Did Steve Youngs Mods To My Rossi

[Dawg]

I bought his DVD and the Mag follower and ejector spring. I spent a couple of hours yesterday tweaking my 38/.357 based on Steve's teachings from his excellent DVD. I could not believe how much difference his ejector spring made compared to the stock spring.

I found that Rossi has thinned down the stock ejector quite a bit compared to the older guns. Its not unlike what Steve recommends in his video, so I did not need to do any radical reshaping of that part.

The trigger on my gun came from the factory with zero takeup or creep and breaks like the proverbial glass rod at 5 pounds, and that was just fine for me, so I left it as is.

For the most part, I stoned all the sharp edges on the bolt, and I thinned the front quarter inch of the extractor by about .010 because it was sitting a touch high and not grasping the cartridge rims well enough to suit me. I replaced the ejector spring, and the mag follower with Steves metal one, and put it back together.

Like Steves says in his video, its a good one.

I also got one of his bolt mounted peeps that replaces the safety, but it fit loosely because of the location of the notch that the pin secures being lower than the pin hole in the bolt. I turned the sight bushing 90 degrees and notched it by hand with a swedish file and it mounted up nice and tight. After playing with it a while, it became clear that the location of the safety was off center in the bolt quite a bit, and because of that, I would have had to have the front sight way over to one side, so I removed the peep. Too bad, because it is a quality part, and was looking forward to it.

I discovered that my barrel is drilled and tapped for a scope mount under the rear sight, and Rossi sells a mount for the gun that only costs $14, and my vision is not that great anymore (thats why I wanted to put a peep on) so, I ordered the base from Rossi and I already have a mini red dot for it. I think it will make my shooting experience better with my old eyes.

Picture is not too good, but heck, if you seen one Rossi, you seen em all.

[stickfred]

Thanks for the post Dawg. Its good to hear that Steve's DVD worked so well for you. I'm looking forward to going through much the same as soon as Rossi sends a new shipment this way. Sorry to hear about the peep. My leanings were toward the peep, although I might even try Taurus' tang mount. Let us know how it shoots.

[Dawg]

Thanks for the post Dawg. Its good to hear that Steve's DVD worked so well for you. I'm looking forward to going through much the same as soon as Rossi sends a new shipment this way. Sorry to hear about the peep. My leanings were toward the peep, although I might even try Taurus' tang mount. Let us know how it shoots.

Its a dream to shoot. I went to my local range today and picked up a bunch of S&B FMJ .38's and '357's and it works great with both. The .38's shoot a little lower, but they shoot a tighter group.

I had always heard that some lever guns did not handle .38's too well, but this one has no such aversions. It is really slick. The first 38 I fired sounded like a squib, I had to unload it and check the barrel. It was clear, and every round after that was just as quiet.

I am thinking this gun will likely become one of the favorites real quick.

[Griff]

Glad you got yer Rossi all tuned-up. It's sorta like my '55 Chevy... when I first bought it, it was almost bone stock... drifted all over the road, rocked and rolled, and not from the sound system either. Putting that big 427 L-88 in it made all it's woes just that much more noticeable... but new leafs in the rear, new coils in front (along with new ball-joints) and a pair of sway bars... made it like a road racer! Yep, I had the tickets to prove it also.

Those wild and wooly rides before the suspension upgrades were exhilirating... and dangerous as all get out! But, like many another hot rod, or '60s muscle car, they got some bad raps from folks that just didn't get what they were really capable of with a few good parts and some judicious "tweaking". Sorta like Rossi's mdl 92!

[AJMD429]

I discovered that my barrel is drilled and tapped for a scope mount under the rear sight, and Rossi sells a mount for the gun that only costs $14, and my vision is not that great anymore (thats why I wanted to put a peep on) so, I ordered the base from Rossi...

1.I really like the Burris Fastfire-II, and have one on several of my leverguns. The picture below shows how much smaller they are than the EoTech/Bushnell holosights [top], and the TruGlo [middle] or similar 'open' holosights, and smaller than most of the ordinary 'red dot' sights on the market:

...and I already have a mini red dot for it.

2. What is the Rossi website or whatever that you ordered that base from...?

[Hagler]

Dawg,

Welcome, congratulations on your 92. Steve is the man. I cannot, however, let the highlighted portion go, without a comment on safety:

I went to my local range today and picked up a bunch of S&B FMJ .38's and '357's and it works great with both. The .38's shoot a little lower, but they shoot a tighter group.

If you are shooting true, Full Metal-Jacketed rounds (or, pointy, spire-nose bullets), then you may end up with a "chainfire" in your magazine tube. You should use only soft-nosed bullets, or hollow points in a tube magazine. Just in case you did not know, the hard bullet of the FMJ round can set off the primer in the round that is in front of it, causing the whole magazine to go off. That would not be good for anyone who is around that rifle. ...or so I have heard it said... So, be careful.

Shawn

[COSteve]

The best thing about Steve's DVD and parts is how easy it is to turn a stiff action (actually standard by today's standards) into one that's slick as snot. I've now done 3 Rossis (my 2 and a friend's) and they all came out beautifully. I was able to crisp up the triggers too and now all of them have a clean break at 4 lbs.

