OT: .45-70 Air Rifle

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OT: .45-70 Air Rifle

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Well, almost. :oops: But, it shoots normal .45-70 slugs, though !

It's a .457 Quackenbush AfricanExpress custom air rifle, I was readng about, today, in my Feb 2008 issue of Fur, Fish & Game.

The article is "Big Bore Hunting Air Rifles", and goes on about how game up to & includg whitetails and hogs are taken with .308 & .457 Quackenbush, and Shinsung .50 cal Dragon Slayer air rifles.

There's also a full-page ad nearby, featuring the .50 @ $850 :shock: , a .45 @ $550, and a levergun .25 @ $550 ! :roll: A company called Pyramydair had them at: www.pyramydair.com

I found the article very interesting, what with my local municipality rife with deer and also a law prohibiting the discharge of a firearm (which these are not) within the city limits.
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The QB has taken game as large as Buff. His website is filled with many videos and such of game taken. There are many big bore air rifle makers. Some are true works of art. Some of the forums I visit for air gun hunting have plenty of links to this. Its a whole new world.
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Post by Scott64A »

Pretty sweet!

I noticed the .50cal was pre-filled with air, so I guess it's a one-shot deal until you get back to the truck for more air.

It would definately kill deer.
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I think maybe the shooter/hunter carries refills with him in the field, to recharge to rifle, or the gun has some sort of rpeatability - because the author talks about multiple shots/hits on his first hog. He wrote of having already reloaded (sic), when another shot opportunity occurred.

There was an arcane comment, that the gun's performance could be further enhanced if one was willing to sacrifice the second shot in the air chamber - whatever exactly that means.

That could mean that the first shot doesn't empty the air chamber, being metered/regulated - leaving enough air for one or more subsequent shots.
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Am I right that a suppressor is OK on an air rifle without the tax stamp and paperwork as long as it's permanently attached to the gun?


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Pete44ru wrote:That could mean that the first shot doesn't empty the air chamber, being metered/regulated - leaving enough air for one or more subsequent shots.
Correct. There should be a way to meter the air so that you can either get more power for fewer shots or more shots at less power.

Or think of it like the old Crossman CO2 pistols. The small CO2 cartridge was good for X amount of shots (theoretically), not one shot and then replace the cartridge.

As I understand it, paintball guns work the same way.
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Rusty wrote:Am I right that a suppressor is OK on an air rifle without the tax stamp and paperwork as long as it's permanently attached to the gun?


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Post by rjohns94 »

Actually, they are precharged, up to 3000-3300 psi. Each shot uses about 200psi per shot. The big bore guns get about 2-4 shots, depending on valving, size of tank, projectile, etc. They generate about 500 fpe or more, shooting the projectiles in the 900+ fps range. A high pressure (4500psi) tank is carried in the field to assist in recharging or there are hand pumps that take about 300 strokes / fill. They are very similar to the PCP guns of smaller standard caliber pellets (.177-.25) used for smaller game. The triggers are very light and reloading is as easy as cycling a bolt.
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barnes pnuematic.com is the place to go for some really exotic air rifles.

he makes up to .60 caliber and a wait of a year while he makes it from scratch...costs begin in the one thousand dollar range...
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If I recall, Lewis & Clark had a rather awesome 'air rifle' on their journey - big enough to hunt large game (and impress the heck out of some Indians).

They also took their powder for their conventional guns in lead containers, balanced out by volume so the amount of lead in a container would about make the number of bullets the powder would fire.
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in the time of the napoleanic wars, the austrian army had a regiment of air rifles. they were effective out to 100 yards and napoleaon was so furious about it that he ordered that any of the austrian air gunners captured were to be executed on the spot.

the u.s navy had an air cannon on a gunboat in the spanish american war that would propel a 200lb dynamite laden projectile 2000 yards. problem was it took so much room for the apparatus, air storage tanks and machinery it was not practical.
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AJMD429 wrote:If I recall, Lewis & Clark had a rather awesome 'air rifle' on their journey - big enough to hunt large game (and impress the heck out of some Indians).

They also took their powder for their conventional guns in lead containers, balanced out by volume so the amount of lead in a container would about make the number of bullets the powder would fire.
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