another thing to consider is the "new" CCI "Quiet" .22LR ammunition. It is sub-sonic, and the powder they use really does cut down on the noise and flash. Much more quiet than a standard .22 Short.
Ysabel Kid wrote:Another thing to consider is the "new" CCI "Quiet" .22LR ammunition. It is sub-sonic, and the powder they use really does cut down on the noise and flash. Much more quiet than a standard .22 Short.
C. Cash wrote:Barrel/cylinder gap can make a big diffrence in any revolver.....even the little 22. A tight b/c gap will lead to much less percieved blast and noise to the shooter.
Yep. One reason why I prefer the semiautos for rimfires; you're not going to need to "find the brass to reload it" anyway...
My Ruger Mk-II/III's are nice for a 'full size' gun, and EXTREMELY accurate, and for something more compact, the little Beretta/Taurus 22 'tip-up' models are great.
Which is why I like this set up!
Can't get much quieter!
Very cool YK
Unfortunately the PA. 'gun control' game commission won't let
us hunt with semi auto's (other than semi shotguns, 3 rounds Max, small game only)
We're not allowed to use center fire ammo for small game.
Mescalero wrote:pillar,
I had a Ruger Single Six( old model ) .22LR/.22Mag.
I put a Bushnell Phantom 1.3x scope on it, and used to shoot running jackrabbits @ 125 yard+ with it.
There are still two (2) witnesses alive that can confirm it.
Apparently you know how hard a running Jack Rabbit is to hit. It is a pretty difficult shot to make, but it is funny how accurate the simple .22lr actually is.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
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Mescalero wrote:I don't know, but I say don't do it.
It is a Colt, not a Ruger!
Think I'll research it anyway.
If you don't have to drill holes or make a permanent alteration should be okay.
I bought it to use and enjoy. (Big boy toys )
Mescalero wrote:If you don't have to alter it, you should be ok.
Don't freak out on your shake being magnified, just keep shooting it; you will get the hang of it.
I'll let ya know what I come up with.
Love these new little projects using guns/toys I already have.
Mescalero wrote:I used the magnum cylinder when I did that.
It is still a small bullet and in the same gun. Still pretty impressive.
D. Brian Casady
Quid Llatine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur.
Advanced is being able to do the basics while your leg is on fire---Bill Jeans
Don't ever take a fence down until you know why it was put up---Robert Frost
Ysabel Kid wrote:Another thing to consider is the "new" CCI "Quiet" .22LR ammunition. It is sub-sonic, and the powder they use really does cut down on the noise and flash. Much more quiet than a standard .22 Short.
