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NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
Three pages of Model 92 leverguns have beed added to the Rossi website - all labeled as "new", presumeably new introductions.
http://www.rossiusa.com/product-list.cfm?category=8
Presto, chango !
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
Well I see .357's, ,44's, ,45's, and .44-40's but no .32-20.
I didn't check every one, maybe I missed it.
I didn't check every one, maybe I missed it.
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Well... they ARE "new" to ROSSI... since before now Rossi didn't carry them directly...
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I didn't find it either... and a 24" octagon barreled one would be the next thing I bought!Rusty wrote:...but no .32-20.
I didn't check every one, maybe I missed it.
Although that 16" .45 Colt looks sweet!
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I still want a trapper length .357
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Looks like they still have the safety gizmo on the bolt. Kind of spoils it for me.
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Guys, the only thing that's changed is the route they chose to get them here. As for a 32-20 Rossi. Don't hold your breath. This is the only one I know of but it started life as a 357m.
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
Steve,
To convert that from a .357 to a 32-20 did you rebarrel it, or reline it?
Joe
To convert that from a .357 to a 32-20 did you rebarrel it, or reline it?
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
FYI, from the Rossi website, a Rossi news release (in part):
The Legend Returns - The New Rossi R92 Line
MIAMI – The classic lever-action R92 has returned to the Rossi lineup. Modeled after the famous rifle that won the wild west and became a cultural icon, the R92 combines the heritage of old-world design with new innovations and safety features that only Rossi can offer.
The octagon barrelled rifle model comes in these popular calibers: .38/.357 Mag., .44 Mag., .45 Colt and .44-40 Win. and in two barrel lengths – 24-inch and 20-inch.
The rifle also comes in a variety of finish combinations including blue, blue/brass, blue/case hardened and stainless.
All rifle models have an authentic curved buttplate in a finish that matches the receiver of the rifle.
The round barrel delivers shorter, lighter versions of their big brothers with 16-inch and 20-inch carbine models - available in .38/.357, .44 Mag,. .45 Colt, .44-40 Win and .454 Casull.
The R92 round barrel comes in two finish options – blue and stainless.
All round barrel models feature crescent buttplates and an extended front sight.
For brush hunting and wilderness packing, Rossi R92 carbine .454 Casull features optional magazine-tube loading and recoil absorbing butt pad.
MSRP $590.00 - $757.00.
The Rossi revolution of firearm design and manufacture started with the founding of the company in 1889 by Amadeo Rossi.
In 2008, Rossi production was acquired by Forjas Taurus S.A.
Now, as part of Taurus International, Rossi looks forward to providing you with the next generation of great firearms.
The complete line of Rossi firearms features the exclusive Taurus Security Systemâ, which utilizes a key to lock the firearm and offers additional safety for youth.
For more information about Rossi Firearms, a Division of BrazTech International, contact: 16175 Northwest 49th Avenue, Miami, Florida 33014, 1-800-948-8029, or visit http://www.rossiusa.com.
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The Legend Returns - The New Rossi R92 Line
MIAMI – The classic lever-action R92 has returned to the Rossi lineup. Modeled after the famous rifle that won the wild west and became a cultural icon, the R92 combines the heritage of old-world design with new innovations and safety features that only Rossi can offer.
The octagon barrelled rifle model comes in these popular calibers: .38/.357 Mag., .44 Mag., .45 Colt and .44-40 Win. and in two barrel lengths – 24-inch and 20-inch.
The rifle also comes in a variety of finish combinations including blue, blue/brass, blue/case hardened and stainless.
All rifle models have an authentic curved buttplate in a finish that matches the receiver of the rifle.
The round barrel delivers shorter, lighter versions of their big brothers with 16-inch and 20-inch carbine models - available in .38/.357, .44 Mag,. .45 Colt, .44-40 Win and .454 Casull.
The R92 round barrel comes in two finish options – blue and stainless.
All round barrel models feature crescent buttplates and an extended front sight.
For brush hunting and wilderness packing, Rossi R92 carbine .454 Casull features optional magazine-tube loading and recoil absorbing butt pad.
