Range Report: Original Winchester Model 53 44-40

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Well it's been a couple weeks since I was at the range, so since I was driving right by it today, I figured I'd stop in and try out my 'new' rifle for which I'd done an even trade for an original Winchester Model 1886 .45-70, full octagon, half mag, made in 1904.

The 'new' rifle: An original Winchester Model 53 in caliber 44-40 (44 W.C.F.) made in 1928. Now I know that some of you might be thinking, 'he traded away an original Winchester '86 .45-70 for a Model 53!!!???' Yep! That's right ..... and I am very pleased with the trade. According to Madis, there were only 3,293 Model 53's made in caliber 44-40, which makes the Model 53 44-40 one of the rarest Winchester Model/caliber combinations. It is very seldom that you will find one for sale anywhere, including auctions such as GunBroker and RIA, or on the normal websites selling vintage Winchesters. I've wanted one of these for about 20 years. A friend of mine had one and I would casually mention, from time to time, that if he ever wanted to part with it, to let me know. Well, he finally did. The Model 53 44-40 was the final iteration of the Winchester Model 1892/92/53 line for the 44-40 caliber. Winchester did come out with one more iteration of the original Model 1892 action after this in the form of the Model 65, but the 44-40 caliber was not offered for that model. This is a very light, fast-handling little rifle. From the photos below, you can get an idea of its compactness and fast-handling ability ...... quite a change from the earlier original Winchester 1892 full octagon barrel version, itself a nice little rifle ....

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Load: 16 grains of 2400 under a 200 grain plain base cast bullet sized to .429, yielding an average chronographed velocity of 1,248 fps. (The exact same load in my older Model 1892 44-40 rifle, with a barrel 2" longer, gives 1,294 fps.).

100 yards:: Today, I wanted to get an idea of how accurate this load is in this little rifle, so I rested my rifle on my shooting bag, while sitting at a bench, and squeezed off 3 shots. The wall thickness of the barrel is so thin, that I figured I'd start with just a 3-shot group in case the point of impact changed as the barrel heated up. The result was a 3-shot group of 1 & 7/8" at 100 yards, photo of target below .....

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Then I got to wondering what 5 shots would do with no cooling and starting off with a pretty warm barrel already, so I set up a new target and fired another 5 rounds. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the 5 shot group was 2 & 5/8" at 100 yards. I was pleased because, first of all, the sight radius is pretty short for my old eyes with this 22" barrel. Secondly, that barrel was very hot when I finished, yet it did not seem to affect accuracy. A photo of this target is below ......

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If you place the two targets on top of each other, the bullseye bullet hole widens the group to be an 8-shot group of 2 & 7/8" at 100 yards, with 7 of the shots still within the original 2 & 5/8" group.

Offhand shooting: I finished off with 10 shots fired down range at the target, which was on an 8 1/2 x 11" piece of paper. I did not take my time to carefully aim and fire, but I did not fire the 10 shots fast either ..... moderately fast, but I know I could have done better if I'd taken my time for each shot and disciplined myself for better control. Still, 6 of the shots were within a 2 & 1/4" radius of the center of the bullseye, 8 shots were within a 4 & 3/4" radius, and only one shot was off the bottom of the paper .... a called low shot the moment I pulled the trigger. This is not great shooting, but for my first time offhand shooting with this little rifle, I am very happy with how easy it is to accurately shoot, if I will do my part. I think I will up the velocity for my next load .... I'd like something between 1,350 fps and 1,400 fps. I'll see what another grain of 2400 chronographs at.
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Another great report Kirk, thanks.
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All I can say is Wow!!!

Very nice!


