OT-Here's my plan to simulate a medium game animal

[Jason_W]

More of my weird projects. I want to take a break from using the waxy ballistic test media and do something a little more interesting. I thought I'd do my best to simulate a through the ribs, broadside hit on a medium to large game animal. For a mock-up, I was thinking: 1/4" of hide, --> 4" block of 20% gelatin --> matt of pork ribs --> 10" block of 10% gelatine --> ribs--> 4" 20% gel --> 1/4" hide. I'll have some blocks of basic softened paraffin behind the mock up to stop any bullets that make it through the "deer".

Some may ask "why?" and they have a point, but shooting stuff is fun and there's really not a whole lot else to do in northeastern VT

[86er]

Sound like a great idea and a close proximation that can be artificially created. Good Luck!

[Jason_W]

I have the gel mix and after tomorrow evening I'll have the ribs Then I'll just need the hide. I'm thinking I'll wait until next month for this project. We'll be having day time temps in the 40's and low 50's by then which will keep the gelatin from breaking down.

[horsesoldier03]

Hey, why not go get yourself a job as the KILLMAN at the local Slaughterhouse!

Sounds intresting, but at times redundant. Lots of studies like this have been conducted. My preference is to just go hunting. (Coyotes and Hogs are open year round) My 30-30 and .44 Mag have never failed me so I dont feel the need to experiment; but it is fun watching things blow up when you shoot them!

[Jason_W]

Hey, why not go get yourself a job as the KILLMAN at the local Slaughterhouse!

Sounds intresting, but at times redundant. Lots of studies like this have been conducted. My preference is to just go hunting. (Coyotes and Hogs are open year round) My 30-30 and .44 Mag have never failed me so I dont feel the need to experiment; but it is fun watching things blow up when you shoot them!

I somehow think the slaughterhouse would frown on me shooting them in the ribs at 100 yards with my deer guns, and then digging for the bullet

In my research, most of the testing that has been done so far has been in simulating combat and self defense situations, not much to simulate wild game. At least not that I've found.

I've been surprised a couple times by the results of my tests. Just a few hours ago I fired a newfangled lead-free 12 ga slug into my test material. It was designed to have the tip blow up and the base continue onward, but what happened for me was that it didn't expand at all and wound up coming to rest backwards in the material.

[Pete44ru]

[there's really not a whole lot else to do in northeastern VT ]

Well.......... Besides the mud wrestling, and chowing down at the Cow Palace in Derby, there's hellaciously decent hunting, up there in the Northeast Kingdom !

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[dr walker]

I think it is a great idea, I look forward to seeing your reports. Good job on the other ballistic test you have on your webpage. Cool stuff.

[BlueStateSaint]

Jason, I've also been to your site. Pretty good. I'd be interested in your thoughts as to why the .357 rounds didn't penetrate all that much, compared to the .35 Remington.

I'd also like to see a test or two on the .30-30 Hornady LeverEvolution rounds . . .

[Jason_W]

Jason, I've also been to your site. Pretty good. I'd be interested in your thoughts as to why the .357 rounds didn't penetrate all that much, compared to the .35 Remington.

I'd also like to see a test or two on the .30-30 Hornady LeverEvolution rounds . . .

Actually, the 200 grain soft point Remington was about on par with the Barnes 140 XP from the .357 mag carbine.

In general, I think it has to do with the fact that the .357 mag is still a pistol cartridge and the bullets are designed to open up faster and at lower velocities. The faster a bullet mushrooms, the less it's going to penetrate. That's just my theory, anyway.

I'd like to test the leverevolution 30-30, but I'll have to borrow someone's 30-30.

[Jason_W]

there's hellaciously decent hunting, up there in the Northeast Kingdom !

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I've always said that the deer in the NEK are a lot like women. A bit hard to come by, but when you do find one, It will probably be bigger than average