MSRP $590.00 - $757.00.
The Rossi revolution of firearm design and manufacture started with the founding of the company in 1889 by Amadeo Rossi.
In 2008, Rossi production was acquired by Forjas Taurus S.A.
Now, as part of Taurus International, Rossi looks forward to providing you with the next generation of great firearms.
The complete line of Rossi firearms features the exclusive Taurus Security Systemâ, which utilizes a key to lock the firearm and offers additional safety for youth.
For more information about Rossi Firearms, a Division of BrazTech International, contact: 16175 Northwest 49th Avenue, Miami, Florida 33014, 1-800-948-8029, or visit http://www.rossiusa.com.
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Wow - I like THIS one...
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+1J Miller wrote:Steve,
To convert that from a .357 to a 32-20 did you rebarrel it, or reline it?
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Me too. Loose that "safety". The safety is between one's ears. I hope someone is listening. 1886.J Miller wrote:Looks like they still have the safety gizmo on the bolt. Kind of spoils it for
me.
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Some really nice looking 92's. I guess the only question I have is the overall quality of the Rossi. I'll admit that I really don't know anything about them. I just looked at one today (.357 Trapper) and on the surface it looks great, but what does it take to make them shoot? Are they reliable right out of the box? I'm looking for a good camp gun and this looks like a possibility, but I don't know how it compares to a Marlin. I don't want to put more money into the gun just to make it reliable.
What can you guys tell me?
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Tycer wrote:+1J Miller wrote:Steve,
To convert that from a .357 to a 32-20 did you rebarrel it, or reline it?
Joe
It's re-lined but that was the easy part. Getting it to feed the smaller round consistantly required adding metal back to the guides, the lever and the carrier. That's why I don't think Rossi will ever make one.
As far as the 92s being new or back in the rossi lineup, I guess because the only guns that carried the rossi name for the last few years were the break action single shot rifles and shotguns. Now that Rossi/Braztec is importing them I supposed that part is new.
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[ I guess the only question I have is the overall quality of the Rossi.]
[I'll admit that I really don't know anything about them.]
Then, Why would you automatically question the quality of something you admittedly know knothing about ?
[what does it take to make them shoot?]
I bought two NIB/NOS Rossi's in the last two months - a .357 & a .45, both 16" big loops - all I did was peep them to get excellent accuracy.
[Are they reliable right out of the box?]
Mine have been - but so far I've only put 1,000 rounds through them during zeroing/load testing/practice/etc.
I don't however , shoot CAS - Steve/Kiowa, is better suited for that answer, since he is THE premier Model 92 tune-up artist/gunsmith available (please refer to his website, stevesgunz).
[I don't know how it compares to a Marlin.]
Buy one, and find out.
ANY Model 92, beit a Winchester/Browning/Miroku/Rossi/Chiappa, is both smoother than my Marlin 1894 .44 and not as easy to disassemble - but not hard to work on, either.
The bolt-top safety, if unwanted, can go away in less than 30mins.
I replaced one of mine with a flat plug and the other with a bolt peep. YMMV, here.
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[I'll admit that I really don't know anything about them.]
Then, Why would you automatically question the quality of something you admittedly know knothing about ?
[what does it take to make them shoot?]
I bought two NIB/NOS Rossi's in the last two months - a .357 & a .45, both 16" big loops - all I did was peep them to get excellent accuracy.
[Are they reliable right out of the box?]
Mine have been - but so far I've only put 1,000 rounds through them during zeroing/load testing/practice/etc.
I don't however , shoot CAS - Steve/Kiowa, is better suited for that answer, since he is THE premier Model 92 tune-up artist/gunsmith available (please refer to his website, stevesgunz).
[I don't know how it compares to a Marlin.]
Buy one, and find out.
ANY Model 92, beit a Winchester/Browning/Miroku/Rossi/Chiappa, is both smoother than my Marlin 1894 .44 and not as easy to disassemble - but not hard to work on, either.
The bolt-top safety, if unwanted, can go away in less than 30mins.
I replaced one of mine with a flat plug and the other with a bolt peep. YMMV, here.
