Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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Picked up my second RG yesterday, a 30-30 this time that JES will rebore to 38-55 Win. I will shoot it a bit next week before the trip to Oregon. I'm not sure if it is just this rifle but after a complete takedown to clean the cosmoline off the parts, I could not find one item that need any work with a file, stones, steel wool, or anything else. The items that I cleaned up on my 45-70 did not require the work on this rifle. Notably, the carrier, lever, and bolt where completely finished. Looked no different that those components on any of my new Marlins.

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The rifle cycles cartridges slicker than snail snot and without any scratches. The wood took to the BC Stock Wax and it looks very good. Very nice contrast in wood between rifles, both look very good and will stand against any wood stocked carbine. Same with the bluing, very deep and rich.

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Started some reloading today and will be reading to start at my range in the background in a couple of days as I work through the various powder I would like to shoot. This was the hang tag that came with the rifle, looks pretty cool on the reloading room wall.

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It seems that Remlin wants to focus on the 30-30 Win and 45-70 Govt as their primary leverguns and it is going to be interesting to see how they face up against the Rio Grande over the next year. My Distributor/Dealer said my rifle is the latest off the boat and if they have cleaned up some of the issues us "early birds" have discovered, Remlin is going to really need to cowboy up as well. There is no doubt in my simple mind that the outfit in Brazil is going to give them a run for their money.
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Re: Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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I'd like to see you get another of these 30-30's and rebarrel it to 7-30 Waters .
And of course design an acceptable mold .
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Re: Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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Ranch Dog,

That looks like a nice pair of rifles. What does the "B" behind the calibers stand for?

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Re: Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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Great looking rifles. Makes me drual, I'm afraid I'd rust one, then have to buy it
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Re: Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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I apologize in advance for plagiarizing another posters photos.

I see the .45-70 has the big finger loop & the .30-30 has the standard.

I wonder if the finger loop size is an option or is that just a difference in the 2 models?

The .45-70 is apparently a lighter (5.8 pounds unloaded) gun than the .30-30 model (7.0 pounds unloaded) because metal has to be removed to bore the standard "barrel stock" (0.65" dia.) out to the larger .45 caliber.

My .30-30 came with a fairly decent set of factory iron sights .......a rather large semi buckhorn rear sight and a large "rhinoceros horn" brass beaded front sight that even I with my older eyes can discern quite clearly.

For that reason I chose to mount my Bushnell Trophy 1.75-4x40mm scope with Warne QD (Quick Detachable) rings that return to zero faithfully when the scope is dismounted & remounted.

I'm going to sight the gun to 100 yards both with & without the scope mounted.

I like to keep my options open & chose not to remove a perfectly usable set of iron sights.

In some circumstances where I'm "dogging" deer out of thick brush the iron sights are the best/fastest option.

Also, if I drop my gun & bust the scope when I'm way back in the boonies hunting many miles from a workshop I'm still in the hunt because I can remove the scope in seconds WITHOUT TOOLS & use the iron sights.

I hunted deep brush deer & moose successfully with iron sights for many years & still choose that option on occasion.

Most of the concerns I thought might be issues with the gun disappeared after a good cleaning with a grease dissolving spray-on solvent, lubrication & a week of working the action so now it is probably the slickest levergun I own & that's saying alot because my 3 Rossi 92s are very slick.

The issue of slight scratching of ejected cartridges has disappeared during the break-in.

I noticed that the eject spring is a little shy on my gun & some brands of 170 grain RN cartridges won't clear the ejection port unless I angle the gun.

Ejected fired/spent cases shouldn't be a problem cause they're a lot lighter.

This is not an issue with me because I intend to use the factory Hornady LeveRevolution FTX ammo in my gun and my Rio Grande cycles & ejects them just fine.

The pointed Hornady FTX bullet will add another 25-50 yards to the effective range of the reputably "short winded" .30-30 cartridge.

I have purchased several boxes of the 160 grain FTX bullets and a set of economical Lee dies. I find the Lee case length gauge & cutter + lock stud simplifies the job of case trimming & getting those cases the same length every time. This is essential if you crimp your bullets using the factory crimping cannelure. I like to crimp bullets in cartridges I'm using in revolvers and in rifles with tube magazines.

