Taurus Gaucho? Update - New?????

[COSteve]

I've read that when they first came out they had problems but those were resolved in later versions. The reason I ask is I heard from a friend last night who heard I was considering a single action pistol. He's got a 357mag blued Taurus Gaucho he got new in later 2008 for his 1880's Cavalry group but later decided to go with a Colt 45 he got from another friend. His group is a bit over the top as far as the 'kit' they each have assembled but they all look good saddled up and ready to 'charge'.

As to the pistol, he claims he has never fired it, that it's just been sitting in his safe, and he has the box and all the papers for it. It's a blued Gaucho with a 7.5" bbl and black plastic grips. He says its completely stock as he never got it out and used it. My question for this august group is; is it worth considering? If so, what's a fair price for it in "like new" condition as he calls claims? Anything special I should look for on it? The threads I found seem to be only from 2005 and 2006 where they started out problematic but seemed to get better later.

BTW, I looked on the Taurus site and they seem to be discontinued.

Update 1/22: My friend comes over last night with his 'new', 'never fired' Gaucho and it was a piece of work. It clearly had been fired a number of times (he didn't even try to clean it) and the cylinder was scored from lowering the hammer from half cock and then spinning the cylinder until it locked up. He tried to tell me that it really was 'new in the box', however, I pointed out that I'd downloaded the manual and from it noted that the pistol wasn't wrapped in any oil paper in the box, he didn't have the instruction manual, the key for the frame lock was missing, and the safety ring it was shipped with was also missing.

It did have a really smooth action and pretty nice trigger but it didn't interest me. He continued to push that it was a new gun but I said I wasn't interested. He then said he'd knock it down to $300. I told him I could buy an honest to gosh brand new one at CDNN for $250 so his used, damaged pistol wasn't worth but $125 to me. He got PO'd and left.

A mutual friend called me today and told me that my 'friend' had thought he'd be able to pawn it off on me as a new pistol. When I called his game he was embarrassed and when I told him his Gaucho wasn't worth but $125 to me he got mad. I'd still like to try out a decent one that one was a no sale from the beginning.

[Pete44ru]

I wouldn't touch one with a 10' pole. YMMV, of course.

I'm on several boards besides this one, and haven't heard very many kind words about them, older or newer runs.

The only one I ever personally examined did not meet my personal expectations for fit & dry function (I knew finish was junk at that price level, going in) - so I spent an additional $100 for the Ruger NV, that I've posted pics of here & elsewhere last Summer.

I wouldn't compound someone else's poor decision by taking their mistake off their hands (buying it).

.

[Idiot]

I posted this response on another forum discussing the EAA Bounty Hunter. Most of post can also be applied to the Gaucho. In summary, I passed on the Gaucho I looked at.

Here's from my other post:

First let me begin by saying that most of the folks here on this board, and especially Lee Martin, John Taffin and Paco Kelly, have learned and forgotten more about single-actions then I know. Listen to them.

With that said I want to add this about the Bounty Hunter. In my search for a good Colt SAA type single-action that can be carried on my hip while beating about the desert I discovered the Bounty Hunter. As you may recall, I wanted something light and lively that could handle a 45 Colt load pushing the 270SAA bullet at a bit beyond 1,000 fps. I initially wanted to do this out of New Vaquero - I can't. The Bounty Hunter came up because it is a bit more stout than the New Vaquero but not as heavy (or stout) as a New Model Blackhawk. And because it has a transfer bar safety allowing the carry of a full six rounds.

In sum, this is what I found. There exist three major categories of Colt SAA handguns. The first category is an actual Single-Action Army. This category includes those manufactured by Colt, and all of the clones that closely match the Colt SAA in every aspect. The leader of this pack are those SAA's made by USFA. The SAA is a good handgun, and in my opinion one of the finest fighting firearms every produced, and because of their simple robust design will hold up over the long haul. There only fly in the ointment for my carry purposes is that the must be loaded with five rounds with an open chamber beneath the firing pin. The limit of five rounds is not much of a problem, but more important, is when a round is not fired the hammer is either let down on a live primer or one has to take the time to index the empty cylinder back to the top. This is hard to do when chasing something, stopping - cocking to shoot - not shooting - and resuming the chase. I love the SAA in its original form, but for desert carry and the things I do with a handgun I need a transfer bar safety.