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+1BlaineG wrote:I still want a trapper length .357
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I'de rather wait longer pay more do what ever it takes to get an old Winchester, it just isn't the same.
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The gizmo on the bolt can be replaced quickly, that's true. But it is a visual irritant that I'd rather just not look at.
~AND~ these new Rossis have the Taurus key lock system too. Read that in the quote on page two of this thread I think. THAT is the deal breaker as I will not own a gun with a key lock.
1886,
I'd love to have an original 92, but I've never seen on in good shooting condition that was priced for a normal working man to buy it. I guess I got into the shooting game too late.
Not only that, but I'm quite fond of shooting the .45 Colt from my lever guns. So since Winchester never made an original 92 in .45 Colt I'm limited to the replicas.
Joe
~AND~ these new Rossis have the Taurus key lock system too. Read that in the quote on page two of this thread I think. THAT is the deal breaker as I will not own a gun with a key lock.
1886,
I'd love to have an original 92, but I've never seen on in good shooting condition that was priced for a normal working man to buy it. I guess I got into the shooting game too late.
Not only that, but I'm quite fond of shooting the .45 Colt from my lever guns. So since Winchester never made an original 92 in .45 Colt I'm limited to the replicas.
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Of course, ther is the evil satisfaction gained by intentionally removing a Lawyer Device and welding over the hole...
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J Miller wrote:The gizmo on the bolt can be replaced quickly, that's true. But it is a visual irritant that I'd rather just not look at.
~AND~ these new Rossis have the Taurus key lock system too. Read that in the quote on page two of this thread I think. THAT is the deal breaker as I will not own a gun with a key lock.
1886,
I'd love to have an original 92, but I've never seen on in good shooting condition that was priced for a normal working man to buy it. I guess I got into the shooting game too late.
Not only that, but I'm quite fond of shooting the .45 Colt from my lever guns. So since Winchester never made an original 92 in .45 Colt I'm limited to the replicas.
Joe
Joe, are you sure about that. I've had several of the Rossi/Braztecs come in and none have that. Just the bolt top safety.
BTW,
This is my solution for the blue safety's.
But, for the Stainless guns I also do this flush filler. I am not a big fan of welding on pressure parts so this one is a tight fitting tapered plug pressed in and pinned then ground and polished. Other than the "F" and "S" it is almost invisible. (I left the red and green paint it this one for effect)
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But why this?
I can understand that you need a higher comb if you want a scope, but why not change the stock, instead of adding that ugly piece of?
And why the saddle ring,; which looks to only be available on the "scoped" models?
I can understand that you need a higher comb if you want a scope, but why not change the stock, instead of adding that ugly piece of?
And why the saddle ring,; which looks to only be available on the "scoped" models?
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I ordered a 16" Rossi 92, .357 from Bud's right after Taurus took over. Mine is stamped "Made in Brazil-By Taurus" under the lever, "Rossi Model 92" on the barrel, and "Braziltech Int'l LLC, Miami, Fl-USA" on the tang.Meeteetse wrote:Some really nice looking 92's. I guess the only question I have is the overall quality of the Rossi. I'll admit that I really don't know anything about them. I just looked at one today (.357 Trapper) and on the surface it looks great, but what does it take to make them shoot? Are they reliable right out of the box? I'm looking for a good camp gun and this looks like a possibility, but I don't know how it compares to a Marlin. I don't want to put more money into the gun just to make it reliable.
What can you guys tell me?
As far as reliability, build quality, and accuracy, I give it an A in all three areas. Even with my old eyes I can get 1" groups at 50 yds, if I do my part. I did this with the factory sights and with the Skinner peeps I put on it. I can even get tight groups using just the ghost ring with the Skinner sights (the front sight is still stock). This is all using a front rest and rear bag. I don't do as well shooting offhand, but I will say that it is the most accurate lever action I have using iron sights.
The bluing is very deep and shiny, fit and finish is good except for one small area of the stock that is a little proud. It feeds and ejects reliably, as long as I keep the rifle level when chambering a round.
I am very pleased, especially since this was a mail order rifle bought sight unseen. It would be the last rifle I would part with from my modest collection.
