550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
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550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
I posted my introduction yesterday and decided to post the video I was talking about; the one which the validity was called into question. I also have some info on how I did it.
This is the best shot I have ever made with any gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Veqj22KwVw
Yes, there is some luck to the 550 yard shot; no one was more surprised than I when I knew I hit that tiny target. Having said that, there is a lot of skill, preparation, and maintenance involved too. Here are the 12 shots before the 550 yard shot.
The 3 hi-left shots were the group I shot after load development. That day I had a 3-5mph 12 o'clock wind. That is a 1 15/16 inch group at 300 yards; .64moa. My first group with that scope on my Winchester using the Hornady 160 grain FTX bullets.
The next 3 shots numbered in red pen are the zeroing of my scope at 300 yards. The 3rd shot hit the triangle and broke a chip off.
The shots numbered in black are from the next day while zeroing at 400 yards. There was a 7-10mph 9 o'clock wind at that time. The first shot I missjudged the wind by 7 1/2 inches and the elevation by 5 inches. I expected that at that range being a new load and my first 400 yard shot with the FTX bullets.
My scope doesn't track as the turret reads, so I was getting used to it with those shots also.
When I had it as good as I could with adjustments, seeing that I am just trying to get my zeros at different distances, I proceeded to 500 yards... only that I could not get a clear shot at 500 from the bench I was using so I had to go a little further.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1dUJe2JoSs
When I moved to 550, I basically already had the wind doped, I just added another click left.
The elevation was a matter of figuring how wrong my estimates was which I got from the Hornady site the night before. On my way back from placing the target I debated with myself what my setting would be.
The rest is history... Well, old news anyway.
I should add...
One of the most important things I do when shooting the 30-30 is let the barrel cool between shots. After each shot I leave the action open, walk to my target, mark it, walk back then get ready for the next shot. Only when I am ready to aim will I close the action. If it is hot out and the sun is beating down on the barrel, I will run a wet patch of bore cleaner down the bore, then run a dry one down it.
I try to make the conditions the same from one shot to another. Basically, I'm always shooting a "cold bore" shot.
Since I can't free float the barrel, I'll just get around needing it.
This is the best shot I have ever made with any gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Veqj22KwVw
Yes, there is some luck to the 550 yard shot; no one was more surprised than I when I knew I hit that tiny target. Having said that, there is a lot of skill, preparation, and maintenance involved too. Here are the 12 shots before the 550 yard shot.
The 3 hi-left shots were the group I shot after load development. That day I had a 3-5mph 12 o'clock wind. That is a 1 15/16 inch group at 300 yards; .64moa. My first group with that scope on my Winchester using the Hornady 160 grain FTX bullets.
The next 3 shots numbered in red pen are the zeroing of my scope at 300 yards. The 3rd shot hit the triangle and broke a chip off.
The shots numbered in black are from the next day while zeroing at 400 yards. There was a 7-10mph 9 o'clock wind at that time. The first shot I missjudged the wind by 7 1/2 inches and the elevation by 5 inches. I expected that at that range being a new load and my first 400 yard shot with the FTX bullets.
My scope doesn't track as the turret reads, so I was getting used to it with those shots also.
When I had it as good as I could with adjustments, seeing that I am just trying to get my zeros at different distances, I proceeded to 500 yards... only that I could not get a clear shot at 500 from the bench I was using so I had to go a little further.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1dUJe2JoSs
When I moved to 550, I basically already had the wind doped, I just added another click left.
The elevation was a matter of figuring how wrong my estimates was which I got from the Hornady site the night before. On my way back from placing the target I debated with myself what my setting would be.
The rest is history... Well, old news anyway.
I should add...
One of the most important things I do when shooting the 30-30 is let the barrel cool between shots. After each shot I leave the action open, walk to my target, mark it, walk back then get ready for the next shot. Only when I am ready to aim will I close the action. If it is hot out and the sun is beating down on the barrel, I will run a wet patch of bore cleaner down the bore, then run a dry one down it.
I try to make the conditions the same from one shot to another. Basically, I'm always shooting a "cold bore" shot.
Since I can't free float the barrel, I'll just get around needing it.
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
Nice shooting. We have a 400 target at the local range. There used to be a lady that came every Sunday with a scoped Winchester Model 70 308. She would hit a target just a bit larger than the milk jug until you were tired of watching her off the bench. Harder of course with open sights.
Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
Old Savage wrote:Nice shooting. We have a 400 target at the local range. There used to be a lady that came every Sunday with a scoped Winchester Model 70 308. She would hit a target just a bit larger than the milk jug until you were tired of watching her off the bench. Harder of course with open sights.