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KirkD wrote:I did not take my time to carefully aim and fire, but I did not fire the 10 shots fast either ..... moderately fast, but I know I could have done better if I'd taken my time for each shot and disciplined myself for better control.
I'm glad someone else has that problem the first time they take a new goodie to the range... :wink:

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Nice trade, Kirk. Handy looking little rifle. Personally, I just never have warmed up to the button mags.
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Fine looking rifle Kirk and really good groups with it. Was that picture of you and the rifle taken at your place,is that the Conestoga river behind you ?
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Another excellent range report Kirk - thank you for sharing! :D
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JerryB wrote:Fine looking rifle Kirk and really good groups with it. Was that picture of you and the rifle taken at your place,is that the Conestoga river behind you ?
Jerry, that photo was taken in my backyard. The valley behind is where the Conestoga River flows. My alfalfa field where the groundhogs hide out and get fat is down by the river.
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Real pretty. A future calender candidate? 1886.
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KIrk, another great rifle and some fine shooting. Fine report you have filed also I might say.

BTW, you look as if you may have lost some weight from previous pics. :)
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Old Savage wrote:BTW, you look as if you may have lost some weight from previous pics. :)
Loosing weight for me is about as hard as swearing off old Winchesters. I love food and old Winchesters, so I eat like a horse and shoot. I've probably lost one or two pounds since spring has arrived .... my chiropractor, who is a health fanatic, recommended that I work off another 3 or 4 ....... I still haven't figured out how much a fellow burns off when he pulls the trigger and then levers in another round, but I'm thinking I'll have to do a lot of shooting this summer and fall if I'm going to burn up 4 pounds. :lol: Too bad that when a fellow shoots, he couldn't burn up fat at the same rate as he burns up powder .... but then maybe it would be too much work to shoot.
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Kirk i have the same gun as you #1510. My bore slugs at .4295 and i have been using a .430 200g plain base bullet (would really like to try .431). I also like 16g of 2400 but my chrono measures this load at approximately 1420fps ave. I wonder why the difference in velocity?
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Great range report and great shooting Kirk. That's a nifty rifle. I see why you were willing to make the trade that you did.
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94deluxe wrote:Kirk i have the same gun as you #1510. My bore slugs at .4295 and i have been using a .430 200g plain base bullet (would really like to try .431). I also like 16g of 2400 but my chrono measures this load at approximately 1420fps ave. I wonder why the difference in velocity?
I wouldn't be surprised if my groove diameter is similar to yours ..... I have not had the time to slug it yet. I think my groups would tighten up a bit if I went to a .430 bullet. You are getting some pretty good speed with 16 grains of 2400. I've found that the exact same load will give different velocities in different guns, when I chronograph them. I suspect it may be something to do with slight differences in groove diameter, as well as differences in the hardness of the bullet.
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I was surprised at the low velocity for Kirk, thinking of this as if it were a 44 Spl in a rifle.
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Don't be afraid to let that 53 unwind, Kirk. Up 'yer loads to that little gem's true potential. :mrgreen:
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Mike D. wrote:Don't be afraid to let that 53 unwind, Kirk. Up 'yer loads to that little gem's true potential. :mrgreen:
I'd like to develop a load that approximates Winchester's original H.V. load. However, my current cast bullets are soft and I don't think they will be hard enough to take the increased velocity. However, I will do some experimentation to see how high I can go before the groups start opening up.
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Anyone know of a 200g gas check bullet for 44-40? I tried some lyman 215g gc that were intended for 44mag but they are a little too long from crimp groove to point.
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Congrats on a very pretty and sweet shooting little rifle. :D :)
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Kirk,
You sure do have a rare one. Nice find! Even here, in the "Land of Winchesters", I have only seen two or three (in 30+years!)

Your 53 in 44-40 is better than money in the bank, but.......................... so was that '86.

Now that the "pleasantries" are over with................ Are you crazy??? an '86 for a 53?? I'm gonna pistol whip you!! :D :D

Thats OK, just take good care of it. After all, we are all just "temporary custodians" of these fine pieces of art. :wink: -------------- Sixgun
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Sixgun wrote:Now that the "pleasantries" are over with................ Are you crazy??? an '86 for a 53?? I'm gonna pistol whip you!! :D :D
Well, the way I look at it, I can get an original '86 .45-70 any day of the week ... there are several dozen on Gunbroker right now, but not so much as a single Model 53 in 44-40 caliber. There's something special about the Model 53 44-40. It marks the end of the line of models that Winchester chambered the 44-40 cartridge in, their first center fire cartridge (not counting modern commemoratives). It has a mystique (although that '86 did too).
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BEAUTIFUL rifle Kirk. That looks like cover material for next calender!!. Great report. thanks so much. It is always and enjoyable learning read on your posts. :mrgreen:
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Excellent range report with a rare beauty 8) :mrgreen: !
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Thats a mighty fine shoot'n iron ya got there....
excellent report too!
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Amazing KD, thats fine shooting! See what you mean by it's size, not much bigger than a 22.