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No key lock on the Rossi/Taurus I bought from Bud's a few months ago. It does have the stupid little lever safety on top of the bolt, but no key lock.J Miller wrote:
~AND~ these new Rossis have the Taurus key lock system too. Read that in the quote on page two of this thread I think. THAT is the deal breaker as I will not own a gun with a key lock.
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I don't like them in general, but with ALL of the safeties/locks and so forth, my opinion also depends on how they are made, and how (if desired) they could be defeated.J Miller wrote:...these new Rossis have the Taurus key lock system too. Read that in the quote on page two of this thread I think. THAT is the deal breaker as I will not own a gun with a key lock.
The Taurus handgun one I have is simply a hex setscrew in the trigger that contacts the frame and doesn't allow cocking. It isn't at all likely to accidentally set or unset itself, and some locktite could help (or some epoxy could really help). I think it could be simply removed in its entirety, as well.
If THAT is the way the rifle ones are, I wouldn't fret one bit, and you could 'defeat' them if you desired/dared.
I don't think their bolt-mounted safeties are very well made though, and they seem prone to setting/unsetting themselves.
Of course the OTHER issue is the legalities of having a gun with a defeated safety; if it fell off a shelf and hit someone in the head and knocked them out, some lawyer would say it was because you'd "altered the safety". That, of course (like many other things in society) is the fault of the LAWYERS more than the gun designers.
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The "ring" is available on most all the carbine models. Given that's just a picture... maybe it's removeable? And hey... IMNSHO, if yer gonna put a scope on a Mdl 92... yer ain't gonna add "ugly" by that thing!CJM wrote:But why this?
I can understand that you need a higher comb if you want a scope, but why not change the stock, instead of adding that ugly piece of?
And why the saddle ring,; which looks to only be available on the "scoped" models?
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If you read my question correctly, I was asking others to comment on the quality because I know nothing about them. Otherwise, thanks for your comments.Pete44ru wrote:[ I guess the only question I have is the overall quality of the Rossi.]
[I'll admit that I really don't know anything about them.]
Then, Why would you automatically question the quality of something you admittedly know knothing about ?.
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------66GTO wrote:I ordered a 16" Rosso 92, .357 from Bud's right after Taurus took over. Mine is stamped "Made in Brazil-By Taurus" under the lever, "Rossi Model 92" on the barrel, and "Braziltech Int'l LLC, Miami, Fl-USA" on the tang.Meeteetse wrote:Some really nice looking 92's. I guess the only question I have is the overall quality of the Rossi. I'll admit that I really don't know anything about them. I just looked at one today (.357 Trapper) and on the surface it looks great, but what does it take to make them shoot? Are they reliable right out of the box? I'm looking for a good camp gun and this looks like a possibility, but I don't know how it compares to a Marlin. I don't want to put more money into the gun just to make it reliable.
What can you guys tell me?
As far as reliability, build quality, and accuracy, I give in an A in all three areas. Even with my old eyes I can get 1" groups at 50 yds, if I do my part. I did this with the factory sights and with the Skinner peeps I put on it. I can even get tight groups using just the ghost ring with the Skinner sights (the front sight is still stock). This is all using a front rest and rear bag. I don't do as well shooting offhand, but I will say that it is the most accurate lever action I have using iron sights.
The bluing is very deep and shiny, fit and finish is good except for one small area of the stock that is a little proud. It feeds and ejects reliably, as long as I keep the rifle level when chambering a round.
I am very pleased, especially since this was a mail order rifle bought sight unseen. It would be the last rifle I would part with from my modest collection.
Thanks for a straight forward answer to my questions. Based on the answers I have gotten I think a .357 Trapper may come home. Now I have to decide if I want stainless or blued. Thanks again.
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
Steve and others,
I got the key lock from Pete44ru's post on page one. I couldn't find it on the Rossi web site.
Joe
I got the key lock from Pete44ru's post on page one. I couldn't find it on the Rossi web site.
