KWK wrote:I thought I read somewhere that .22s aren't suitable for deer?
What type of bullet did you use and where did you place it?
What are your thoughts on those Kel-Tec .223s? I've never owned a semi-auto, but that one has a certain appeal.
And congratulations, of course.
Ok, Got my second wind!
.223 is suitable for deer if you can shoot.
.223 is suitable for bear if you can shoot very well and place you shot. I can shoot with anybody on here---Well most of you guys I am sure.
It was about 1.25pm and I did not see anything I wanted to take. I was in one of my huge gorges at top where it plateaus off.
To my left is the a huge gorge with big Hemlocks and Oaks etc. In front of me is a huge Oak tree and the front shooting opened up view of about 150yds Hemlocks and where the one gorge starts to curve slightly. To my right is this is this grass section with thorn brush and some old downed aprox. 100ft hemlocks covered in deep moss. very limited view of view there about 50ft.
So at a little after 1pm I say screw it I need to eat something. Stomach is growling etc.
Also the legs are getting cramped after sitting Indian style for 7 hrs. I put gun down stretch, get some felling back in my legs and feet etc. Put gun down and reach in one of my inner coat pockets for almonds, dried raisins.
While grabbing them I hear this swoosh sound and out from thorn brush at warp speed runs right by me a big doe about 30ft to the right side and down and across bank. Being the knowledgeable fellow I am I think Holy Moly good chance she ain't alone.
Drop bag of lunch, grab Kel-Tec and while taking a fighting shooting stance
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kinda like a Kiba-dachi stance
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taking safety off,turning dot intensity knob forward one click to on and full red position I look like what I assume to be a rabid ninja warrior attempting to get ready to shoot skeet.
In that instant coming at full speed, I mean booking is this buck running right towards me out of thorn brush while very slightly glancing to the right following Doe's path. At about 25 ft I fire a frontal shot into chest. He drops down skidding on his right side and regains back up and now leaves doe's path and while still going down bank he heading not across it but it is apparent he is going with flowing creek direction downhill. I take aim with him running at about 60ft away from me going downhill but you can see he is hurt pretty bad. I shoot him in the middle of back with him angling downward. He goes down rolling down down bank to bottom of creek bed. I see a tiny movement like he possibly is trying to get up, his head raises a tad I take aim put a security shot in him from about 150ft away in the bottom base of his neck.
I have to say two things. 1) For anyone that hunts in the woods those red/green dot scopes are absolutely unreal. Could I have made that shot with the 7mm Mag Model 70,probably the first one but then again maybe not? I for certain within the next second would not have hit the buck going down the bank making a perfect second shot like I did. And if I had a normal zoomed hunting scope, Nope!
Also saying Hey, it took three shots so that gun was not enough? If you say that with this type event you are kludged.
Any gun with that shot,I do not believe would have stopped buck on the spot. I have absolutely no doubt a side shot where you have time for heart etc. different deal though I think that .22 Cal bullet would have dropped him on the spot. That third shot actually many people would have just let him take time and die. Not me, I finish them quick. I owe that to them.
I hate to see game suffer, I know he was dead meat after shot 2 but that is just the way I roll, security shot time. That shot also struck dead nuts base of back of neck.
Do what you guys want, but a soft recoil semi with a 1X wide field of view dot scope for in the woods, Top notch.
I will go out in the morning and see if Mr. Bear is feeding on deer gut pile etc, If he is big and bad enough I will temple shot him with that gun/red dot. I have absolutely no worry that partition .22 bullet will put his lights out. Dead bear walking.
I think the NYS Police first stopped cause my wife had the flashers on beside the road. The guys said, very nice buck Congrats.
He looked in front seat and saw this black ASSUALT LOOKING GUN
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with a dot scope resembling the ACOG dot scope.
The big one said,to most people he was big but not to me, That unloaded? I said yes Sir, Its unloaded, action open, and it bears only a 5rd mag meeting the NYS Hunting requirements, care to verify. he smiled and said nope you appear to have it all covered. Other one said and you do have permission to hunt on this property? I said yes sir considering its mine.