The second category of SAA's are the clones with transfer bar safeties. Taurus Gaucho, Beretta Stampede, EAA Bounty Hunter, and perhaps others fit in this category. These folks have taken the SAA design and modified it to include a transfer bar safety. In my research I found that the SAA's design does not accept this modification well and that problems spring up around it and even if it works initially it will eventually fall apart. Look up Taurus' SAA offering on the internet and there is problem after problem associated with this set up (Taurus just had to have 4 clicks when cocking). The final nail in the coffin on this gun, at least for me, came from a posted response to a discussion about SAA clones on the leverguns forum. Here is the link http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... ar#p254117 Scroll down until you find a post by "Nate Kiowa Jones." This fella is actually Steve Young, a renowned Winchester Model 92 gunsmith who also works on SAA handguns. Steve is a good gunsmith (he did great work on my Win M71) and a straight shooter. I have yet to find fault with any of his advise on leverguns or other guns he knows about. Read his post and it will speak for itself. After I read it I dropped the Bounty Hunter and Gaucho from my list of guns I must have.

The third category of SAA is the Ruger New Vaquero. It is not a SAA clone in design or function, only in appearance, feel, and balance. It was designed from the bottom up to accept a transfer bar safety and if you feed it loads within it strength limitations it will shoot forever - or at least a very long time. It's a good solid SAA substitute that will hold up to hard and rugged use. It is the gun that I've chosen as my desert companion.

After I buy the NV, and still find a need to own an original designed SAA to have fun with and fill my need to own one of the finest fighting firearms ever made, I will get the best money can buy from USFA.

For what it's worth.

[Buck Elliott]

It might be important to note that the Gaucho was discontinued " due to popularity." (Taurus' words...)

[Idiot]

It might be important to note that the Gaucho was discontinued " due to popularity." (Taurus' words...)

I guess guns that don't work aren't popular.

[COSteve]

Thanks for the quick replies. I think I'll pass on it and keep looking.

[Streetstar]

It might be important to note that the Gaucho was discontinued " due to popularity." (Taurus' words...)

I guess guns that don't work aren't popular.

thats what i heard too --- Bass Pro was closing out their floor model for $299.00 new (but with turn lines because it had been handled so much)
The blue looked like it was painted on --- i dont want to pick on my poor little Henry, because i love that gun, but the Gauchos bluing looked almost like the "blue" on a Henry rimfire's aluminum receiver

But still, 300 bucks for a big name SAA clone, i told the clerk i was gonna google it and make up my mind after that. It seemed like the satisfaction rate for these guns was about 50%, with half saying they were "great-- no probs" and just as many stating they had to send their gun back to Taurus to make it run right. (this was a cowboy action forum of some sort)
If your friend will part with it for $200 -250, it might be worth it even if it needs 30 or 40 bucks worth of work from a gunsmith, but any more than that would be a no go for me.
(I had a little Taurus snubbie that would not turn reliably in D-A mode --- Taurus suggested i send it back and it would take 3 or 4 weeks to get it turned around. I am an impatient type and dont like having to wait 4 weeks to shoot my new firearm, so i had my local Smith fix the issue for a few bucks and that was that --- it was great after that , but sad that i had to spend money on it out of the box or wait weeks --- I think Taurus is notorious for this kind of QC with many of their firearms, not just the Gaucho)

[COSteve]

Streetstar, thanks for the info. I'm not a CAS type so I only want a single action just as a companion to my leverguns. Mostly for just plinking at the range and maybe a walk in the forest. I guess his Gaucho is worth a look at in any case. If I like it's look and feel, then maybe I'll try to talk him into shooting it to see if it has problems. That way we'd both know if it was any good. Only then, if he wants a fair price, maybe I'll take a chance. In the meantime, I'm just doing some more research on the other brands. Steve's EMFs are nice but a bit out of my price range at this time.

[oltimber]

Has anyone tried the beratta stampede? I have had mine now for about 4 years and havn't had problems yet. Have not fired a lot of rounds threw it but it has done well hunting. It has killed what I have shot

Ron

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

I posted this response on another forum discussing the EAA Bounty Hunter. Most of post can also be applied to the Gaucho. In summary, I passed on the Gaucho I looked at.

Here's from my other post:

First let me begin by saying that most of the folks here on this board, and especially Lee Martin, John Taffin and Paco Kelly, have learned and forgotten more about single-actions then I know. Listen to them.