The Taurus Security Systemâ is the key lock they put in the hammer.FYI, from the Rossi website, a Rossi news release (in part):
The Legend Returns - The New Rossi R92 Line
MIAMI – The classic lever-action R92 has returned to the Rossi lineup. Modeled after the famous rifle that won the wild west and became a cultural icon, the R92 combines the heritage of old-world design with new innovations and safety features that only Rossi can offer.
The octagon barrelled rifle model comes in these popular calibers: .38/.357 Mag., .44 Mag., .45 Colt and .44-40 Win. and in two barrel lengths – 24-inch and 20-inch.
The rifle also comes in a variety of finish combinations including blue, blue/brass, blue/case hardened and stainless.
All rifle models have an authentic curved buttplate in a finish that matches the receiver of the rifle.
The round barrel delivers shorter, lighter versions of their big brothers with 16-inch and 20-inch carbine models - available in .38/.357, .44 Mag,. .45 Colt, .44-40 Win and .454 Casull.
The R92 round barrel comes in two finish options – blue and stainless.
All round barrel models feature crescent buttplates and an extended front sight.
For brush hunting and wilderness packing, Rossi R92 carbine .454 Casull features optional magazine-tube loading and recoil absorbing butt pad.
MSRP $590.00 - $757.00.
The Rossi revolution of firearm design and manufacture started with the founding of the company in 1889 by Amadeo Rossi.
In 2008, Rossi production was acquired by Forjas Taurus S.A.
Now, as part of Taurus International, Rossi looks forward to providing you with the next generation of great firearms.
The complete line of Rossi firearms features the exclusive Taurus Security Systemâ, which utilizes a key to lock the firearm and offers additional safety for youth.
For more information about Rossi Firearms, a Division of BrazTech International, contact: 16175 Northwest 49th Avenue, Miami, Florida 33014, 1-800-948-8029, or visit http://www.rossiusa.com.
Joe
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
The quality of mine is excellent and in my view the angst over the safety is much ado about nothing. I think I actually like mine.
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Angst is an intangible, it can not be quantified, or logicaly explained.
There are two types of reality, reality as it is, it can not be altered.
Perceived reality, this is the one we most must deal with, and ( then for those who lack critical thinking skills ) perception ; becomes reality.
Angst is an intangible, it can not be quantified, or logicaly explained.
There are two types of reality, reality as it is, it can not be altered.
Perceived reality, this is the one we most must deal with, and ( then for those who lack critical thinking skills ) perception ; becomes reality.
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
Maybe the keylock is for the SAs imported by Rossi/Braztech. Can the plug that replaced the safety be drilled and tapped for the peep part of the Skinner Sight? A lock ring could be used to hold it in place for elevation and the front sight could be drifted for windage if in a dovetail. Or would it just be simpler to d&t it for a receiver sight? Wouldn't the receiver sight cover the plug when the bolt is closed?
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Or, just don't buy the darn things and write the factory a letter telling them why you won't buy. Take the stupid imbecilic key lock and safety gizmo off and I'll buy one, but not until.
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OS, you are certainly welcome to your opinions on things like key locks. But I see them in a different light and refuse to own any.
Joe
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OS, you are certainly welcome to your opinions on things like key locks. But I see them in a different light and refuse to own any.
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
This key lock discussion on the new Rossi 92 may be moot.
Has anyone seen a new Rossi Model 92 with a key lock? Like I stated earlier, mine does not have a key lock and Steve says in his post "Joe, are you sure about that. I've had several of the Rossi/Braztecs come in and none have that. Just the bolt top safety."
O.S., you mentioned your Rossi 92 safety is no problem to you. Is your safety a key lock or the little one on top of the bolt?
I think the statement on the Rossi web site that all Rossi's have the Taurus key lock safety should have been qualified to refer to all handguns, not to include the rifles. It wouldn't be the first time that a manufacturer's web site got it wrong.
Has anyone seen a new Rossi Model 92 with a key lock? Like I stated earlier, mine does not have a key lock and Steve says in his post "Joe, are you sure about that. I've had several of the Rossi/Braztecs come in and none have that. Just the bolt top safety."
O.S., you mentioned your Rossi 92 safety is no problem to you. Is your safety a key lock or the little one on top of the bolt?
