Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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The Chapman Screw Drivers finally came in and I went to work....well it was a little
un-nerving taking a rifle apart since I have never done it before. Got it apart and the jam cleared and put back together without any spare parts left over. Now for the acid test....taking it to the range and firing it :roll: Thanks to everyone for their in-put :!:
Need to ask another question.
What spare parts should I have in my kit for my 1894?
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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Angelo,

Glad you got the jam cleared.

Here is a list of spare parts, I found it in the Marlin Resources page on the forum home page:
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/Marli ... mation.htm
Marlin 1894 Spare Parts (nice to have on hand for "just in case")

If you are a serious Marlin levergun shooter and shoot your levergun more than a box or two a month you will find eventually that some parts will wear or break. It is always nice to have a few spare parts on hand.

Description Marlin part number Brownell's part number
Extractor with spring 514569 550-000-527
Ejector with spring 501168 550-501-168
Carrier assembly 514561 550-514-561
Front sight 414144 550-000-363
Rear sight complete 414242 550-000-364
Firing pin front 414299 440-414-299
Firing pin spring 401295 550-401-245
I've not bought any yet as my Marlin has shown no tendency to break anything. But I do intend to.

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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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MrV wrote:Got it apart and the jam cleared and put back together without any spare parts left over.
THAT is 90% of the accomplishment,whenever I try to fix something... :wink:
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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Joe, thanks for the web page for parts to have on hand.
Went to the range last night and fired it for the first time. NO JAMS :!: But the action could be a little smoother & the trigger might need a little tweeking. All in all it's GREAT :!: I think the next purchase with be a lever chambered in .22, I have a 12 year old grandson who enjoys shooting my Marlin Glennfield I know he will be off the hook with the lever action :D
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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Angelo,

Put about 500 live rounds through that rifle and you'll be surprised at how it smooths up.

As far as a .22 lever gun goes I'm admittedly prejudiced. I prefer the Winchester 94-22 or the older pre-safety, pre-rebounding hammer Marlin 39As.

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Count another vote for the 9422...
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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J Miller wrote:Angelo,

Put about 500 live rounds through that rifle and you'll be surprised at how it smooths up.

As far as a .22 lever gun goes I'm admittedly prejudiced. I prefer the Winchester 94-22 or the older pre-safety, pre-rebounding hammer Marlin 39As.

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Thanks for the input on the Winchester, I have a gun-smith here who is all over Shot guns and Lever Action Rifles, he feels guns made today can't stand up to guns made years ago. I will ask him to keep his eyes open for the Winchester.
This fourm is really great along with down to earth folks! Thanks :!:
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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I am glad you cleared that jam up too.

Just remember... vigor, stroke the lever with vigor.

I'd suspect most "poor" lever action's jamb ups come from folks who dont operate the lever with vigor.

(I was really trying to get some point across about "vigor" here)

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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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Take a gander at this:
http://marauder.homestead.com/Rifles.html

His Marlin articles will show ya how to slick up that 1894 so ya can operate it with one finger.

I got one here that I can stand upright on a scale, loosely trap the barrel between fingers forming an "O" (so I ain't cheating by holding onto it) and lever it with the other hand, deflecting the scale by only a little over TWO POUNDS.

After many thousand rounds through mine, I'd say the only spare parrt I would always have on hand is an ejector. Most anything else in a WELL TUNED Marlin will go 50,000 rounds with no issues.
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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Hillbilly wrote:I am glad you cleared that jam up too.

Just remember... vigor, stroke the lever with vigor.

I'd suspect most "poor" lever action's jamb ups come from folks who dont operate the lever with vigor.

(I was really trying to get some point across about "vigor" here)

Good luck
Hillbilly......LOL, thanks "Vigor'. After that jam I will never forget "vigor" ever :!:
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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Mrv,

Did you do any of the preventative measures found here?

http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Marlin94Fix.html

Every Marlin 1894c (three in total) all had jamming problems. None were user error or loose screws in any shape or form. They were all caused by the lever cam cutting into the lifter a tiny bit.

Every time I performed the mods found on Marauder's website, the jams disappeared 100%.

That included putting a radius on the cam and modifying the lifter or installing a new one.

So, if you'd like to keep the jam from rearing its head again, that simple procedure will save you the hassle of having to order a new one.
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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Glad it got worked out for you. I gotta add though that you shouldn't need "vigor" if its operating right. If everything is fine slow or fast shouldn't matter, matter of fact slamming things vigorously in a poorly tuned gun probably helps create the wear that causes the jam more than anything else. The key is getting it to run smoothly, in todays mas production slap em together & move em out world they dont always come that way from the factory.

I'd go with an older Marlin 39A or 39M if I were looking for a lever rimfire, but I'm not unbiased. :mrgreen:
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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meanc wrote:Mrv,

Did you do any of the preventative measures found here?

http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Marlin94Fix.html

Every Marlin 1894c (three in total) all had jamming problems. None were user error or loose screws in any shape or form. They were all caused by the lever cam cutting into the lifter a tiny bit.

Every time I performed the mods found on Marauder's website, the jams disappeared 100%.

That included putting a radius on the cam and modifying the lifter or installing a new one.

So, if you'd like to keep the jam from rearing its head again, that simple procedure will save you the hassle of having to order a new one.
Meanc,
Read the procedure......not sure if I feel confident enough to attempt it at this moment. If the jam continues I will either make the attempt to fix it or take it to my gunsmith. Thanks for the link :!:
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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As an alternative to "vigor", work that lever with definitive authority. :D
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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adirondakjack wrote:Take a gander at this:
http://marauder.homestead.com/Rifles.html

His Marlin articles will show ya how to slick up that 1894 so ya can operate it with one finger.

I got one here that I can stand upright on a scale, loosely trap the barrel between fingers forming an "O" (so I ain't cheating by holding onto it) and lever it with the other hand, deflecting the scale by only a little over TWO POUNDS.

After many thousand rounds through mine, I'd say the only spare parrt I would always have on hand is an ejector. Most anything else in a WELL TUNED Marlin will go 50,000 rounds with no issues.
adirondakjack,
Thanks for the link, a lot of great info!!
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Re: Update on Marlin 1894 Jam

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Leverdude wrote: I'd go with an older Marlin 39A or 39M if I were looking for a lever rimfire, but I'm not unbiased. :mrgreen:
+1 I've got 39A, Bl22 and 9422 and prefer the 39A by far :D :D
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