With that said I want to add this about the Bounty Hunter. In my search for a good Colt SAA type single-action that can be carried on my hip while beating about the desert I discovered the Bounty Hunter. As you may recall, I wanted something light and lively that could handle a 45 Colt load pushing the 270SAA bullet at a bit beyond 1,000 fps. I initially wanted to do this out of New Vaquero - I can't. The Bounty Hunter came up because it is a bit more stout than the New Vaquero but not as heavy (or stout) as a New Model Blackhawk. And because it has a transfer bar safety allowing the carry of a full six rounds.

In sum, this is what I found. There exist three major categories of Colt SAA handguns. The first category is an actual Single-Action Army. This category includes those manufactured by Colt, and all of the clones that closely match the Colt SAA in every aspect. The leader of this pack are those SAA's made by USFA. The SAA is a good handgun, and in my opinion one of the finest fighting firearms every produced, and because of their simple robust design will hold up over the long haul. There only fly in the ointment for my carry purposes is that the must be loaded with five rounds with an open chamber beneath the firing pin. The limit of five rounds is not much of a problem, but more important, is when a round is not fired the hammer is either let down on a live primer or one has to take the time to index the empty cylinder back to the top. This is hard to do when chasing something, stopping - cocking to shoot - not shooting - and resuming the chase. I love the SAA in its original form, but for desert carry and the things I do with a handgun I need a transfer bar safety.

The second category of SAA's are the clones with transfer bar safeties. Taurus Gaucho, Beretta Stampede, EAA Bounty Hunter, and perhaps others fit in this category. These folks have taken the SAA design and modified it to include a transfer bar safety. In my research I found that the SAA's design does not accept this modification well and that problems spring up around it and even if it works initially it will eventually fall apart. Look up Taurus' SAA offering on the internet and there is problem after problem associated with this set up (Taurus just had to have 4 clicks when cocking). The final nail in the coffin on this gun, at least for me, came from a posted response to a discussion about SAA clones on the leverguns forum. Here is the link http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... ar#p254117 Scroll down until you find a post by "Nate Kiowa Jones." This fella is actually Steve Young, a renowned Winchester Model 92 gunsmith who also works on SAA handguns. Steve is a good gunsmith (he did great work on my Win M71) and a straight shooter. I have yet to find fault with any of his advise on leverguns or other guns he knows about. Read his post and it will speak for itself. After I read it I dropped the Bounty Hunter and Gaucho from my list of guns I must have.

The third category of SAA is the Ruger New Vaquero. It is not a SAA clone in design or function, only in appearance, feel, and balance. It was designed from the bottom up to accept a transfer bar safety and if you feed it loads within it strength limitations it will shoot forever - or at least a very long time. It's a good solid SAA substitute that will hold up to hard and rugged use. It is the gun that I've chosen as my desert companion.

After I buy the NV, and still find a need to own an original designed SAA to have fun with and fill my need to own one of the finest fighting firearms ever made, I will get the best money can buy from USFA.

For what it's worth.

Idiot,
As you are seeing folks are beginning to see the same thing as me. The basic Colt design is a good design but it's still 175 year old technology. The parts are robust and have held their own over the years but I have yet to see a clone maker come up with a viable design that will allow for the add on safety that will handle the abuse.
The "D" cam uberti, the old Hammerli with the hammer mounted safety and now the Taurus Gaucho or even the Berretta stampede. Those small add-on parts don't fare well with heavy use.

As for the EAA bounty Hunter the saving grace with it is it's a good gun at a really good price and there is an easy fix for the poorly done transfer bar. Take that junk out and weld up the hammer face. Now you have a regular half cock SAA on a more robust frame for those heavier loads. The same gun as the old Hawes or Arminius SAA's actually made by the same folks.

I'm doing something similar with the Beretta Stampedes. The transfer bar fits inside the hammer. I take that junk out and epoxy a filler in the slot.

[firefuzz]

Has anyone tried the beratta stampede? I have had mine now for about 4 years and havn't had problems yet. Have not fired a lot of rounds threw it but it has done well hunting. It has killed what I have shot

Ron

Except for the painted on "case hardening" I like mine just fine. As soon as it wears off I'm having it done right.

Rob

[Pete44ru]

You ?MIGHT" just find out that those guns made with faux CCH won't take the real thing - one reason why some got the paint job (another being cost factors).

At least, when the paint job wears off, it'll look like an antique.

.

