anyone make a curved metal but stock for a cowboy 45-70?

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anyone make a curved metal but stock for a cowboy 45-70?

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im looking for saomeone to make or know of anyone making a rear butt stock for a marlin cowboy 45-70 rifle that has a curved metal plate like a 1886 type anyone know of one that will fit this rifle?
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ARE YOU ACTUALLY CONSIDERING CHANGING THE BUTTSTOCK ON YOUR MARLIN 45-70 FROM A SHOTGUN STYLE BUTTPLATE TO A CURVED STYLE BUTTPLATE ??
INTENTIONALLY ??
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hahahaha yes... i shoot light loads for local whitetail prob shoot it 4-5 times a season but yes i want the curved butplate.... gotta be someone who makes one ot a complete walnut replacement stock?
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http://www.treebonecarving.com/id9.html

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And another

http://www.precisiongunstocks.com/index1.html

straight or pistol grip. All it takes is patience to do it yourself. Ccustom made will cost you as much as the rifle is worth.
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thanks guys ill get with terry after the holidays
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Terry Murbach wrote:ARE YOU ACTUALLY CONSIDERING CHANGING THE BUTTSTOCK ON YOUR MARLIN 45-70 FROM A SHOTGUN STYLE BUTTPLATE TO A CURVED STYLE BUTTPLATE ??
INTENTIONALLY ??
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Donniedee, I like a crescent buttstock on a rifle. Not only does it look good, but it fits just perfect around my upper arm and, yes, I've had an 1886 .45-70 with a crescent butt, along with quite a few other calibers. In my humble opinion, the changeover from crescent buttstock to shotgun buttstock was one of the biggest mistakes of the early 20th century. (Well ...... I suppose there were one or two bigger ones, but you get my drift). 8) With a crescent buttstock, a drunken baboon could shoot accurately but them shotgun butts, well nobody has a flat front on their upper arm for one of those dad-gummed misshapen things. No wonder the fellows at the range where I shoot couldn't hit the inside of a barn 9 out of 10 shots if they were standing in it.

As for who can make good stocks and who makes terrible ones, check out this thread http://www.winchestercollector.org/foru ... php?t=3017
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KirkD, I agree the crescent stocks look good, but there is a big difference in felt recoil in 45.70 with that type of stock, if you fire eight rounds in a row your shoulder will be sore big time!
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rodeo kid wrote:KirkD, I agree the crescent stocks look good, but there is a big difference in felt recoil in 45.70 with that type of stock, if you fire eight rounds in a row your shoulder will be sore big time!
I would respectfully disagree. I've owned six different 45-70's some with shotgun butts and some with crescent butts. When I practice, I tend to shoot at least 20 rounds per session and shoot both offhand and resting on my shooting bag. I find the crescent butts much easier on the shoulder BUT (and it is a big 'BUT') it does depend upon where one places the butt. I place the butt on my upper arm at the top end of the bicep, as shown in the photos below. A curved butt spreads out the contact area much better around the upper arm than a shotgun butt. So my preference for heavy recoil is a crescent butt over a shotgun butt. Not only does it look better, but it feels a lot better as well.

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Not all cressent buttplates are created equal. The ones that I have on my rifles are all of generous proportions and fit around the joint of my arm to my shoulder - just in a bit more than Kirk is showing. I have one on my .44 Mag Rossi, a 94 Win 30-30AI and my m95 Win in 30 U.S. - none of these are what I would describe as "feirce kickers" - I wouldn't want one on my 95 Marlin as I do like to shoot some hot loads from it and it's a light rifle...

Here is the one that I used on my Win 94 30-30 AI that I put together: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=2524 ... _BUTTPLATE

You need to drill your own mounting holes. They have some others too.

Here's another brand: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=56/P ... _BUTTPLATE
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I vote that the crescent is the most attractive and elegant and resides on several of my favorites. Shooting regularly has me leaning towards shotgun butt for smooth shouldering over and over. But for using the butt stock for close quarters self defense, nothing says skull crusher or nose breaker like a crescent. :twisted: A work of art.
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Terry Murbach wrote:ARE YOU ACTUALLY CONSIDERING CHANGING THE BUTTSTOCK ON YOUR MARLIN 45-70 FROM A SHOTGUN STYLE BUTTPLATE TO A CURVED STYLE BUTTPLATE ??
INTENTIONALLY ??




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I was once told that the crescent butt stock was intended to help stabilize the rifle while riding a horse. The crescent rode in lower bicep area above the elbow which brought the receiver back to your face instead of moving your face forward towards the receiver. That was so you could easily hold the reins with your other hand while holding the forestock. That's what I read some where...I think around the Cody area of Wyoming. Personally I do like the asthetics of the curved or crescent stock and it does seem to put two bruises on my upper arm when I place it like Kirk has it, after twenty thirty rounds though. 'Course my '73 .44-40 I can shoot all day into tomorrow and it'll never bother me. The best shape all the way around, I think, is like on the old Trapdoors or Spencers, they more closely form with the human form in the shoulder area and still have a semblence of style....just my opinion. Which of course is the correct one... :twisted:
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I hope everyone has had a chance to see the 2010 KirkD Canadian Gun Show! :lol:
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nemhed wrote:I hope everyone has had a chance to see the 2010 KirkD Canadian Gun Show! :lol:
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