I think the statement on the Rossi web site that all Rossi's have the Taurus key lock safety should have been qualified to refer to all handguns, not to include the rifles. It wouldn't be the first time that a manufacturer's web site got it wrong.
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
66GTO,
No I'm not positive about the 92 lever guns having the key lock. However I have personally seen the little Taurus pump 22s with the key lock in the hammer. So they could well mean that the 92s either are or will be fitted with them.
Joe
No I'm not positive about the 92 lever guns having the key lock. However I have personally seen the little Taurus pump 22s with the key lock in the hammer. So they could well mean that the 92s either are or will be fitted with them.
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The problem with that safety for the CAS shooters is it gets bumped on and they end up kicking several live rounds out on the clock before they figure out the safety is on.Old Savage wrote:The quality of mine is excellent and in my view the angst over the safety is much ado about nothing. I think I actually like mine.
I've had pig hunters tell that when moving through the thick the safety gets bumped on and the first shoot is just a snap as the pig is spooked off.
For what it's worth talking to customers from other country's like Canada and Australia the new Rossi's they are getting don't have the safety's. I send my DVD and parts to these folks regularly and none ever order the safety plugs.
That says a lot about our litigious nature here in the USA.
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
Steve,
Just curious but could you do a tight fit pressed in plug on the blue bolt as well? I know it would need to be reblued but I think it would look better.
Just curious.
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I have read hunting and range horror stories on this and other forums about every one of these lawyer inspired safety gadgets. The cross bolt safeties were prone to accidental and unknown engagements, the Rossi bolt safety is prone to the same thing. These devices are a nightmare. They don't belong to the gun, they were never part of the original design and they cause more trouble than they are worth. They are an answer to a non existent problem.
That is why I will not accept them. I have only one rifle that came so equipped and that was my Marlin 1894 Cowboy. That cross bolt gadget was quickly removed and replaced by the Ludwig kit. It still doesn't look right, but it cannot accidentally get engaged now. It didn't belong.
OK, rant off.
Joe
Just curious but could you do a tight fit pressed in plug on the blue bolt as well? I know it would need to be reblued but I think it would look better.
Just curious.
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I have read hunting and range horror stories on this and other forums about every one of these lawyer inspired safety gadgets. The cross bolt safeties were prone to accidental and unknown engagements, the Rossi bolt safety is prone to the same thing. These devices are a nightmare. They don't belong to the gun, they were never part of the original design and they cause more trouble than they are worth. They are an answer to a non existent problem.
That is why I will not accept them. I have only one rifle that came so equipped and that was my Marlin 1894 Cowboy. That cross bolt gadget was quickly removed and replaced by the Ludwig kit. It still doesn't look right, but it cannot accidentally get engaged now. It didn't belong.
OK, rant off.
Joe
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
J Miller wrote:Steve,
Just curious but could you do a tight fit pressed in plug on the blue bolt as well? I know it would need to be reblued but I think it would look better.
Just curious.
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I have read hunting and range horror stories on this and other forums about every one of these lawyer inspired safety gadgets. The cross bolt safeties were prone to accidental and unknown engagements, the Rossi bolt safety is prone to the same thing. These devices are a nightmare. They don't belong to the gun, they were never part of the original design and they cause more trouble than they are worth. They are an answer to a non existent problem.
That is why I will not accept them. I have only one rifle that came so equipped and that was my Marlin 1894 Cowboy. That cross bolt gadget was quickly removed and replaced by the Ludwig kit. It still doesn't look right, but it cannot accidentally get engaged now. It didn't belong.
OK, rant off.
Joe
Hi Joe,
Yes but it adds about an hour or so to the cost. It could be done fast and easy but I don't do hot salt blue here. It requires a dedicated area and you don't do just one bolt at a time. Plus there are folks that can do it cheaper than I can. What I do for just one bolt is Rust blue here and that takes time.
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Bought a Rossi 92 (stainless .357 Trapper) yesterday. There is no key lock on the gun, only the safety on top. Nice looking little gun. Anxious to try it out.