I have shot a jug with my 30-30 with iron sights. It took me 3 tries but I did get it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPWM39rgBzs
I tried to go further with a home made sight blade but I was using factory ammo at the time and they just wouldn't hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcJL9bCF3Dk
But with my Eddystone US Model of 1917 I can hit pretty well at that range, now that I hand-load.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j69imxPtW4
And I also made that cross to aid in my accuracy, it helps me get around the mirage effect.
As you can tell, I record everything.
Thanks!
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
How much drop at 550 yards?
Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
Nixterdemus wrote:How much drop at 550 yards?
It came to a 21.5moa adjustment from my 100 yard setting. My scope seems to not adjust as it should but that comes to about 10 feet.
When I used the Hornady site ballistic calculator, it told me that I would get that amount of drop at 500 yards, so my scopes adjustments are a little skewed.
I was thinking it should be about 12.5 feet.
When the temperature gets above 32 degrees, I'll use my new chronograph to see what my muzzle velocity is; that should give me a better idea of how much it really is dropping.
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
I AM NOT SURPRISED ATALL. ANYONE WHO WOULD DOUBT THIS IS POSSIBLE SHOWS THEIR OWN MONUMENTAL IGNORANCE. ACTUALLY IT IS NOT ALL THE DIFFICULT AT ALL IF YOU CAN SHOOT. IF YOU CAN'T...WELL SORRY, YOU GO JOIN THE CROWD OF DOUBTERS/WHINERS OVER YONDER THERE. I STOOD AND WATCHED JIM TAYLOR HIT THE 1000 YARD BUFFALO AT WHITTINGTON WITH HIS 30-30 CARBINE AND LEAD BULLET HANDLOADS.
DO NOT EVER FORGET THE U.S. ARMY USED TO SHOOT THE WIMBLETON MATCHES AT 1000 YARDS WITH THEIR '73 45-70 TRAPDOOR RIFLES WITH RESULTS HARDLY EXCELLED BY MODERN SHOOTERS DOING THE SAME MATCHES TODAY. THE MID-RANGE TRAJECTORY WAS 35' ; NO PROBLEM ATALL TO DROP BULLET AFTER BULLET FROM ON HIGH INTO THE CENTER OF THE 1000 YARD TARGET.
AHHHH...AND LASTLY, DO NOT FORGET THE TWO WORDS "BUFFINGTON SIGHTS".
DO NOT EVER FORGET THE U.S. ARMY USED TO SHOOT THE WIMBLETON MATCHES AT 1000 YARDS WITH THEIR '73 45-70 TRAPDOOR RIFLES WITH RESULTS HARDLY EXCELLED BY MODERN SHOOTERS DOING THE SAME MATCHES TODAY. THE MID-RANGE TRAJECTORY WAS 35' ; NO PROBLEM ATALL TO DROP BULLET AFTER BULLET FROM ON HIGH INTO THE CENTER OF THE 1000 YARD TARGET.
AHHHH...AND LASTLY, DO NOT FORGET THE TWO WORDS "BUFFINGTON SIGHTS".
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
That is good shooting. I can see that your barrel would have plenty of time to cool off if you walk out there and back each time. I enjoy posts (and videos) like yours. It shows what can be done and turns the lights on for a lot of folks.
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
Cool and video proof to boot!!! Great job Rifleman!!!
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
Thats good going Sir well done
Sure wish my last carbine would of shot like that! The cross bolt saftey model I had years ago was upto that kind of shooting and yep I wish i still had it
Nath.
Sure wish my last carbine would of shot like that! The cross bolt saftey model I had years ago was upto that kind of shooting and yep I wish i still had it
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
That is some great shooting Rifleman, and no I don't doubt you either.
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
I've only shot out to 400yds with my 30-30 with good results and I do not doubt your success at 550.
I think you have found a home here. Welcome!
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
Rifleman,
Just looking at the first few seconds of video, it seems your barrel is a little long or your magazine is a bit short! What kind of modifications have you done to your rifle??
Just looking at the first few seconds of video, it seems your barrel is a little long or your magazine is a bit short! What kind of modifications have you done to your rifle??
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
You came to a good place here. I remember the post when Jim Taylor shot the white buffalo with a made on the spot cardboard sight. 200 hundred yards is all I have shot very much but I did get a groundhog at 220 yards. My 1950 94 30wcf wears a Marbles tang sight.
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Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
I've tried my hand at Minisniping with .177 air rifles where an empty 9mm shell casing at 35 yards equates to shooting a man sized object 1000 yards away.
Re: 550 Yard 30-30 Winchester Video
Other than the scope and a shim I made to elevate the back-end of the scope a bit, it is the same as when I bought it new 30 years ago.Lobo wrote:Rifleman,
Just looking at the first few seconds of video, it seems your barrel is a little long or your magazine is a bit short! What kind of modifications have you done to your rifle??