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Vintage, original cyanotype photograph, 3.25 by 4.25", of Texas Ranger Herff Alexander Carnes, taken at Ysleta, Texas, home camp in 1910. Carnes joined the Rangers in 1903, along with his brother, Quirl Bailey Carnes, who joined up in 1908. Quirl was killed in an ambush at San Benito in 1910, the same year as this photo. Herff Carnes left the Rangers the following year and joined the Border Patrol. On 1 December 1932, while staking out some smugglers, a bullet struck Carnes' pistol, split into two parts and entered his abdomen. He died three days later.
Another absolutely great photo rangerider. I've wondered, where do you come across the background information which often accompanies these photos you share with us ?
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Not to hijack this post, but which carry method for a rifle in a scabbard was more common - buttstock facing forward, as in this photo, or buttstock facing rear?
Ysabel Kid wrote:Not to hijack this post, but which carry method for a rifle in a scabbard was more common - buttstock facing forward, as in this photo, or buttstock facing rear?
Very cool pic and story....
YK ....I always wonder that too....
but in this case...it looks like a pretty long rifle,
and if it faced backwarks, it would be difficult
to pull the thing out while he is on the horse...
Sounds like the west was still pretty wild even in 1910. All I can tell about the carbine in the scabbard is that it is a carbine (due to its carbine butt), and that it shoots long cartridges. Must have been a hard thing for his family and parents, loosing both boys like that.
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Might be just a short backed horse but the skirt on the saddle looks very long by todays standards. Range rider , seems like you are a collector of antique saddles ????Enlighten me please.
Mine are all short enough to keep off their back so as to not inhibit any action and of course not to rub the animal
That's the way they made saddle skirts in those days. Gave plenty of room for saddle bags or serapes (along with a blanket roll and coat), so they wouldn't rub the horse, or get wet from sweat.
Most "modern" riders don't live in the saddle any more, so the big skirts have lost their reason for being.
Too bad... I like 'em
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Buck
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Most of the "Brush Poppers" carried their rifles with the butt to the rear angled down and not higher than the horses rump. This was to keep from pulling brush between the rifle and the horse. This was fine in level country, but in the hills or mountains, the rifle could come out. Under those condition the rifle was carried as in the photo.
With the butt to the rear, there was also the chance the lever could snag on a limb and pull out without being noticed by the rider.
Which ever way, you never left the rifle on the horse unattended. A horse will rub against a tree and turn the stock into splinters.
Charles wrote:Which ever way, you never left the rifle on the horse unattended. A horse will rub against a tree and turn the stock into splinters.
Y2K was commenting on that also. We were watching some of the "Wanted: Dead or Alive" episodes and he couldn't believe men left their rifles on their horses when they went inside a saloon. I imagine in that case, without fear of the horse rubbing against something, it was simply an issue of whether the rifle was "too valuable" or just a "tool". I explained to him that back then theft was not tolerated, and stealing a man's rifle would likely get the person shot.
I enjoy those old photos and the history behind them as well. I love reading the history of those old Texas Rangers. There are a lot of those trail and battle hardened men you would not have wanted to be on the wrong side of.
Not a sales pitch but if any of you haven't read One Ranger by Joaquin Jackson (sp?), you will not be able to put it down. He has a followup book One Ranger Returns (I think is the title-it has been awhile since I read these) that is just as good as the first.
DixieBoy wrote:Another absolutely great photo rangerider. I've wondered, where do you come across the background information which often accompanies these photos you share with us ?
Reading the stories of these men and places increases the enjoyment ten-fold. Thanks again. - DixieBoy
Amen to that..
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redhawk wrote:Not a sales pitch but if any of you haven't read One Ranger by Joaquin Jackson (sp?), you will not be able to put it down. He has a followup book One Ranger Returns (I think is the title-it has been awhile since I read these) that is just as good as the first.
I would have agreed a few years ago, but I'm still smarting from this and won't send any more of my hard-earned money Ranger Jackson's way:
redhawk wrote:Not a sales pitch but if any of you haven't read One Ranger by Joaquin Jackson (sp?), you will not be able to put it down. He has a followup book One Ranger Returns (I think is the title-it has been awhile since I read these) that is just as good as the first.
I would have agreed a few years ago, but I'm still smarting from this and won't send any more of my hard-earned money Ranger Jackson's way:
Charles wrote:Most of the "Brush Poppers" carried their rifles with the butt to the rear angled down and not higher than the horses rump. This was to keep from pulling brush between the rifle and the horse. This was fine in level country, but in the hills or mountains, the rifle could come out. Under those condition the rifle was carried as in the photo.
With the butt to the rear, there was also the chance the lever could snag on a limb and pull out without being noticed by the rider.
Which ever way, you never left the rifle on the horse unattended. A horse will rub against a tree and turn the stock into splinters.
I agree with your comments. The only difference I see from the way I have carried my rifle is the angle of the scabbard when carried in the front. I'm no expert but I had the scabbard a little more vertical so the horse could turn his head without hitting the butt of the rifle. Just personal preference I guess. Thanks for the picture rangerider.
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