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:mrgreen: That sure is a beauty! Congrats on the trade and Good Luck with it! Maybe you'll slap the clover out of a bunch of groundhogs for fun. Thanks, Tom
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I know this is a super old thread, but it's exactly the thread I needed to see.
I lucked into a 1930 Model 53 with the flaky receiver and button mag tube but otherwise excellent for its age condition in 44-40.
Gave $550 for it in January.
I stripped it down to its last screw, cleaned I'm guessing at least 70 years worth of grit and crud out of it, reassembled it (don't ask), lubricated as needed, cleaned up the bore and she runs like a Swiss watch.
I finally got her to the range, and not knowing a whole lot about the 44-40, I had some handloads that I got elsewhere and shot about 10 of the rounds.
She's got onions, that's for sure !
Nice little group at 30 yards, my typical hunting shot distance from my stands.
Pills moved out at an average of 1,300FPS.
I got bold with myself and calculated that if I put the bead directly on a 6" steel plate at 100 yards, she'll ring it, and I rang it 5 times in a row.
My vision keeps my shots with irons and peeps at 50 yards or under as I don't ever want to injure an animal, but this lady can shoot !
Anyway, the bullets were .429 JFPs.
I never slugged the barrel. Didn't even think about it.
I made a horrible assumption that 44-40 is 44-40.
I don't imagine that shooting .429JFPs in a barrel that slugs out at .427 is going to do any damage, or if it was going to, I would have found out the hard way.
I still don't know what the bore slugs out to, but as long as she's happy with those bullets, I'm going to load them.
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Glad you got it up and running again. Some pics would be really nice.
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Oldncrusty wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:16 pm Glad you got it up and running again. Some pics would be really nice.
I looked at how to post pictures and it wants a link of some sort.

If I could simply upload them, that would be awesome.
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Are you sending from a phone or PC? I upload mine straight from my phone. I might be able to show you how. I ain't no tech whiz though.
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I was at Basic Training, Fort Dix, the summer of '69 and talking to my family back home and my Dad mentioned that the local gun shop had taken in a Winchester 53 in .44-40, a solid frame. It also had a factory installed Lyman 21 receiver sight. I instructed him to take my 2nd Gen. Colt SAA in .45 down and trade it the next day, which he did. When I finally got home again the rifle was waiting. I had a ball with that little gun for several years, and then in the late '70s needed funds to take a cross country vacation and let it go to a friend and local collector who had lusted after it. Big mistake! I missed it badly. It was the slickest little rifle to carry in the woods - perfect balance and shot better than it had a right to. Anyway, around the late 1980s, while attending a local gun show, I was walking by a table just as the dealer pulled out a rifle to set on the table. I nearly fell over; it was an excellent 53 take-down in .44-40! I picked it up and immediately asked 'how much'? He studied me for a moment and took notice of the Winchester 71 Deluxe .348 I had slung on my shoulder and suggested a trade. I told him I wanted $800. for the 71 but would trade 'even up' for the 53. I don't know what he valued the 53 at, but he couldn't wait to finalize the deal with a handshake. I vowed then this one would never leave my possession. Famous last words! A few years later a collector who knew I had a hankering for an original Sharps 1959 three-band rifle acquired a beauty and waved it in front of me and suggested a trade. Again, passion 'of the moment' got the better of me and the little 53 got away from me. I've never had a chance to come across another. They are a rare and hard-to-find Winchester
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Oldncrusty wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:16 pm Glad you got it up and running again. Some pics would be really nice.
Hah !!! Figured it out.

I don't have any of the rifle itself, but it is the middle one.

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