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In the newspaper:
"Eagle attacks condor: A golden eagle attacked and probably killed the only known condor that has been hatched in the wild of Monterey County in 100 years, reports the Ventana Wildlife Society. The condor, fully grown at the time of the attack, fought off the eagle but hasn't been seen since."
So let's push through legislation to allow hunting of eagles, to keep their numbers in check. Wait, they're endangered too! Maybe we should get the cougars to kill the eagles, then when the cougars start killing condors, we can hunt cougars again.
I wonder if the eagle is in any danger from eating lead-laden condor meat.
"I'll tell you what living is. You get up when you feel like it. You fry yourself some eggs. You see what kind of a day it is."
Well! Looks like there is more evidence for Golden Eagles killing Condors that the 1-in-a-million chance that a Condor eats so many dead animals that just so happened to contain lead bullets, and then died of lead poisoning. I guess CA will have to ban Golden Eagles now. They seem to be a far worse threat to the Condor than the imagined belly full of used lead bullets.
Greg807 wrote:Whats your point... do condors kill livestock or what, I hate the sierra club as much as the next guy, but lets preserve the teradyctal...
My point is:
Many more condors have died from many other causes, yet lead is banned using faulty or skewed scientific studies, not because of any of the major causes of death. http://www.fws.gov/hoppermountain/cacon ... story.html
Please note only one dead condor that died had bullet fragments in its stomach, thus not ruling out any other lead source for the other lead poisoning deaths.
Greg807 wrote:Whats your point... do condors kill livestock or what, I hate the sierra club as much as the next guy, but lets preserve the teradyctal...
I'd be sad to see the Condor go. The problem is with how out of touch with reality the CA gov't is, banning lead bullets (based on no science or data that I've been able to find so far) in case a Condor eats enough used lead bullets to die of lead poisoning. If this has ever happened (and there's no evidence that it has ever happened that I'm aware of), the Golden Eagle must kill far more.
Interesting that a Golden has killed a Condor. I have seen both in the air at the same time, but never any aggression by the eagle. There are several resident eagles on the ranch as well as the occasional small group of Pinnacles condors, so I am actually surprised at this sudden clash. Neither bird competes with the other for food, so there is no for such an event other than a territorial conflict. Goldens will drive off any bird that is considered a threat to their space.
"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale, and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged"....President Abraham Lincoln
whether the condor died from ingesting or 'injected by high speed' lead projectiles is secondary...remember...the will of the kaliphornia state legislature comes first; right or wrong. to say they're living in the 14th century is to give them credit.
if you think you're influencial, try telling someone else's dog what to do---will rogers
Ysabel Kid wrote:I'm so confused... if they are both endangered, which one am I to root for???
That's a tough one, kid, they both taste like spotted owl...
Tom
Tom
'A Man's got to have a code...
I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them." -John Bernard Books. Jan. 22, 1901
Greg807 wrote:Whats your point... do condors kill livestock or what, I hate the sierra club as much as the next guy, but lets preserve the teradyctal...
I'd be sad to see the Condor go.
Not me, I'm just glad there are no T rex's left or these morons would try to save them too. Like Jeff Goldbloom said, "dod you ever stop to think, maybe there's a reason they went extinct?"
In reality, the Condor is know to be more succeptable to polution and pesticides, than the turkey vulture. The TV is way more hardy, survival of the fittest. One of the reasons we no longer have saber aTooth tigers either. They could NOT adapt.