My carbine's loading gate was 'sticky' and Steve also explained how to slick it up too. Rossis are fun guns and Steve is a great guy! What a combination.

[J Miller]

Thanks for the post Dawg. Its good to hear that Steve's DVD worked so well for you. I'm looking forward to going through much the same as soon as Rossi sends a new shipment this way. Sorry to hear about the peep. My leanings were toward the peep, although I might even try Taurus' tang mount. Let us know how it shoots.

Its a dream to shoot. I went to my local range today and picked up a bunch of S&B FMJ .38's and '357's and it works great with both. The .38's shoot a little lower, but they shoot a tighter group.

I had always heard that some lever guns did not handle .38's too well, but this one has no such aversions. It is really slick. The first 38 I fired sounded like a squib, I had to unload it and check the barrel. It was clear, and every round after that was just as quiet.

I am thinking this gun will likely become one of the favorites real quick.

Dawg,

Isn't it wonderful when you accomplish something on your own? I kind of like that feeling too.

Here is a thread you might want to read. I know there is lots of variables in ammunition, even factory ammo, but it seems there is a possibility of over loads resulting in gun destruction when using S&B ammo.
http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=112524

I rarely shoot factory ammo, and this really makes me leery of S&B ammo.

Joe

[Dawg]

Dawg,

Welcome, congratulations on your 92. Steve is the man. I cannot, however, let the highlighted portion go, without a comment on safety:

I went to my local range today and picked up a bunch of S&B FMJ .38's and '357's and it works great with both. The .38's shoot a little lower, but they shoot a tighter group.

If you are shooting true, Full Metal-Jacketed rounds (or, pointy, spire-nose bullets), then you may end up with a "chainfire" in your magazine tube. You should use only soft-nosed bullets, or hollow points in a tube magazine. Just in case you did not know, the hard bullet of the FMJ round can set off the primer in the round that is in front of it, causing the whole magazine to go off. That would not be good for anyone who is around that rifle. ...or so I have heard it said... So, be careful.

Shawn

Shawn, I really appreciate your concern, and your post. I was aware of the potential for chainfires with the wrong type of ammo, and it never hurts to repeat good common sense advice.

I should have made it clear that S&B 38 and .357 FMJ rounds are true flat points.

The bullets contact the rim, and cannot touch the primers. They load them to good velocities, and they are very clean and accurate rounds, plus they feed and cycle as slick as the proverbial snot.

[Dawg]

Thanks for the post Dawg. Its good to hear that Steve's DVD worked so well for you. I'm looking forward to going through much the same as soon as Rossi sends a new shipment this way. Sorry to hear about the peep. My leanings were toward the peep, although I might even try Taurus' tang mount. Let us know how it shoots.

Its a dream to shoot. I went to my local range today and picked up a bunch of S&B FMJ .38's and '357's and it works great with both. The .38's shoot a little lower, but they shoot a tighter group.

I had always heard that some lever guns did not handle .38's too well, but this one has no such aversions. It is really slick. The first 38 I fired sounded like a squib, I had to unload it and check the barrel. It was clear, and every round after that was just as quiet.

I am thinking this gun will likely become one of the favorites real quick.

Dawg,

Isn't it wonderful when you accomplish something on your own? I kind of like that feeling too.

Here is a thread you might want to read. I know there is lots of variables in ammunition, even factory ammo, but it seems there is a possibility of over loads resulting in gun destruction when using S&B ammo.
http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=112524

I rarely shoot factory ammo, and this really makes me leery of S&B ammo.

Joe

It sure is a good feeling Joe.

That is an interesting thread you posted about the GP100 Kaboom. I have been using S&B ammo for years, and have fired tens of thousands of rounds of many different calibers through many guns, and my personal findings have been that their ammo is far more consistent from a quality standpoint than a lot of American ammo even. The Czech factory that makes the ammo is a NATO supplier, and overall they have had a good reputation. I have seen many Kaboom stories posted on many forums over the years, and the only constant that seems to rear up consistently is that stuff happens from time to time.

One incident with S&B ammo is not enough to sway me from using it, but thanks for posting it nevertheless.

[J Miller]

Several of the posters on that thread commented they thought that ammo was reloads. The OP said he didn't reload and bought the S&B for practice. I'm wondering if they were indeed reloads, but in the original boxes and he just didn't know it.

Beats me, the only S&B ammo I've ever used is 303 Brit.

Joe

[AJMD429]

I have been using S&B ammo for years, and have fired tens of thousands of rounds of many different calibers through many guns, and my personal findings have been that their ammo is far more consistent from a quality standpoint than a lot of American ammo even.

The velocities per chronograph are pretty consistent, and I've never had a case or primer fail, unlike many REMINGTON factory loads (and a few Winchesters, and no Federals) where the brass was so brittle it shattered upon firing...

[Dawg]

What is the Rossi website or whatever that you ordered that base from...?[/size]

http://www.rossiusa.com/accessories-scope.cfm