If I'm not satisfied with the factory ammo groupings I'll cook up a hand load with the fired cases & FTX bullets that will group to my satisfaction.

Hodgdon has released the till recently proprietary LeveRevolution powder as a purchasable canister powder.

Having said that I've never had any problem with Hornady factory ammunition giving me good hunting accuracy (1 1/2 " or better 3-shot groups @ 100 yards).

I'm very, very lazy & would rather spend my time hunting & fishing rather than bent over a reloading press so if the factory ammo gives me the hunting accuracy I need that's what I'll use.

I don't expect bench rest accuracy from a $400 "straight off the rack" levergun but I'll take it if I can get it.

Some of my leverguns are surprisingly accurate & I hope this gun will be the same.
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Re: Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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Ranch Dog wrote: It seems that Remlin wants to focus on the 30-30 Win and 45-70 Govt as their primary leverguns and it is going to be interesting to see how they face up against the Rio Grande over the next year. My Distributor/Dealer said my rifle is the latest off the boat and if they have cleaned up some of the issues us "early birds" have discovered, Remlin is going to really need to cowboy up as well. There is no doubt in my simple mind that the outfit in Brazil is going to give them a run for their money.
I think the smart people at Braztech/Rossi realize that their main competitor in the 336 department Remlin has a QC monkey on its back & NOW is the time to grab some market share on the rebound from the growing numbers of Marlin owners dismayed by the substandard offerings from the new factory.

The lack of issues with your just off the boat .30 caliber Rio Grande tells me that Rossi has probably been prudent enough to pull up their own socks and eliminate some outstanding QC issues that were apparent with their earlier products......eg. the rust under the wood issue, slipshod machining errors, off center sights, poor wood/metal fit, splitting stocks, disintegrating magazine assemblies on the first run of 92/.454s, etc.

**Incidentally the way Rossi dealt with the disintegrating magazine assembly issue with the early 92/.454s that created the tube loading option was nothing short of genius.

Hopefully Rossi leverguns will soon be "take'em outta the box & go shooting" guns and the necessity of the preliminary tune-up phase of Rossi ownership a thing of the past.
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Re: Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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Well based on my not being happy with the Remlin stuff and not being overly enthused about the Rossi stuff I think my next new present manufacture gun will either be a Sauer 202 ,


http://www.gunpricing.co.uk/files/websi ... ghland.jpg

or a Blaser R-93 !

http://www.blaser-usa.com/typo3temp/pic ... 27f8df.jpg

http://www.blaser-usa.com/Rifles.43.0.html
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Re: Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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6pt-sika wrote:Well based on my not being happy with the Remlin stuff and not being overly enthused about the Rossi stuff I think my next new present manufacture gun will either be a Sauer 202 ,


http://www.gunpricing.co.uk/files/websi ... ghland.jpg

or a Blaser R-93 !

http://www.blaser-usa.com/typo3temp/pic ... 27f8df.jpg

http://www.blaser-usa.com/Rifles.43.0.html
Don't see the levers on any of those guns???? ;)
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Re: Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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pricedo wrote:
6pt-sika wrote:Well based on my not being happy with the Remlin stuff and not being overly enthused about the Rossi stuff I think my next new present manufacture gun will either be a Sauer 202 ,


http://www.gunpricing.co.uk/files/websi ... ghland.jpg

or a Blaser R-93 !

http://www.blaser-usa.com/typo3temp/pic ... 27f8df.jpg

http://www.blaser-usa.com/Rifles.43.0.html
Don't see the levers on any of those guns???? ;)

Did I say lever anywhere :!:
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Re: Rossi Rio Grande 3030B

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6pt-sika wrote:
pricedo wrote:
6pt-sika wrote:Well based on my not being happy with the Remlin stuff and not being overly enthused about the Rossi stuff I think my next new present manufacture gun will either be a Sauer 202 ,


http://www.gunpricing.co.uk/files/websi ... ghland.jpg

or a Blaser R-93 !

http://www.blaser-usa.com/typo3temp/pic ... 27f8df.jpg

http://www.blaser-usa.com/Rifles.43.0.html
Don't see the levers on any of those guns???? ;)

Did I say lever anywhere :!:
And if you wanna be technical a bolt action is a lever of sorts .
Parkers , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s , 6.5mm's and my family in the Philippines !
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