[oltimber]

I posted this response on another forum discussing the EAA Bounty Hunter. Most of post can also be applied to the Gaucho. In summary, I passed on the Gaucho I looked at.

Here's from my other post:

First let me begin by saying that most of the folks here on this board, and especially Lee Martin, John Taffin and Paco Kelly, have learned and forgotten more about single-actions then I know. Listen to them.

With that said I want to add this about the Bounty Hunter. In my search for a good Colt SAA type single-action that can be carried on my hip while beating about the desert I discovered the Bounty Hunter. As you may recall, I wanted something light and lively that could handle a 45 Colt load pushing the 270SAA bullet at a bit beyond 1,000 fps. I initially wanted to do this out of New Vaquero - I can't. The Bounty Hunter came up because it is a bit more stout than the New Vaquero but not as heavy (or stout) as a New Model Blackhawk. And because it has a transfer bar safety allowing the carry of a full six rounds.

In sum, this is what I found. There exist three major categories of Colt SAA handguns. The first category is an actual Single-Action Army. This category includes those manufactured by Colt, and all of the clones that closely match the Colt SAA in every aspect. The leader of this pack are those SAA's made by USFA. The SAA is a good handgun, and in my opinion one of the finest fighting firearms every produced, and because of their simple robust design will hold up over the long haul. There only fly in the ointment for my carry purposes is that the must be loaded with five rounds with an open chamber beneath the firing pin. The limit of five rounds is not much of a problem, but more important, is when a round is not fired the hammer is either let down on a live primer or one has to take the time to index the empty cylinder back to the top. This is hard to do when chasing something, stopping - cocking to shoot - not shooting - and resuming the chase. I love the SAA in its original form, but for desert carry and the things I do with a handgun I need a transfer bar safety.

The second category of SAA's are the clones with transfer bar safeties. Taurus Gaucho, Beretta Stampede, EAA Bounty Hunter, and perhaps others fit in this category. These folks have taken the SAA design and modified it to include a transfer bar safety. In my research I found that the SAA's design does not accept this modification well and that problems spring up around it and even if it works initially it will eventually fall apart. Look up Taurus' SAA offering on the internet and there is problem after problem associated with this set up (Taurus just had to have 4 clicks when cocking). The final nail in the coffin on this gun, at least for me, came from a posted response to a discussion about SAA clones on the leverguns forum. Here is the link http://www.levergunscommunity.com/viewt ... ar#p254117 Scroll down until you find a post by "Nate Kiowa Jones." This fella is actually Steve Young, a renowned Winchester Model 92 gunsmith who also works on SAA handguns. Steve is a good gunsmith (he did great work on my Win M71) and a straight shooter. I have yet to find fault with any of his advise on leverguns or other guns he knows about. Read his post and it will speak for itself. After I read it I dropped the Bounty Hunter and Gaucho from my list of guns I must have.

The third category of SAA is the Ruger New Vaquero. It is not a SAA clone in design or function, only in appearance, feel, and balance. It was designed from the bottom up to accept a transfer bar safety and if you feed it loads within it strength limitations it will shoot forever - or at least a very long time. It's a good solid SAA substitute that will hold up to hard and rugged use. It is the gun that I've chosen as my desert companion.

After I buy the NV, and still find a need to own an original designed SAA to have fun with and fill my need to own one of the finest fighting firearms ever made, I will get the best money can buy from USFA.

For what it's worth.

Idiot,
As you are seeing folks are beginning to see the same thing as me. The basic Colt design is a good design but it's still 175 year old technology. The parts are robust and have held their own over the years but I have yet to see a clone maker come up with a viable design that will allow for the add on safety that will handle the abuse.
The "D" cam uberti, the old Hammerli with the hammer mounted safety and now the Taurus Gaucho or even the Berretta stampede. Those small add-on parts don't fare well with heavy use.

As for the EAA bounty Hunter the saving grace with it is it's a good gun at a really good price and there is an easy fix for the poorly done transfer bar. Take that junk out and weld up the hammer face. Now you have a regular half cock SAA on a more robust frame for those heavier loads. The same gun as the old Hawes or Arminius SAA's actually made by the same folks.

I'm doing something similar with the Beretta Stampedes. The transfer bar fits inside the hammer. I take that junk out and epoxy a filler in the slot.

