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I don't know whether it is a big deal or not to fire commercial 'hunting' ammunition in a Garand, but I read several places that there are adjustable gas plugs made to allow 'commercial' ammunition be fired from Garands so that the action isn't peened too much by the faster and/or harder cycling which could happen. It makes sense, and also enables use of the gun in 'straight-pull bolt-action' mode.
I see Schuster's adjustable gas plugs in "2-port" MidwayUSA Product #: 412046 and "4-port" MidwayUSA Product #: 777146 versions - both 'adjustable', and both listed (links just listed are from MidwayUSA) without commentary as to which one, if either, would be preferable for a given gun or ammunition. Both are identical in price, so I would assume it isn't just a matter of a 'new and improved' model replacing another.
Anyone know about the difference?
( ...yeah, I know - one has two ports, and the other has four ports... )
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I would presume from my reading that the 4-port gives one more options. I pondered this but...
I got my Garand to be a Garand, if you know what I mean, and am going to stick with IMR4895 under 150-155 gr. bullets at about 2750 fps (and the Greek surplus M2 Ball).
Sincerely,
Hobie
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I agree with Hobie, but this does open an additional avenue if for some reason a Garand needed to pull double duty and/or the lighter bullets were no longer available for some reason. Or maybe a screaming deal turned up on the heavier stuff.
Is it just a "plug and play" item (after adjusting of course)?
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awp101 wrote:I agree with Hobie, but this does open an additional avenue if for some reason a Garand needed to pull double duty and/or the lighter bullets were no longer available for some reason. Or maybe a screaming deal turned up on the heavier stuff.
Is it just a "plug and play" item (after adjusting of course)?
Yep. I plan on loading 'proper' milspec for it, but right now only have a few boxes of .30-06; two 'American Eagle' PSP loadings I think 150 gr, and 4 or 5 boxes of some foreign stuff that is supposedly non-corrosive, and boxer-primed. I figure if I shoot that all up, it will give me some 200 or so brass total, combined with the brass I've saved over the years.
And, yes, it is 'plug and play' in the sense you replace the factory gas plug, then you just start out with it on 'bypass' and gradually turn the screw until the gun cycles fully and reliably.
Made from hardened tool steel and parkerized. Service rifle legal! Has the same appearance and configuration as original; CMP 4th Edition #4-13-2-b. By adjusting the volume of gas in the cylinder you change the speed of the op-rod and the harmonics of the barrel. If you want to tame things down, it can be opened up just enough to function, or opened fully for single shot functionality. If you are working on your own hand loads, a quarter turn WILL affect group size. If you have a 308 Garand this is a necessity if you want to safely shoot heavier 168 grain match bullets. Also a must have if you hunt with your CMP Garand but want to shoot heavier 30-06 loads. Includes instructions and the adjustment tool (Allen wrench). Made in the USA. Lifetime factory warranty.
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When I had my FFL I sold a Garand to a friend who was moving to Northern Idaho. He wanted an '06 because there are elk there and he wanted to be able to take them with assurance. He also liked the Garand because of it's history and such, after all what's not to like? Since he was on a budget too and was faced with the same problem what I told him at the time was to buy an additional G.I. plug and drill a hole straight down through the middle thus rendering the gas system null and void. IMHO I'd rather use it as a straight pull rifle than risk damaging the rifle. He later told me that he used the rifle with 220 grain Remingtons to take two elk, each with one shot.
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The Garands as issud use a plug that has a gas relief valve.
Anyone that has participated in serious service rifle competition knows that for marksmanship purposes, the service rifle armorers replaced the Garand standard plug with a non-venting plug. The non-venting plug is considered an acceptable swap-out item by competition standards.
Bob Nisbet
Past National Matches (Camp Perry) Service Rifle Competitor.