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Addressing the Quality issue raised, it's overall a reasonably priced decent rifle. It's popular with the CAS crowd and they work them hard with high round counts so it must be fairly rugged. I've only got about 900rds through mine so far but it works just fine.
It isn't museum quality and the wood is not the prettiest, but I'm satisfied with mine after Steve's DVD helped me slick up the action and lighten the trigger weight. I also got his ejector spring, steel mag plug, and safety replacement plug.
Also, my 357 is surprisingly accurate using a Marbles tang peep and 1/16" bead front sight, even at the long ranges I shoot with it (200+yds). That's partly because of the long sight radius and partly because I've found a reload recipe it really likes but plinking our 8" steel plate at 175yds is simple using 158grn bullets.
I'm so satisfied with my 24", hex barreled, case hardened framed 357mag rifle I'm ordering a 20" round barreled 357mag carbine tomorrow from Bud's.
It isn't museum quality and the wood is not the prettiest, but I'm satisfied with mine after Steve's DVD helped me slick up the action and lighten the trigger weight. I also got his ejector spring, steel mag plug, and safety replacement plug.
Also, my 357 is surprisingly accurate using a Marbles tang peep and 1/16" bead front sight, even at the long ranges I shoot with it (200+yds). That's partly because of the long sight radius and partly because I've found a reload recipe it really likes but plinking our 8" steel plate at 175yds is simple using 158grn bullets.
I'm so satisfied with my 24", hex barreled, case hardened framed 357mag rifle I'm ordering a 20" round barreled 357mag carbine tomorrow from Bud's.
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Pete44ru wrote:
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Hi Pete,
Yep, pretty much the same as this one.
This adaptor is setup for the Skinner, too. But, depending on the cost and availability I may go with a larger dia. stem just for durability.
This is the fixed version that still functions as a safety, too.
Ready to shoot position.
On safe position.
I've got the prototypes done and the patents pending. That was easy. The hardest part right now is finding a CNC production shop that is willing to do small lots.
Any CNC machinist out there look for small jobs?
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Steve,
I don't suppose you have a design in mind for an adjustable version that retains the saftey? Challenging I know but it does solve a couple of problems at once. I have been thinking that one is the best solution to the issues these bolt safties give rise to.
I don't suppose you have a design in mind for an adjustable version that retains the saftey? Challenging I know but it does solve a couple of problems at once. I have been thinking that one is the best solution to the issues these bolt safties give rise to.
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Alan Wood wrote:Steve,
I don't suppose you have a design in mind for an adjustable version that retains the saftey? Challenging I know but it does solve a couple of problems at once. I have been thinking that one is the best solution to the issues these bolt safties give rise to.
Hi Alan,
It's do-able but the problem was making it durable enough to be stuck up there on top the bolt. To retain the safety detent parts and also have a threaded stem you end up with some tiny delicate parts. That's also why I ended up with two different setups.
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Re: NEWSFLASH: Rossi Introduces 34 Model 92's as "NEW"
Since I truely believe that ultimate safety resides (and belongs between a shooter's ears, physical/mechanical safeties not-withstanding, I went with a straight plug on one Model 92 I mounted a peep on the top rails of, and the elevation-adjustable type shown on my other Model 92.
Both rifles required less than 1/16" of windage sight adjustment each (one front/one rear) to achieve zero - because care was taken to align them with the bore during fabrication/mounting.
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Both rifles required less than 1/16" of windage sight adjustment each (one front/one rear) to achieve zero - because care was taken to align them with the bore during fabrication/mounting.
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Nate Kiowa Jones wrote:Alan Wood wrote:Steve,
I don't suppose you have a design in mind for an adjustable version that retains the saftey? Challenging I know but it does solve a couple of problems at once. I have been thinking that one is the best solution to the issues these bolt safties give rise to.
Hi Alan,
It's do-able but the problem was making it durable enough to be stuck up there on top the bolt. To retain the safety detent parts and also have a threaded stem you end up with some tiny delicate parts. That's also why I ended up with two different setups.
Hello Steve,
Thank you for the information. Now that I think about how I use my rifles the fixed version with saftey retained would work. Will have to think about getting one of these rossis in 357 here one of these days.
Alan Wood