[Buck Elliott]

FWIW, I love my Beretta Stampedes -- yes TWO of 'em: a 4 3/4" and a 7 1/2", both in .45 Colt, and they are the "standard" models, with the painted-on colors. The 7 1/2" is a VERY early one, Serial # B000XX, and is the better of the two in fit and finish, but the shorter one seems to be a tiny bit more accurate -- at least for me...

They were both pretty slick -- right out of the box -- with the nod going to the 7 1/2", and I've fired THOUSANDS of rounds through each of them with no problems whatever.

The baked-on finish is beginning to flake off -- especially on the long-nose revolver, and there isn't a cold blue solution that will begin to touch it, for a cosmetic repair. Must be some kind of stainless...(?)

[oltimber]

Hi Buck,
How stout of loads have you been shooting in your Stampeds?
Ron

[Buck Elliott]

Hi Buck,
How stout of loads have you been shooting in your Stampeds?
Ron

My oft-quoted load of 23.5 gr of H-4198 under a 250-gr. Laser-Cast ( or CHey-Cast) slug. for 1100 fps.

[oltimber]

Hi Buck,
How stout of loads have you been shooting in your Stampeds?
Ron

My oft-quoted load of 23.5 gr of H-4198 under a 250-gr. Laser-Cast ( or CHey-Cast) slug. for 1100 fps.

Thanks Buck,
I have been shooting buffalo bore 255-gr for 100fps untill i get some brass built. Looking for a round that I can use in my puma 92 and stampede without blowing up the stampede.
Ron

[kooz]

I avoid all the foreign replicas, with the exception of Rossi 92's. I have had a few and had really bad luck with them and the lack of customer support. The replicas are getting very pricey these day's anyways, enough that you can get a USFA for about the same or a little more depending on the model, and there is NO comparison between the two. Go for the USFA and get a 1st rate made in USA six-shooter.

[airedaleman]

Agree with every one of the negative comments above. One of the few guns I regret having bought (and new, to boot). A blued/color case gun with 5-1/2" barrel in .357. Geeky, inaccurate hammer profile, grips with a bizarre logo and checkering pattern, an ejector rod about the diameter of a ball point refill, tiger stripe color on the frame, odd high-polish bluing, laser-cut logo on the left side of the barrel - and so forth.

What the heck was I thinking? I put about 500 fairly mild lead bullet hand loads through it (one chamber shaved lead), and sold it. Absolutely nothing to like about this gun!

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

I avoid all the foreign replicas, with the exception of Rossi 92's. I have had a few and had really bad luck with them and the lack of customer support. The replicas are getting very pricey these day's anyways, enough that you can get a USFA for about the same or a little more depending on the model, and there is NO comparison between the two. Go for the USFA and get a 1st rate made in USA six-shooter.

When it comes to SAA's I tend to agree. With one exception. I think the EMF great Western II's are the very best SAA's coming out of Italy now days. When EMF decided to import these, Will Hansen, EMF`s manager sent one to me for a look-see. He told me take it apart, shoot it, whatever I wanted to do. These guns are late 2nd gen configured, even the thread pitch is the same. They also have firing pin bushings like the originals. EMF did have them change what I think is the weakest link in the colt action, the leaf type hand spring. This small leaf type spring is probably the most often to break in a colt. They drill the frame under the grip for the Ruger style coil spring and plunger. These guns have the late 2nd /3rd gen style bolts and cams. the more rounded on the tip so it doesn't wear away the cam as fast. The only add-on safety is the two position base pin which is easily changed to the standard single type or just grind about 3/16" off the end and push the pin in all the way like the original. The other neat thing is they are available in stainless.

[Jeff Quinn]

I really like my Gaucho. I actually own one, and have fired a couple of others. I was impressed with the Gaucho, and bought mine back before they were so heavily discounted. Still, it was a lot of sixgun for the money. Most of the internet stuff that you read about any gun is just that....stuff. Well, this thing does not like the word "see-are-a-pee" for some reason. People repeat what they hear. Shooters continually buy a good gun, and then feed it the absolute cheapest ammo that they can find, and then blame the gun. I get emails everyday from such folks, and 95 percent of the time, we cure their problem by buying good ammo.

The hammer looks kinda funky on the Gaucho, but the timing on mine is perfect. it has a very sweet action, and good accuracy. It's not a Colt, but is also about one-fifth the price of a Colt right now. CDNN has them for around $249. Mine works, and works well.

[kooz]

Good point on taking internet advice, one must be careful for sure. When I am asked these questions by customers, I will give whatever personal experience I think will help and usually also add that they should ask the opinion of the gunsmiths who work on these guns regularly. We are blessed with being in an age where there are plenty of custom sixgun smiths currently active . Most of these custom smiths are friendly and more than willing to take a moment and give you their opinion.

I know this next point is a little off topic, but I believe it is worth a mention. Another useful tool I have used when contemplating the purchase of an autoloader, is to call and speak to some of the ranges that rent these guns. These rental guns are typically run hard and put away wet. You can get a pretty good idea of what autos are reliable under some pretty tough and gritty conditions, by asking the guy at the counter which ones they have problems with.

Hope this helps, good luck with your purchase.

[Buck Elliott]

Visited a local toy store this afternoon, where they have TWO left-over gauchos (5 1/2" .45s) for sale ... $413 and Tax will get you either one. They've had them both on the shelf for over three years.

[Nate Kiowa Jones]

Good point on taking internet advice, one must be careful for sure. When I am asked these questions by customers, I will give whatever personal experience I think will help and usually also add that they should ask the opinion of the gunsmiths who work on these guns regularly. We are blessed with being in an age where there are plenty of custom sixgun smiths currently active . Most of these custom smiths are friendly and more than willing to take a moment and give you their opinion.

I know this next point is a little off topic, but I believe it is worth a mention. Another useful tool I have used when contemplating the purchase of an autoloader, is to call and speak to some of the ranges that rent these guns. These rental guns are typically run hard and put away wet. You can get a pretty good idea of what autos are reliable under some pretty tough and gritty conditions, by asking the guy at the counter which ones they have problems with.

Hope this helps, good luck with your purchase.

Now that's a good idea. Somebody there has to keep them running and you can bet he will know the short coming. My opinions on these come from working on the guns for the CAS shooters. These folks run these guns hard and often. The weak link guns show up pretty quick. Most of the SAA's with the add-on safety parts don't have a very good track record with these folks.

Please don't equate the Rugers with the traditional Colt style action. They may look the same on the outside but are nothing alike inside. The ruger lock works were designed in the 1950's. The colt style lock design is basically unchanged since 1836.

The CAS game is about racing but instead of cars we are using guns. In that analogy comparing Rugers to Colts is like comparing model T`s to 60`s muscle cars.
For the CAS game the Rugers rule.

[Nate C.]

I haven't put thousands of rounds through it, haven't competed in a CAS match with it, and haven't jumped out of an airplane with it, but I have no complaints about my Gaucho in .45LC.

[COSteve]

Visited a local toy store this afternoon, where they have TWO left-over gauchos (5 1/2" .45s) for sale ... $413 and Tax will get you either one. They've had them both on the shelf for over three years.

And I'll guess that they stay there awhile longer at that price. CDNN has some in 7.5" for $250.

[txpete]

pssst....steve buy a ruger.my ruger accusport bisley 45 colt is the best shooting single action revolver I have ever owned.
pete

[COSteve]

See update on 1st page.

[Pete44ru]

my 'friend' had thought he'd be able to pawn it off on me as a new pistol. When I called his game he was embarrassed and when I told him his Gaucho wasn't worth but $125 to me he got mad.

With "friends", like that, you don't need enemies.

.

[COSteve]

In truth, he's a friend of a friend, however, we did go out drinking together once along time ago so I was surprised at his attempt. Needless to say, he's dropped off of my 'friends' list.

[Ysabel Kid]

I have fondled these at the NRA shows over the last few years, but can't remember - does the Gaucho have the "four clicks" of a traditional Colt? Also, if I recall correctly, the grip seemed a little smaller/more slender than a Colt or most Colt-clones. Am I remembering correctly?

[Ysabel Kid]

Visited a local toy store this afternoon, where they have TWO left-over gauchos (5 1/2" .45s) for sale ... $413 and Tax will get you either one. They've had them both on the shelf for over three years.

And I'll guess that they stay there awhile longer at that price. CDNN has some in 7.5" for $250.

Steve - did you call for that quote, or do you have access to a secret webpage with the prices?

[airedaleman]

I have fondled these at the NRA shows over the last few years, but can't remember - does the Gaucho have the "four clicks" of a traditional Colt? Also, if I recall correctly, the grip seemed a little smaller/more slender than a Colt or most Colt-clones. Am I remembering correctly?

Four clicks yes; the grip very close if not exactly the same. But the checkering pattern and that stylized bull they use as their logo... Really, don't bother.